GAME 5 Lafayette: Swift Acceptance

bac2therac

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Greene Rice has posted several times already this year about the stages of grief. This board has an even split in all 5 stages and I have quickly and for my own sanity moved from anger right over to acceptance. The reality is that this is a bad team and will not be making any kind of post season barring some miracle turnaround that no one could predict. They actually may be a worse team than any of the most pessimistic could have imagined. Rutgers just suffered a Quad 4 loss at home. A loss similar to Fred Hill's woeful team losing to Jackson State 71-70 on a last second 3. Easily one of the top worst losses ever at the RAC if not top 5. Rutgers has struggled against 4 sisters of the poor and one of the worst Power 6 schools you will find.

Okay opening game Lehigh, you can give them a pass, first game out of the gate, we see schools all over the country struggle, 2nd game and 3rd games were ugly as heck yet still won both by double digits and raised some red flags. 4th game bump in competition but still a terrible program and a purposeless game in which we saw the same game play out from the previous 3, RU no energy, just playing back and forth and the inability to make any stops when it counted. Now Game 5, what did we get...well more of the same, in fact the same movie from the previous 4 games played out, inferior team allowed to set pace and hold leads while RU shooting anemic for long stretches and upperclass starts once again go AWOL and ghost us. Meanwhile the coach seemingly set on his destination of clueless unable but more like unwilling to do anything different. I have seen enough in these 5 games.

Its an indictment on our star players and its an indictment on Coach Pikiell's game prep, in game coaching and recruiting. What we have witnessed shows you how tenuous keeping your program at a NCAA level is. Top 25 one day, bottom feeder the next, just ask Northwestern. Recruiting is everything and when you pile up the misses like Pike did and fail to replace 2 of the top 3 players from last season in a very lucrative 2021 portal well you get you are witnessing. The absolute no shows from a few players we all know you they are have torpedoed this teams chances at any success. The insistence of Pikiell to play a certain player when he can barely graze the rim and giving him major opportunity in a key stretch late was abominable. One has to wonder what exactly does this team do in practice. This easily is the worst looking and rudderless team since the Fred Hill years, even Eddie's team showed more teamwork. None of these players are on the same team, there is no leadership, there does not seem to be anyone who cares (maybe Paul) and the coaching staff has to be held responsible for this utter and spectacular collapse.

No Pikiell should not be fired and he wont be fired next year either. Those are really silly threads. He brought this program from the abyss to two incredible years and one official NCAA tourney, our first in 30 years and first win in 38. For that Pikiell is a hero, he got us to the Promised Land. Yet now he finds his program falling back down the mountain and when you have a fanbase who has raised their expectations, the criticism and heat is going to come when the program is performing at levels not seen since he first got here. College basketball is unforgiving. You are only as good as your last tournament year. Pikiell has the opportunity to build a sustainable program here unfortunately his failures at recruiting are now magnified where the only way he can stop the boulder from completely falling back down into the abyss is to land some multiple talented players going into the next 2 years. There certainly should be plenty of playing time to offer and there should be 2-3 players pushed out the door. This year is what it is. We can hope there are nights when this team clicks on all cylinders because I think they are capable of that and they might pull off some upsets at home but I have seen no evidence that this team is capable of even being a middle of the pack Big 10. Hope I am wrong and they can go hot over a stretch to build momentumn but the odds seem stacked against.

The scary is the upcoming schedule. RU could be in serious danger of losing these next 5 easily and skidding to a 6 game losing streak at 3-7. That is enough for me to accept this team for what is and for most fans sanity i would recommend to recalibrate your expectations to a low setting from here on out
 

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I wish some diehard RU fan had been assembling a video reel of all of Caleb's airballs throughout his career. I bet it would easily last a half hour. Just watching him chuck endlessly into the wind.
 
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Tonight was an Eddie Jordan level of terrible. Out rebounded by Lafayette?!
This team is Charmin soft. No heart at all.
 

rucoe89

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Greene Rice has posted several times already this year about the stages of grief. This board has an even split in all 5 stages and I have quickly and for my own sanity moved from anger right over to acceptance. The reality is that this is a bad team and will not be making any kind of post season barring some miracle turnaround that no one could predict. They actually may be a worse team than any of the most pessimistic could have imagined. Rutgers just suffered a Quad 4 loss at home. A loss similar to Fred Hill's woeful team losing to Jackson State 71-70 on a last second 3. Easily one of the top worst losses ever at the RAC if not top 5. Rutgers has struggled against 4 sisters of the poor and one of the worst Power 6 schools you will find.

Okay opening game Lehigh, you can give them a pass, first game out of the gate, we see schools all over the country struggle, 2nd game and 3rd games were ugly as heck yet still won both by double digits and raised some red flags. 4th game bump in competition but still a terrible program and a purposeless game in which we saw the same game play out from the previous 3, RU no energy, just playing back and forth and the inability to make any stops when it counted. Now Game 5, what did we get...well more of the same, in fact the same movie from the previous 4 games played out, inferior team allowed to set pace and hold leads while RU shooting anemic for long stretches and upperclass starts once again go AWOL and ghost us. Meanwhile the coach seemingly set on his destination of clueless unable but more like unwilling to do anything different. I have seen enough in these 5 games.

Its an indictment on our star players and its an indictment on Coach Pikiell's game prep, in game coaching and recruiting. What we have witnessed shows you how tenuous keeping your program at a NCAA level is. Top 25 one day, bottom feeder the next, just ask Northwestern. Recruiting is everything and when you pile up the misses like Pike did and fail to replace 2 of the top 3 players from last season in a very lucrative 2021 portal well you get you are witnessing. The absolute no shows from a few players we all know you they are have torpedoed this teams chances at any success. The insistence of Pikiell to play a certain player when he can barely graze the rim and giving him major opportunity in a key stretch late was abominable. One has to wonder what exactly does this team do in practice. This easily is the worst looking and rudderless team since the Fred Hill years, even Eddie's team showed more teamwork. None of these players are on the same team, there is no leadership, there does not seem to be anyone who cares (maybe Paul) and the coaching staff has to be held responsible for this utter and spectacular collapse.

No Pikiell should not be fired and he wont be fired next year either. Those are really silly threads. He brought this program from the abyss to two incredible years and one official NCAA tourney, our first in 30 years and first win in 38. For that Pikiell is a hero, he got us to the Promised Land. Yet now he finds his program falling back down the mountain and when you have a fanbase who has raised their expectations, the criticism and heat is going to come when the program is performing at levels not seen since he first got here. College basketball is unforgiving. You are only as good as your last tournament year. Pikiell has the opportunity to build a sustainable program here unfortunately his failures at recruiting are now magnified where the only way he can stop the boulder from completely falling back down into the abyss is to land some multiple talented players going into the next 2 years. There certainly should be plenty of playing time to offer and there should be 2-3 players pushed out the door. This year is what it is. We can hope there are nights when this team clicks on all cylinders because I think they are capable of that and they might pull off some upsets at home but I have seen no evidence that this team is capable of even being a middle of the pack Big 10. Hope I am wrong and they can go hot over a stretch to build momentumn but the odds seem stacked against.

The scary is the upcoming schedule. RU could be in serious danger of losing these next 5 easily and skidding to a 6 game losing streak at 3-7. That is enough for me to accept this team for what is and for most fans sanity i would recommend to recalibrate your expectations to a low setting from here on out
Its not a bad team. After 5 games we see what they really are - a putrid team. Forget about being close to a B1G team, they are not even NEC or Patriot level. Damning indictment of players and coaches. They are going to have to work overtime to get fans back behind them. These performances over the last 5 games are now inexcusable despite the excuses they are making for themselves.
 
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FIJI'83

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Bac, not only does it get worse as this year’s schedule progresses in difficulty, but next year has signs of being downright nightmarish … and even more horrifying if you factor whatever underclass talent we have exits though the portal. The stench emanating from such a “hypothetical“ program collapse will make recruiting talent near impossible. Please give me something to be positive about.
 

RUJMM78

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The preseason hype gave fans a false perception of this team.There was talk about how well the team shoots in practice and the two scrimmages against Villanova and Uconn only increased fan excitement as seen by the sell out games announced before the season started.Reality has now set in after five games against mediocre opponents.The offense has been abysmal and the defense and rebounding aren't close to last years performance.Just looking at the faces of the players indicates something is fundamentally wrong.It starts with mediocre recruiting and compounded with very little evidence of player development.The coaching staff has lots of problems to overcome with the season just starting and the tougher opponents yet to be played.Talk of a NCAA bid has quickly become a wishful dream .
 

bac2therac

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You would think if we are bad half court offense we would try our best to get out in transition. Our guys minus Cliff just don’t want to get out and run.


riddle me this...how many points off turnovers did we score

Lafayatte had 23 FREAKIN TURNOVERS....23!!!!!!!!

I dont recall one fast break conversion...

insanity vs a Patriot League school...what is going on with the coaching
 

IL Lusciato

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Its not a bad team. After 5 games we see what they really are - a putrid team. Forget about being close to a B1G team, they are not even NEC or Patriot level. Damning indictment of players and coaches. They are going to have to work overtime to get fans back behind them. These performances over the last 5 games are now inexcusable despite the excuses they are making for themselves.

Yeah. Really hard team to root for. Unlike the football team currently, who doesn't have all the talent but plays tough as hell. This team plays with absolutely no heart, effort, hustle, or pride.
 

RW90

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riddle me this...how many points off turnovers did we score

Lafayatte had 23 FREAKIN TURNOVERS....23!!!!!!!!

I dont recall one fast break conversion...

insanity vs a Patriot League school...what is going on with the coaching
The lead breakout pass was there multiple times but I think McConnell and Paul missed them.
 

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Nor mentioned or overlooked was Ron Harper. He wasn’t himself. He was exhausted and emotionless. If I didn’t know any better he was sick, as if he had a fever. He certainly was not himself.

coach says he is nursing a bad back - not good!
 

RUsojo

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You would think if we are bad half court offense we would try our best to get out in transition. Our guys minus Cliff just don’t want to get out and run.
We’re the least athletic back court in high major basketball were not going to do anything in transition.

The last time we were dynamic in transition was last year in our first 9 games with JY and Mathis starting and Geo and McConnell injured.
 
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Nor mentioned or overlooked was Ron Harper. He wasn’t himself. He was exhausted and emotionless. If I didn’t know any better he was sick, as if he had a fever. He certainly was not himself.
A former player im friends with from texted me saying exactly that. I was flipping back and forth between another game so i didnt notice it as much
 

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If Geo and Ron are going to go out with no tournament (which looks like the obvious scenario), just go out with pride, be good leaders to the younger guys.. leave it all on the court, maybe play well enough to have an upset or two.

Make us remember why we loved this team these past few years.
 

Scarlet Blind_rivals

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Step 1 No more 3pt attempts til you hit a 2pt attempt first and get into a shooting rhythm.

Step 2 Get Geo off the ball, get Paul off the ball, get Caleb off the ball, get RHJ off the ball, even though he led the team in assists tonight, I don't care if you start Jalen Miller, backup Logan Stephens or even Aiden Terry, the walkon freshman PGs. I'm done with combo guards and wings pretending to play PT guard system running this team. Ill take the lumps with those two or three as true point guards over what has happened the first 5 games.

Step 3 time to get more height at the 4s and 5s, no more Ron at 4. Cliff 6'11, Reiber 6'10, Nathan 6'11 at 5, Agee 6'8, Jones 6'8, Palmquist 6'8 at the 4. for 80 minutes

Step 4, let Geo, Caleb, RHJ, Hyatt, Paul, Mawot battle for 80 minutes at 2s-3s.

Every player is pretty broken outside of Cliff. This is rock bottom. Change needs to be made and now. Scrap everything and build these players confidence little by little back up and salvage it before January or it will only get worse, can't status quo this to death and magically get better.
 

BigEastPhil

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Some observations:

- No one on this team is having fun. No one is smiling on the court as we were used to from prior teams.

- The BB IQ on this team has a lot to be desired. The volume of horrible shot selections by Caleb; by Hyatt; by Mag; by Jones was scary.

- Pike gives a lot of latitude to his players but the continuance to have them keep hoisting 3's instead of the mid range game or throwing it down low to Cliff was another bad re run with everyone praying for a different ending.

- Had Geo not gotten hurt, we would have won as minutes towards end of game with some awful shots by Mag and by Caleb would not have occurred.

- It's a very tough team to root for. There's not a lot to like.

- Can we free Jalen Miller just so we can get a glimpse....pretty please....

- It appears there are too many different agenda's on this team......
 

NewJerseyHawk

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Basketball is relatively simple IF, you actually highlight what a player does well and mask what a player doesn't do well....pike actually did that in the 1st 5 years, where you could hide a players deficiencies and make a roster work.

This year is almost as if Pike has been infected by Greg Schiano in belief that you can blatantly insult fans intelligence and sell it as coaching.

Here is what should happen, irregardless of how long you have been at RU or not....

Point guard Baker
Back up PG Miller

Shooting guard Jaden Jones
Back up 2 G.....Harper

Small forward....Aundre Hyatt
Back up small forward Paul Mulcahy /Caleb McConnell

Other forward- Harper Jr
Back up Forward Mawot Mag
Back up Power 4 -Agee

Center-Cliff Omoyuri
Back up Center Agee- Reiber

TBD Caleb McConnell

What Pike is trying to do is sell or that he overpromised Mulcahy that he would play PG.....there is literally nothing about Mulcahy that is a point guard, except his willingness to pass the ball....just because you are a willing passer, does not make you a point guard.....

Mulcahy is a playmaker, not a point guard......do not confuse what he can do on the wing as a shooter from 3 and then off the dribble towards the paint to create passing lanes, with being a PG.

The single biggest problem is this.

You're best and 2nd best players on the perimeter are Jalen Miller at PG and Jaden Jones as SG.

Playing Mawot Mag, Paul Mulcahy and Caleb McConnell, who are baseline players that can drive and hit corner shots as arc/perimeter players is a fireable offense for any coach..

The fix is to burn the redshirt of Jalen Miller....play him and Jaden Jones together for 18 to 22 minutes a game and move on to give Geo some help...

You cannot hide Jalen Miller and suppress Jaden Jones any longer....they're better perimeter guards that Caleb and Paul.....that doesn't mean they may be better overall players today, but you cannot play this many players out of position and expect results better than the kids who were actually recruited to play those spots..

Why does all of this matter??

When you play kids out of position, the players see it....they're not dumb....you are seeing kids placed in position to fail and others not given any chance to succeed at their best position.

Baker 16 PG minutes
Miller 12 PG minutes
Jaden Jones 12 PG minutes

Jones 16 SG minutes
Baker 14 SG minutes

Hyatt 24 SF minutes
Harper 6 SF minutes
Mulcahy 10 SF minutes

Harper 22 PF minutes
Mag 8 PF minutes
Agee 10 PF minutes

Cliff 26 C minutes
Agee 8 C minutes
Reibee 6 C minutes

The only chance to get up tempo shots in transition is to get the best players who are used to handling the ball in transition to do so.....that's Baker, Miller, Jones....

It is not THIS BAD.....if you Crack someone's feelings over, so be it....there is no chance to correct this unless Miller plays significant minutes, learns from his mistakes and can push the ball and make plays outside the 3 point line....you either let him learn now and get this fixed in a couple of weeks or stick with what's not working and go 6-14 in the B1G and finish under .500....
 

Greene Rice FIG

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This isn’t about X and Os. I think it is pretty simple. The first step to winning is wanting to win. A few of our more experienced players are just going through the motions. If that wasn’t obvious in the 1st 4 games it has to be now.

the other problem is conditioning and strength for a bunch of our players. It is too late to fix that. Games are won and lost in the off-season.
 

Greene Rice FIG

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If this was NBA2K22 you play Jaden Jones and Jalen because of their ratings.

This isn’t NBA2K22. Pike has turned the program around because he knows what he is doing.

I have zero evidence to support Pikiell for making a mistake with Jones or even Hyatts PT.
 
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Scarlet Blind_rivals

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Let me get this straight and have read it right, Pike's plan for 2021-22 from Game 1 this season was to redshirt Jalen Miller, our only true PG a much needed skill set. How the F can Pike redshirt the lone guy on the roster that brings something completely different to the court than the other 12 players on scholarship. If we still had a JY on roster, redshirting Jalen makes sense, but I don't think we've recruited a true point guard since Myles Mack. Corey, Geo and JY are more combo guard than true point. Myles Mack averaged 26 minutes and started 14 games his freshman year and averaged 9.8 2ast 2reb his fr. Year and only got getter the next 3 years. I get Myles was a top 100 and Jalen is more top 200, but if he can provide that much needed skill set we don't have from the 11 players that have played, Pike just wasted 1/6th of the season and probably 2 bad losses figuring that out, huge and costly mistake on Pike's part in my estimation.
 
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NewJerseyHawk

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It really is bizarre because it has somehow now infected both sports.....Schiano has a 4 star and young QB who can make throws, escape from a pass rush and will make mistakes, but refuses to play him.....in a full rebuild......yes, RU football is 5-6, but you're 5-6 because of the complete default of a couple of teams on your schedule, giving you the games.....there is no semblance of an offense....nothing looks like it should, whatsoever.

With Pike, you have either sheer incompetence or just act as I fans don't watch common sense basketball.....if Jaden Jones gives up a backdoor layup, that's part of the learning process.....you can correct that by coaching and learning......if he goes 0-4 from 3, I can love with that result.....I watched RHJ start 2-28 from 3 in his frosh season in 2018 and yeah, some fans whined and asked if he was a good shooter.....common sense says yes, of course, but he was a freshman, along with Mathis, Caleb and others, learning on trial by fire.....no one seemed to mind because it was a full rebuild.

When we chucked up a bunch of threes and lost at Fordham, lost at Seton Hall in 2018, missing a bunch of 3s, you at least let players play through the airballs and shot selection......you learn by playing, not sitting..........now suddenly, your not going to allow Jalen Miller & Jaden Jones to play, fail, learn and develop, because you want to play Mag, Caleb and Paul on the perimeter??......play them where they belong, not outside the arc, near the top of the key.....

If you are watching football and now basketball, it is one of the most baffling things I would never say, you almost have to be insane to try and explain it.........you get to the redzone, down 21-0 vs Penn State, in a game you have no chance of winning, because of a pass play and the next set of plays you run a reverse halfback pass, asking Johnny Langan, who is not a good passer, to throw a pass.....???....if you just gave Wimsatt the ball and let him throw it 4 times, thats a teachable moment......so what if he throws a pick, he can learn and understand that by playing.....

In the final minutes vs not just Lafayette, but NJIT, Lehigh, Merrimack......, you are struggling to score and struggle to give Jaden Jones and Jalen Miller an overdue opportunity......Jaden finally gets on,, down 3 points and you are in the bonus.....any foul against you, you walk to the FT line.....Jones instincts say drive baseline,, because they can't guard you without fouling.....they foul you, you make 2 FTs and then you don't go to the FT line the rest of the way....

Sometimes the result of a win or loss can mask poor short and long term decision-making.....Right now, I don't have clue of what RU football coaches are doing on offense or what the plan of development is for Wimsatt at QB......and Pike seemingly can't be asked "what is the plan of development for Jaden Jones and Jalen Miller".........who are clearly your best options of perimeter offensive and defensive players.....let Miller learn and play....let him pressure an inferior guard from NJIT, Lehigh or Lafayette and do the work he can on defense.......bring some energy........forget redshirting him, let him play..........Let Jaden Jones drive and create and if he's fouled, let him shoot FTs.....

There's one thing in losing, if you have a logical long term goal in mind.....the goal is to get better for later that season or the following year.....right now, I can't find either........your not getting better now and not getting players better who can improve for later for down the road.....
 
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kcg88

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Hilarious that anybody thinks Jalen Miller is some kind of answer. No other power conference teams wanted him, just like none wanted Reiber, Palmquist, Agee, or McConnell. What makes you think Miller is going to look any better than those guys? Because Pikiell said good things about him? I think we've learned to ignore all that crap by now.
 

RU84

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Basketball is relatively simple IF, you actually highlight what a player does well and mask what a player doesn't do well....pike actually did that in the 1st 5 years, where you could hide a players deficiencies and make a roster work.

This year is almost as if Pike has been infected by Greg Schiano in belief that you can blatantly insult fans intelligence and sell it as coaching.

Here is what should happen, irregardless of how long you have been at RU or not....

Point guard Baker
Back up PG Miller

Shooting guard Jaden Jones
Back up 2 G.....Harper

Small forward....Aundre Hyatt
Back up small forward Paul Mulcahy /Caleb McConnell

Other forward- Harper Jr
Back up Forward Mawot Mag
Back up Power 4 -Agee

Center-Cliff Omoyuri
Back up Center Agee- Reiber

TBD Caleb McConnell

What Pike is trying to do is sell or that he overpromised Mulcahy that he would play PG.....there is literally nothing about Mulcahy that is a point guard, except his willingness to pass the ball....just because you are a willing passer, does not make you a point guard.....

Mulcahy is a playmaker, not a point guard......do not confuse what he can do on the wing as a shooter from 3 and then off the dribble towards the paint to create passing lanes, with being a PG.

The single biggest problem is this.

You're best and 2nd best players on the perimeter are Jalen Miller at PG and Jaden Jones as SG.

Playing Mawot Mag, Paul Mulcahy and Caleb McConnell, who are baseline players that can drive and hit corner shots as arc/perimeter players is a fireable offense for any coach..

The fix is to burn the redshirt of Jalen Miller....play him and Jaden Jones together for 18 to 22 minutes a game and move on to give Geo some help...

You cannot hide Jalen Miller and suppress Jaden Jones any longer....they're better perimeter guards that Caleb and Paul.....that doesn't mean they may be better overall players today, but you cannot play this many players out of position and expect results better than the kids who were actually recruited to play those spots..

Why does all of this matter??

When you play kids out of position, the players see it....they're not dumb....you are seeing kids placed in position to fail and others not given any chance to succeed at their best position.

Baker 16 PG minutes
Miller 12 PG minutes
Jaden Jones 12 PG minutes

Jones 16 SG minutes
Baker 14 SG minutes

Hyatt 24 SF minutes
Harper 6 SF minutes
Mulcahy 10 SF minutes

Harper 22 PF minutes
Mag 8 PF minutes
Agee 10 PF minutes

Cliff 26 C minutes
Agee 8 C minutes
Reibee 6 C minutes

The only chance to get up tempo shots in transition is to get the best players who are used to handling the ball in transition to do so.....that's Baker, Miller, Jones....

It is not THIS BAD.....if you Crack someone's feelings over, so be it....there is no chance to correct this unless Miller plays significant minutes, learns from his mistakes and can push the ball and make plays outside the 3 point line....you either let him learn now and get this fixed in a couple of weeks or stick with what's not working and go 6-14 in the B1G and finish under .500....
 

kcg88

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Here's where I hold the coaching staff responsible: it seems to me that they believe they're smarter than everyone else when it comes to recruiting under the radar guys and/or developing them. This year is exposing that. Which player on the roster can do something this year that they could not do as a freshman? Who has expanded their game?

Myles and Eugene are looking much more like the exception. And in Eugene's case my understanding is he took much of it upon himself to get better.

Belief in yourself is great. Arrogance is not.
 

RU84

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It really is bizarre because it has somehow now infected both sports.....Schiano has a 4 star and young QB who can make throws, escape from a pass rush and will make mistakes, but refuses to play him.....in a full rebuild......yes, RU football is 5-6, but you're 5-6 because of the complete default of a couple of teams on your schedule, giving you the games.....there is no semblance of an offense....nothing looks like it should, whatsoever.

With Pike, you have either sheer incompetence or just act as I fans don't watch common sense basketball.....if Jaden Jones gives up a backdoor layup, that's part of the learning process.....you can correct that by coaching and learning......if he goes 0-4 from 3, I can love with that result.....I watched RHJ start 2-28 from 3 in his frosh season in 2018 and yeah, some fans whined and asked if he was a good shooter.....common sense says yes, of course, but he was a freshman, along with Mathis, Caleb and others, learning on trial by fire.....no one seemed to mind because it was a full rebuild.

When we chucked up a bunch of threes and lost at Fordham, lost at Seton Hall in 2018, missing a bunch of 3s, you at least let players play through the airballs and shot selection......you learn by playing, not sitting..........now suddenly, your not going to allow Jalen Miller & Jaden Jones to play, fail, learn and develop, because you want to play Mag, Caleb and Paul on the perimeter??......play them where they belong, not outside the arc, near the top of the key.....

If you are watching football and now basketball, it is one of the most baffling things I would never say, you almost have to be insane to try and explain it.........you get to the redzone, down 21-0 vs Penn State, in a game you have no chance of winning, because of a pass play and the next set of plays you run a reverse halfback pass, asking Johnny Langan, who is not a good passer, to throw a pass.....???....if you just gave Wimsatt the ball and let him throw it 4 times, thats a teachable moment......so what if he throws a pick, he can learn and understand that by playing.....

In the final minutes vs not just Lafayette, but NJIT, Lehigh, Merrimack......, you are struggling to score and struggle to give Jaden Jones and Jalen Miller an overdue opportunity......Jaden finally gets on,, down 3 points and you are in the bonus.....any foul against you, you walk to the FT line.....Jones instincts say drive baseline,, because they can't guard you without fouling.....they foul you, you make 2 FTs and then you don't go to the FT line the rest of the way....

Sometimes the result of a win or loss can mask poor short and long term decision-making.....Right now, I don't have clue of what RU football coaches are doing on offense or what the plan of development is for Wimsatt at QB......and Pike seemingly can't be asked "what is the plan of development for Jaden Jones and Jalen Miller".........who are clearly your best options of perimeter offensive and defensive players.....let Miller learn and play....let him pressure an inferior guard from NJIT, Lehigh or Lafayette and do the work he can on defense.......bring some energy........forget redshirting him, let him play..........Let Jaden Jones drive and create and if he's fouled, let him shoot FTs.....

There's one thing in losing, if you have a logical long term goal in mind.....the goal is to get better for later that season or the following year.....right now, I can't find either........your not getting better now and not getting players better who can improve for later for down the road.....
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Basketball is relatively simple IF, you actually highlight what a player does well and mask what a player doesn't do well....pike actually did that in the 1st 5 years, where you could hide a players deficiencies and make a roster work.

This year is almost as if Pike has been infected by Greg Schiano in belief that you can blatantly insult fans intelligence and sell it as coaching.

Here is what should happen, irregardless of how long you have been at RU or not....

Point guard Baker
Back up PG Miller

Shooting guard Jaden Jones
Back up 2 G.....Harper

Small forward....Aundre Hyatt
Back up small forward Paul Mulcahy /Caleb McConnell

Other forward- Harper Jr
Back up Forward Mawot Mag
Back up Power 4 -Agee

Center-Cliff Omoyuri
Back up Center Agee- Reiber

TBD Caleb McConnell

What Pike is trying to do is sell or that he overpromised Mulcahy that he would play PG.....there is literally nothing about Mulcahy that is a point guard, except his willingness to pass the ball....just because you are a willing passer, does not make you a point guard.....

Mulcahy is a playmaker, not a point guard......do not confuse what he can do on the wing as a shooter from 3 and then off the dribble towards the paint to create passing lanes, with being a PG.

The single biggest problem is this.

You're best and 2nd best players on the perimeter are Jalen Miller at PG and Jaden Jones as SG.

Playing Mawot Mag, Paul Mulcahy and Caleb McConnell, who are baseline players that can drive and hit corner shots as arc/perimeter players is a fireable offense for any coach..

The fix is to burn the redshirt of Jalen Miller....play him and Jaden Jones together for 18 to 22 minutes a game and move on to give Geo some help...

You cannot hide Jalen Miller and suppress Jaden Jones any longer....they're better perimeter guards that Caleb and Paul.....that doesn't mean they may be better overall players today, but you cannot play this many players out of position and expect results better than the kids who were actually recruited to play those spots..

Why does all of this matter??

When you play kids out of position, the players see it....they're not dumb....you are seeing kids placed in position to fail and others not given any chance to succeed at their best position.

Baker 16 PG minutes
Miller 12 PG minutes
Jaden Jones 12 PG minutes

Jones 16 SG minutes
Baker 14 SG minutes

Hyatt 24 SF minutes
Harper 6 SF minutes
Mulcahy 10 SF minutes

Harper 22 PF minutes
Mag 8 PF minutes
Agee 10 PF minutes

Cliff 26 C minutes
Agee 8 C minutes
Reibee 6 C minutes

The only chance to get up tempo shots in transition is to get the best players who are used to handling the ball in transition to do so.....that's Baker, Miller, Jones....

It is not THIS BAD.....if you Crack someone's feelings over, so be it....there is no chance to correct this unless Miller plays significant minutes, learns from his mistakes and can push the ball and make plays outside the 3 point line....you either let him learn now and get this fixed in a couple of weeks or stick with what's not working and go 6-14 in the B1G and finish under .500....
spot on
 

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There is no use for this skill set on the floor in 2021-22? and yes I know it's a mix tape and highlights but tell me one player who can do that from our guards and wings.




Look at what Peter Kiss is doing at Bryant and then remember what he looked like here.

I mean if you want to play him over McConnell then fine. Just don't expect much more.