Free Sarr

[tmuck]

Another week gone bye bye, and still nothing. Unbelieveable.

 

[weused2luvhim2]

You remember how free Enes went? Let’s not do that.

 

[bucsrule8872]

Free Sarr? Heck I would pay for Sarr at this point.

 

[BigRedMachineBigBlueNation]

At this point it's ridiculous. I don't want hear any more excuses.
FREE SARR. It's been 4 months

 

[kybassfan]

Whether or not Emmert can be objective is irrelevant. He has zero involvement with waiver decisions.

I know people like to portray Emmert as some boogeyman orchestrating corrupt dealings, but the reality is that he has pretty limited power in most situations.

The guy has proven himself to be pretty inept at times and yet has managed to stay securely employed and that’s because of what’s probably the primary responsibility of the NCAA President at this point. He’s there to serve as a human shield and limit the amount of criticism directed towards the schools.

He’s not a visionary. He’s not even a sound administrator. But there’s one thing he excels at and that is he’s a magnet for criticism that sometimes should be directed at university presidents instead of the NCAA.

As long as remains easy to hate, his job will likely be safe, but you also don’t have to worry about him interring with UK. That’s not why the schools keep him around.

He presides over massive corruption. He does nothing to cleanse the filth over which he manages. He advocates filth. Therefore he is filth and is responsible for filth. Emmert is incompetent. He accepts corruption on his wTch. He is a scumbag.

 

[bbn93]

If Sarr isn't declared eligible I'm going to lose a lot of my love for college basketball. I'm 26 and have been a die hard since I was 9-10, but i can't continue to invest so much personal interest in a sport that just seems to want to f**k us.

I'll still watch and continue to root for the cats every game but it's tiring investing so much when you know they're trying to screw you.
Sarr better be eligible.

 

[UKrazycat2_rivals]

If Sarr isn't declared eligible I'm going to lose a lot of my love for college basketball. I'm 26 and have been a die hard since I was 9-10, but i can't continue to invest so much personal interest in a sport that just seems to want to f**k us.

I'll still watch and continue to root for the cats every game but it's tiring investing so much when you know they're trying to screw you.
Sarr better be eligible.

I got underwear and socks older than you. Having said that, I'm with you.

 

[bucsrule8872]

If Sarr isn't declared eligible I'm going to lose a lot of my love for college basketball. I'm 26 and have been a die hard since I was 9-10, but i can't continue to invest so much personal interest in a sport that just seems to want to f**k us.

I'll still watch and continue to root for the cats every game but it's tiring investing so much when you know they're trying to screw you.
Sarr better be eligible.

My love for college basketball has really waned over the years. It’s just not the same game as it was when I was your age (90’s). I know there was corruption back then, but when programs got caught, they paid for it. Today, it seems like the NCAA has one set of rules for some programs and a different set for others. Part of it I’m sure is just me being more cynical as I get older. I will always root for the Cats, but I can’t get into watching other games like I use to.

 

[CatfanMike47]

My love for college basketball has really waned over the years. It’s just not the same game as it was when I was your age (90’s). I know there was corruption back then, but when programs got caught, they paid for it. Today, it seems like the NCAA has one set of rules for some programs and a different set for others. Part of it I’m sure is just me being more cynical as I get older. I will always root for the Cats, but I can’t get into watching other games like I use to.

I don’t think it’s cynical! Heck, look at how many schools that have been caught and only UL has been punished for anything! Duke, UNC, Memphis, LSU, Auburn, Arizona, NCState, and Creighton to name a few!

 

[LineSkiCat14]

I don't know what Cal said or did.. So I can't comment, specifically. But it seems to me he placated to the players and not the fans, correct? .. honestly, I can't disagree. Alternatively, he does what? Rail against BLM? So what now, Morg and myself have to suit up for the team? No one wants that.

I understand who our fanbase is.. just try and keep in mind that 94% of our production comes from African Americans. Any coach that goes against that, might as well retire yesterday.

 

[kyjeff1]

It’s not naive, it’s an informed opinion based on a clear understanding of NCAA governance. Ultimately, all NCAA decisions are made by the various committees, which consist of representatives from the member schools and conferences.

None of them work for the NCAA and none of them are accountable to Emmert. There’s a reason why Emmert felt he had to convince the Board to bypass the infractions process for Penn State. Emmert wanted them punished severely and he knew that if it went through the normal process, then he would have zero ability to influence that.

There’s also a bit of an issue with your understanding of some of the underlying facts here that seems to be coloring your view of things.

Emmert didn’t intervene regarding UK’s celebration of Cal’a 500th win. That was Dennis Thomas, chair of the Committee of Infractions and at the time, commissioner of the MEAC. That entire debacle had nothing to do with Emmert. Emmert’s done plenty of stupid things but that wasn’t one of them.

In terms of Kanter, go back and read the rules that were in place at that time. The NCAA applied the rules correctly, there were simply some issue with those. But for anyone to suggest it was some vengeful act perpetrated upon UK because Kanter didn’t attend Washington is frankly pretty absurd. By rule, Kanter received money in excess of limits set by the rules and both UK and the Kanter’s did not challenge this fact. Case closed.

They tried to argue that the Kanter’s didn’t want the money and that they held it without spending it, but those are completely irrelevant points based on the rules at that time. What mattered was did they receive excess money in the first place and the answer to that was yes. At the moment the money was transferred, Kanter’s eligibility was compromised and simply holding the money without spending it did not undo the damage according to the rules.

You can criticize the rules or the process that was put into place to guide decision making. Those are certainly fair game. But if you think this was a situation where UK was being specifically targeted, then you’re simply choosing to see whatever it is that you want to believe is true.

Okay, so I get it, Emmert doesn't literally make every ruling in every situation that gets placed at the feet of the NCAA, but you can't tell me he doesn't get a vote, have a final say, or make time to step in and make a ruling.

It definitely looks like you have a great understanding of how the NCAA works, but I think you'll agree, they are, at best, extremely inconsistent in their rulings and punishments. That fact alone is enough to make UK fans feel a lack of trust when it comes to the NCAA.

So, cool, it’s not all on Emmert, but he's the face of the NCAA, just like Cal is the face of UK. So coupled with that big paycheck Mark gets, is criticism and it's well deserved. While he isn't solely responsible for the erratic behavior displayed by the NCAA over the years, he certainly hasn't done anything to fix the issues.

Even Mark has to admit that certain schools get preferential treatment and certain schools get crapped on.

So, to me, it seems like there are too many people with too much power at the NCAA and when you have that many people involved in decision making, you’re going to get some serious inconsistency. The whole organization needs to be restructured and Mark needs to be replaced, he's done a terrible job.

 

[kyjeff1]

If you thought I was defending Emmert, then you didn’t understand my point.

Emmert’s inept. Let’s get that out of the way right up front.

What I was responding to is the fact that a lot of UK fans think he’s pulling strings behind the scenes to help some schools or hurt others. Those fans are significantly over estimating how much power Emmert really has (and likely have never personally dealt with the NCAA on anything).

Emmert is an administrator and figure head who also provides the added bonus of being a nice, juicy target for criticism so that university presidents don’t have to deal with it. But he’s not exerting all of this influence behind the scenes because at the end of the day, he really doesn’t have that much power.

Representatives from the schools and conferences call the shots and they’re not taking orders from Emmert. They don’t answer to him nor to they hold him in high enough respect to give his opinion that much weight. That’s the reality of the situation.

I like you, but I think you're wrong here. Emmert is the president of the NCAA, but you're saying he has no influence or pull??? Yeah, I don’t buy that for a second.

 

[kybassfan]

If Sarr isn't declared eligible I'm going to lose a lot of my love for college basketball. I'm 26 and have been a die hard since I was 9-10, but i can't continue to invest so much personal interest in a sport that just seems to want to f**k us.

I'll still watch and continue to root for the cats every game but it's tiring investing so much when you know they're trying to screw you.
Sarr better be eligible.

You are just getting started!!! When you get 50 yrs of fandom, then you’ll have perspective. I’m somewhat longer than that even. You get used to it.

 

[Padsfs07]

Someone put out a list last week, don't remember where, but only 2 basketball players have been denied waivers, Jacob Tryon and Michael Flowers. Both seemed like pretty shady circumstances from the schools losing the players.

 

[davekersey]

There is an SEC rule that says a player transferring into the conference must have two years of Eligibility remaining so Sarr will need a waiver from the SEC as well as the NCAA

 

[BassProCat]

Free C-Murder

 

[akaukswoosh]

I don’t think it’s cynical! Heck, look at how many schools that have been caught and only UL has been punished for anything! Duke, UNC, Memphis, LSU, Auburn, Arizona, NCState, and Creighton to name a few!

UNCheat escaping without even a scolding is a scandal in itself, but let’s see what happens with KU, LSU, Memphis, etc. first.

 

[drbubba]

I got a question. Can Sarr still declare for the draft? Didn't they extend the deadline? Didn't he have a chance to enter the draft even after his transfer request? Maybe the NCAA is going to use that against him and say, "You're wanting to leave Wake based on them keeping you from entering the draft is not a legitimate reason to leave since you could (have) still enter(ed) the draft, and Manning getting fired is not reason enough by itself to allow you to transfer." I can't imagine what else could be causing this ridiculous delay. Even if that has something to do with it, theNCAA should have decided something by now.

 

[kl40504_rivals]

There is an SEC rule that says a player transferring into the conference must have two years of Eligibility remaining so Sarr will need a waiver from the SEC as well as the NCAA

That will happen.

 

[Canned Heat]

Free dickie free Sarr

 

[akaukswoosh]

Free Sarr? Heck I would pay for Sarr at this point.

[laughing]

 

[ColonelCat_rivals376764]

There is an SEC rule that says a player transferring into the conference must have two years of Eligibility remaining so Sarr will need a waiver from the SEC as well as the NCAA

Why wait 2 months to tell UK? All the other transfers have been approved, so It's screw UK for as long as we can, then create a roadblock-temporary- we can't beat em but we can slow em down. If they knew this earlier why didn't they tell us? Screw the NCAA, one of these days they are gonna drive their last nail, and I hope I can be in the line to pee on their grave.

 

[Anon1679859502]

I’m sure UK has done their homework on the transfer stuff, which is probably why it took so long to get everything sent in to NCAA and SEC. I’m still not sweating it and believe Sarr will be eligible soon

 

[Whoppercat]

My love for college basketball has really waned over the years. It’s just not the same game as it was when I was your age (90’s).

Wow. You’re older than your 90’s?

 

[weatherbird]

There is an SEC rule that says a player transferring into the conference must have two years of Eligibility remaining so Sarr will need a waiver from the SEC as well as the NCAA

That will happen.

Why wait 2 months to tell UK? All the other transfers have been approved, so It's screw UK for as long as we can, then create a roadblock-temporary- we can't beat em but we can slow em down. If they knew this earlier why didn't they tell us? Screw the NCAA, one of these days they are gonna drive their last nail, and I hope I can be in the line to pee on their grave.

Yes there is a rule that states that. Along with the rule are 2 noted exceptions, a player transferring from a institution that is discontinuing the sport (won't apply to Sarr), and a player transferring to an institution that offers a degree not at the original institution. Now do we really think that the advisors can't find a major that UK offers that Wake did not?? I wouldn't be surprised if UK actually had a professional sports degree that we all know Wake doesn't offer. But if not that, I would bet my bottom dollar that UK has him slated to obtain a degree that Wake doesn't offer. And we would all be crazy if we believed for a minute that UK compliance didn't know about this rule when seeking Sarr as a transfer. That won't be the rule that keeps him from playing, it will be the NCAA ruling, but I agree with others that he will likely receive the waiver.

 

[UKnCincy_rivals]

Why wait 2 months to tell UK? All the other transfers have been approved, so It's screw UK for as long as we can, then create a roadblock-temporary- we can't beat em but we can slow em down. If they knew this earlier why didn't they tell us? Screw the NCAA, one of these days they are gonna drive their last nail, and I hope I can be in the line to pee on their grave.

It’s UK’s responsibility to understand the SEC bylaws, not the NCAA. That said, the NCAA won’t hold up their process because a conference waiver is needed. The formal elements of those two waiver processes are handled sequentially.

One would also hope that this wasn’t a surprise to UK. While Kevin Sergent is newer to UK (relatively speaking), he’s been in compliance for a while. We also have other folks that have been around as long, or longer than Calipari. The SEC waiver would’ve been something they needed to address when we were recruiting Alex Oriakhi as a transfer, so it shouldn’t have been a surprise. The SEC has also changed this rule a lot just over the past decade, so again, it should be something they were aware of.

 

[akaukswoosh]

Btw. Still a long time before CBB starts.