Frost Culture

[Huskerz99]

First time poster, think Frost will get it done but he has a lot to prove at this point. I worry about his culture the most right now. You can say it’s Riley’s guys all you want, but a quote that sticks out it me is

“You are either coaching it or allowing it to happen”. At the end of the day it’s on Frost to get his assistants to correct these mistakes. You are judged by wins and losses and right now it’s not good.

 

[uberism1111]

The freshman and sophomores producing are playing hard, very hard. Wandale wasn't close to 100% yesterday and lit it up on the field. There are juniors and seniors that have not been able to flip the switch with the mental side of the game. It's why graduation will be a good thing for the program.

I started a thread a couple of weeks ago saying that the mental side of the program is the biggest challenge that Frost will have for this program. There is no specific timeline for when the mental side is fixed. It's always the biggest challenge for a coach that has taken over a broken program.

I believe that Frost is recruiting guys with the right mental state that will come in and work hard and play hard. You can see it from the freshman. The filler class I give him a pass on since it's impossible to put together a class anymore when hired for a new job because of the Dec. signing period.

 

[jlb321_rivals110621]

the next 2 years more and more of the roster will be Frost guys ... so these excuses are going to rapidly expire and this staff is going to own the results devoid of the Mile Riley "safe space"

I hope they begin to figure out this power 5 coaching thing pretty soon

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

the next 2 years more and more of the roster will be Frost guys ... so these excuses are going to rapidly expire and this staff is going to own the results devoid of the Mile Riley "safe space"

Agree

 

[HuskerLLM]

I'm not excusing anything but the number of coaches (assistants) these upper classmen have been through and had to build relationships with is insane...take the Davis twins only as an example:. Recruited by Kaz, then Hank Hughes, Parella for two years, Dawson and now Tuioti

DBs not any better...Warren in recruitment, Stewart, Banker for a season, Elliott for a Spring, Booker, D Williams, and Fisher

Is it any wonder player development on D has been so bad...zero consistency and getting taught something different in a different manner nearly every year

 

[c3o]

the next 2 years more and more of the roster will be Frost guys ... so these excuses are going to rapidly expire and this staff is going to own the results devoid of the Mile Riley "safe space"

those excuses are trash. Scott owns 100% of this. I appreciate optimism but the reality is our team is a mess and an excuse doesn’t cut it.

 

[RedMyMind]

"There's still some guys on our team that aren't bought all the way in on our mentality that Coach Frost is wanting our team to have for the years to come," Robinson said. "We have to start that now. We can't just wait for that to come. Just getting that mentality and trying to preach that to the other guys. Even though I'm a freshman, I'm also trying to get in the older guys' heads."

 

[The_Guy_Behind_The_Guy_Behind_The_Guy]

"There's still some guys on our team that aren't bought all the way in on our mentality that Coach Frost is wanting our team to have for the years to come," Robinson said. "We have to start that now. We can't just wait for that to come. Just getting that mentality and trying to preach that to the other guys. Even though I'm a freshman, I'm also trying to get in the older guys' heads."

I saw this interview and it’s very telling as to what is going on.

There is an old saying: “You can lead a donkey to water but you can’t make a jackass drink”.

The players that haven’t completely bought in or are not doing the right things must find it in themselves to change. Coaches and teammates can only talk, tell, and support them so much.

 

[Frydaze]

I saw this interview and it’s very telling as to what is going on.

There is an old saying: “You can lead a donkey to water but you can’t make a jackass drink”.

The players that haven’t completely bought in or are not doing the right things must find it in themselves to change. Coaches and teammates can only talk, tell, and support them so much.

And with that said you seem to put 100% of the blame on these supposed disgruntled players. Sorry dude, that's giving everyone a pass that's drawing a salary- and many big ones at that-- as a coach. Very dangerous game you play when you hold the coaches to little accountability.

 

[uberism1111]

I think the first hard choice Frost will have to make is benching some seniors and some juniors for youth. I can tell he already wants to do it but it is not easy to actually do it. Now that there are only 4 games left we might see some of that benching in Nov.

 

[Huskerz99]

Are the coaches allowing it or are they actually coaching it? Attitude reflects leadership.

 

[Sodakred]

And with that said you seem to put 100% of the blame on these supposed disgruntled players. Sorry dude, that's giving everyone a pass that's drawing a salary- and many big ones at that-- as a coach. Very dangerous game you play when you hold the coaches to little accountability.

Maybe he really believes the coaches are all doing a great job “in all phases” just like Callahan did to the bitter end. Yesterday was terrible all the way through his press conference.

 

[RedMyMind]

Are the coaches allowing it or are they actually coaching it? Attitude reflects leadership.

the program is in recovery mode ala pneumonia. The worst is over but it is just gonna take time to get rid of the illness.

 

[CatColumbia]

Welcome OP.

My worry is that we’re trending backwards. Last year we started 0-6 and it was all up from there, winning 4-2. This year we started 4-2, which is ok but have lost the last 2. My fear is that we are trending towards the 0-6 start that we had last year when it should be the opposite. Our guys are beat up and look defeated. Frost and company have had these guys since January ‘18, that’s enough time to at least have these guys guys bought into the culture, and I don’t see that. I’d say the Colorado and Indiana loss are purely on this staff. We got out coached, plain and simple. We’re not where I thought we’d be and it’s alarming .

 

[CDMXHusker]

Welcome OP.

My worry is that we’re trending backwards. Last year we started 0-6 and it was all up from there, winning 4-2. This year we started 4-2, which is ok but have lost the last 2. My fear is that we are trending towards the 0-6 start that we had last year when it should be the opposite. Our guys are beat up and look defeated. Frost and company have had these guys since January ‘18, that’s enough time to at least have these guys guys bought into the culture, and I don’t see that. I’d say the Colorado and Indiana loss are purely on this staff. We got out coached, plain and simple. We’re not where I thought we’d be and it’s alarming .

Anybody not bought in and/or giving effort should be sitting.

 

[dakotared]

Attitude reflects leadership. Why would players change their ways if it doesn't affect their playing time. Until there is real consequences for their supposed behavior expect more of the same. We seem to be getting worse instead of better. It's easy to point to a culture problem when things are going poorly. How would anyone be able to measure or prove otherwise without being in the locker room. I think it is more than culture and the coaches need to look in the mirror before throwing their players under the bus.

 

[dand84]

First time poster, think Frost will get it done but he has a lot to prove at this point. I worry about his culture the most right now. You can say it’s Riley’s guys all you want, but a quote that sticks out it me is

“You are either coaching it or allowing it to happen”. At the end of the day it’s on Frost to get his assistants to correct these mistakes. You are judged by wins and losses and right now it’s not good.

I think there is misunderstanding about what Frost means by culture. He has alluded to it the last few press confs. I bet you can't find any of the players on the team that don't want to win or don't want to be better.

You can coach and teach kids to do X and they can say, yah coach, I'll do X or I'm working on X. They might even do it in practice situations. But come game day it all goes out the window. Until it is ingrained into the players and the team leaders so that it is done without thinking, it often fails. It isn't internalized. Only when everyone is doing the right thing "just because" do you have the culture you want.

 

[hedonistimpulse]

This thread is dripping with cliches. Proper preparation prevents poor performance...

That note aside, my concern right now is that Daniels had to call out his teammates prior to Saturday's game. My concern isn't that Daniels did that, though, it's what captains do, my concern is that the head coach (and presumably the other coaches) noticed that the team seemed unfocused and did nothing.

 

[cecilB]

I think Frosty’s comments and those of some of the players are troubling. Sure sounds like he’s list a locker room. It’s difficult to simply pass this off on predecessors.

I hope I am wrong, but very unusual quotes- or at least things one hardly ever hears in other pressers

 

[Huskerdoodledoo]

Are the coaches allowing it or are they actually coaching it? Attitude reflects leadership.

While Frost has brought in some talent, making 400+ offers per year does not bring in a cohesive clubhouse. He did not have a lot of choice as the cupboard was a little bare. You end up getting a few head cases and disruptive personalities when you are not closely vetting your players and chasing players by ratings. Minnesota was offering in shotgun style like that and now their numbers have come down as they now are having some success. Have some faith, it takes time to build the pipeline and get the players you really want.

 

[OHPAHusker]

I'm not excusing anything but the number of coaches (assistants) these upper classmen have been through and had to build relationships with is insane...take the Davis twins only as an example:. Recruited by Kaz, then Hank Hughes, Parella for two years, Dawson and now Tuioti

DBs not any better...Warren in recruitment, Stewart, Banker for a season, Elliott for a Spring, Booker, D Williams, and Fisher

Is it any wonder player development on D has been so bad...zero consistency and getting taught something different in a different manner nearly every year

This is why I don't want Frost to go on a firing binge or even to fire anybody. We have had a revolving door of coaches, and it shows in the older guys. Everybody cites Cally and Cosgrove but forgets that Smiling Mike "got tough" and blew up a 20+ year friendship to fire Banker over the phone and hire Bob Debacle. Quick firings to hire trendy assistant coaches usually doesn't work.

Those of us are middle-aged and older remember the late 80's and early 90's when many of us (including me) were 100% certain that Darlington and McBride had to go. It was OBVIOUS they didn't know what they were doing. Getting torched year after year by FSU, Miami, UCLA, Washington, Colorado, even GaTech for chirssakes. Good thing TO didn't care what we thought.

 

[HuskerLLM]

This is why I don't want Frost to go on a firing binge or even to fire anybody. We have had a revolving door of coaches, and it shows in the older guys. Everybody cites Cally and Cosgrove but forgets that Smiling Mike "got tough" and blew up a 20+ year friendship to fire Banker over the phone and hire Bob Debacle. Quick firings to hire trendy assistant coaches usually doesn't work.

Those of us are middle-aged and older remember the late 80's and early 90's when many of us (including me) were 100% certain that Darlington and McBride had to go. It was OBVIOUS they didn't know what they were doing. Getting torched year after year by FSU, Miami, UCLA, Washington, Colorado, even GaTech for chirssakes. Good thing TO didn't care what we thought.

Minor correction...it was NOT Riley's idea to fire Banker, it was Eichorst and Devaney forcing the move

 

[OHPAHusker]

Minor correction...it was NOT Riley's idea to fire Banker, it was Eichorst and Devaney forcing the move

That does ring a bell. Micromanagement of the HC does not help.

 

[Harry Caray]

Those of us are middle-aged and older remember the late 80's and early 90's when many of us (including me) were 100% certain that Darlington and McBride had to go. It was OBVIOUS they didn't know what they were doing. Getting torched year after year by FSU, Miami, UCLA, Washington, Colorado, even GaTech for chirssakes. Good thing TO didn't care what we thought.

McBride's defense got torched maybe once a year on average, usually by a loaded team like Miami or FSU. So does Saban, so did Stoops, etc.

Chinander's defense gets torched by any offense with a pulse. I don't mind giving him one more year, but I can already hear the excuses next year - which will be that we are young and replacing half of our starters.

 

[Sinomatic]

In thinking the one guy who seemed to buy in from the old staff for sure was Ozigbo. That guy turned a huge corner with this staff.

I also think we have thick skulls running around out there. Blocks in the back, defender not turning around to play the ball while covering a receiver.

I can understand getting straight up beat by athleticism but having athletes out there playing football instead of football players also being athletes has been a real shame.

 

[Wyldcard]

I think there is misunderstanding about what Frost means by culture. He has alluded to it the last few press confs. I bet you can't find any of the players on the team that don't want to win or don't want to be better.

You can coach and teach kids to do X and they can say, yah coach, I'll do X or I'm working on X. They might even do it in practice situations. But come game day it all goes out the window. Until it is ingrained into the players and the team leaders so that it is done without thinking, it often fails. It isn't internalized. Only when everyone is doing the right thing "just because" do you have the culture you want.

The Unity Council back in place is what is desperately needed, but unfortunately we don't have the leadership and culture to chair it right now.

 

[catch54]

In thinking the one guy who seemed to buy in from the old staff for sure was Ozigbo. That guy turned a huge corner with this staff.

I also think we have thick skulls running around out there. Blocks in the back, defender not turning around to play the ball while covering a receiver.

I can understand getting straight up beat by athleticism but having athletes out there playing football instead of football players also being athletes has been a real shame.

A defender turning around is going to lose his speed and balance.

 

[timnsun]

A defender turning around is going to lose his speed and balance.

Watch the receiver’s eyes, look back when he adjusts his gaze... that way you are playing the ball.

Or don’t, and run through the receiver. At least you were fast and on balance when you got the flag thrown for PI.

 

[oldjar07]

I'm not excusing anything but the number of coaches (assistants) these upper classmen have been through and had to build relationships with is insane...take the Davis twins only as an example:. Recruited by Kaz, then Hank Hughes, Parella for two years, Dawson and now Tuioti

DBs not any better...Warren in recruitment, Stewart, Banker for a season, Elliott for a Spring, Booker, D Williams, and Fisher

Is it any wonder player development on D has been so bad...zero consistency and getting taught something different in a different manner nearly every year

Assistant coaches usually don't stick around anywhere very long. It's a bad excuse for the poor performance we're seeing.

 

[The_Guy_Behind_The_Guy_Behind_The_Guy]

And with that said you seem to put 100% of the blame on these supposed disgruntled players. Sorry dude, that's giving everyone a pass that's drawing a salary- and many big ones at that-- as a coach. Very dangerous game you play when you hold the coaches to little accountability.

I never said, nor believe the coaches are free of accountability. My comment is in reference to the previous poster’s comments about players that are not buying in.

As far as the coaches go, part of the dilemma here is lack of depth replacing the one’s that are not bought in. You can bench them or kick them off the team but then sacrifice eligibility of players or literally through in players that are not ready yet (either not knowing the system, or not physically ready).

I have watched Big Red Wrap Up and listened to 1620 the Zone and player buy in/lack of effort has been brought up often.

 

[catch54]

Watch the receiver’s eyes, look back when he adjusts his gaze... that way you are playing the ball.

Or don’t, and run through the receiver. At least you were fast and on balance when you got the flag thrown for PI.

One wrong step or and wrongly timed wave of the arm and the receiver is gone.

 

[jlb321_rivals110621]

From the get go Frost has subtlety and in recent weeks not so subtly suggested that the the players he inherited suck. Now freshman are calling out upper classmen in postgame pressors.

Not a good way to get buy in or develop a healthy culture

 

[leodisflowers]

From the get go Frost has subtlety and in recent weeks not so subtly suggested that the the players he inherited suck. Now freshman are calling out upper classmen in postgame pressors.

Not a good way to get buy in or develop a healthy culture

His culture will be fine. You'd nitpick anything at this point with NU football.

 

[John_J_Rambo]

 

[Huskred01]

What a sh*t show circus Frost is running.

It feels like this season’s over & I’m already worried about next year.

 

[regoratsginrom]

Frost (and others) need to stop talking about "culture" and do something about it.

 

[jlb321_rivals110621]

 

[Sporty]

It is funny to hear how the fans are a problem and they should not be calling out players or the coaches. Immediately following that tirade Frost himself says nothing about the coaching and calls out his upperclassmen for lacking desire.

 

[ridge222]

Here is the question I have, what exactly is the culture that Frost wants implemented. Is it the old Nebraska culture or power and physical football or is it the Oregon/UCF culture of high scoring basketball on grass culture. I know there is more than just a style of play to a culture, but I am just having a hard time figuring this out.

There are many different ways to skin a cat, and I know he has hinted at things, but I guess I am not sure exactly what the end game is here. Turnovers are still an issue, penalties are still an issue, game management is still an issue, consistency is still an issue, 3rd down defense is still an issue, special teams are still an issue. Everything can not be fixed over night, but with the remaining season left I personally would like to see penalties and game management improve. Those seem to be 2 things that the coaches have the most impact on.

 

[Headcard]

What a sh*t show circus Frost is running.

It feels like this season’s over & I’m already worried about next year.

What about that tweet inspired your response? I really don't get it. You have a problem with him admitting to the team he may have made a mistake? That dooms us for next year?