Fred should be fired today

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Since Fred's hall pass is clearly stamped LACK OF NIL, should there be a different collective in Lincoln?

I would also love to know how much more NIL money Deivon Smith got than Rollie Worster. Maybe St. John's shelled out way more $ than NU did - I really don't know. But last spring Smith was the Utah guard that I wanted badly because he was actually an athletic point guard. Now Smith's going dancing as a #2 or #3 seed and the Huskers are limping into The Crown with the stellar trio of Worster, Sam and Ulis.
It would be very interesting to know the answer to that question. I remember a quote from Fred talking about the reason Rollie decided to come to Lincoln was some family connection to the state of Nebraska. I don't think he came to UNL because of any large NIL amount. I have to think the NIL basketball budget for St. John's and Pettino is significant. Even more than Creighton's. Plus with Matty A.'s slinky recruiting methods we probably don't want to know how Smith ended up at St. John's.
 

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I'm starting to believe Nebraska has plenty of resources. Plenty of below average resources.
The challenge is our resources compared to the resources of the rest the schools in the BIG conference. Drake has a terrific coach but he is competing in the Missouri Valley Conference.
 

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How much are their players making?
I don't know particulars about what each player is making but they are getting big NIL hauls from donors. There was an article in sports illustrated about their NIL pot getting huge. They also just updated facilities, although I think that was mostly for football.

I am not claiming that any success Tech is having this season compared to nebraska is due to NIL differences. I don't know. I just know that tech has huge NIL donors and lots of them.
 

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texas tech has crazy NIL right now.

So does Iowa State, at least for basketball. Dennis Albaugh pretty much gives them a blank check.

Unless Warren Buffett suddenly becomes a huge basketball fan, it's going to be hard to complete with the NIL money of other Power 5 basketball programs. Howard Hawks was really our only big basketball donor, and he's dead now.
 

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It would be very interesting to know the answer to that question. I remember a quote from Fred talking about the reason Rollie decided to come to Lincoln was some family connection to the state of Nebraska. I don't think he came to UNL because of any large NIL amount. I have to think the NIL basketball budget for St. John's and Pettino is significant. Even more than Creighton's. Plus with Matty A.'s slinky recruiting methods we probably don't want to know how Smith ended up at St. John's.
Creighton reportedly payed Kalkbrenner 1.6 million to return. Probably paid Pop Issacs and Jackson McAmdrew (HS player of year in Minnesota) a lot to come. I have a feeling Kalkbrenner got more $ alone than all of the Nebraska players got combined
 

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Creighton reportedly payed Kalkbrenner 1.6 million to return. Probably paid Pop Issacs and Jackson McAmdrew (HS player of year in Minnesota) a lot to come. I have a feeling Kalkbrenner got more $ alone than all of the Nebraska players got combined
I think you are exactly right. I don't think that UNL's total NIL bball pot equaled what Kalkbrenner received. Hopefully that will change in the near future.
 

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So does Iowa State, at least for basketball. Dennis Albaugh pretty much gives them a blank check.

Unless Warren Buffett suddenly becomes a huge basketball fan, it's going to be hard to complete with the NIL money of other Power 5 basketball programs. Howard Hawks was really our only big basketball donor, and he's dead now.
You nailed it. Albaugh has stepped up big time the last few years for Iowa State and it's paid in spades. I wish Warren Buffet(or his daughter Susan) were die hard UNL basketball fans.
 

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I think you are exactly right. I don't think that UNL's total NIL bball pot equaled what Kalkbrenner received. Hopefully that will change in the near future.
If Nebraska’s basketball NIL is really that pathetic, maybe a different collective is needed?
 

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Since Fred's hall pass is clearly stamped LACK OF NIL, should there be a different collective in Lincoln?

I would also love to know how much more NIL money Deivon Smith got than Rollie Worster. Maybe St. John's shelled out way more $ than NU did - I really don't know. But last spring Smith was the Utah guard that I wanted badly because he was actually an athletic point guard. Now Smith's going dancing as a #2 or #3 seed and the Huskers are limping into The Crown with the stellar trio of Worster, Sam and Ulis.

I dunno the answer, but if we are going on the cheap for men’s basketball that’s athletic department malpractice. You can’t skimp on the top 2 revenue sports. Football and Men’s basketball should be top priorities for NIL, full stop. Sorry VB fans, I like our girls, but they might be sucking up and inordinate amount of NIL dollars. (in comparison to most schools) Just a thought…

But like I said, I don’t know if we’re spending enough on basketball (Maybe Fred just sucks 🤷‍♂️) But if we’re not… shame.
 

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I dunno the answer, but if we are going on the cheap for men’s basketball that’s athletic department malpractice. You can’t skimp on the top 2 revenue sports. Football and Men’s basketball should be top priorities for NIL, full stop. Sorry VB fans, I like our girls, but they might be sucking up and inordinate amount of NIL dollars. (in comparison to most schools) Just a thought…

But like I said, I don’t know if we’re spending enough on basketball (Maybe Fred just sucks 🤷‍♂️) But if we’re not… shame.
I think you underestimate the following the volleyball team has. And donors can earmark how the money is spent. If there donors want there to go to volleyball. Nothing the university can do about it.
 

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Creighton reportedly payed Kalkbrenner 1.6 million to return. Probably paid Pop Issacs and Jackson McAmdrew (HS player of year in Minnesota) a lot to come. I have a feeling Kalkbrenner got more $ alone than all of the Nebraska players got combined
Creighton earned the NIL. It’s had one of the best 4 year runs in all of college basketball going into this year. 4 NCAA tournament appearances with no one and done, 3 sweet 16, one elite 8, and the year they only made it to the round of 32 they went pound for pound with eventual Natty winner KU.

Fred needs to earn more NIL. Stop being so dam entitled. Plenty of teams make it to the field of 64 and 32 with little NIL deals. I’ll take the NIL excuse for making the sweet 16. I won’t take it for reasons he lost to Iowa & Minnesota @ Home
 

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I think you underestimate the following the volleyball team has. And donors can earmark how the money is spent. If there donors want there to go to volleyball. Nothing the university can do about it.

Not sure that’s how it exactly works. Sure if a private donor has a business and they want to do an NIL deal with a volleyball player that has nothing to do with the school and the school has no say in the nature of that deal. But the collective is totally different, sure certain high dollar donors to the collective can earmark money for volleyball, but the rest of the money is at the behest of the collective and what they negotiate with the player and the university’s “input” on the allocation. And they do take direct input from the university as to how they should allocate NIL funds, if annyone believes they don’t they’re a fool. And they shouldn’t be allocating more money for volleyball over men’s basketball. That’s financial malpractice if they are over prioritizing women’s volleyball. Football and men’s basketball should have priority over all other sports, period, no exceptions. Yes we make money off of volleyball unlike many schools, but that money would be dwarfed by a quality basketball program. Basketball program could and would make 5 times the money if they ever got their **** together. Hence why our collective should prioritize basketball over volleyball, if they were smart.
 
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I think you underestimate the following the volleyball team has. And donors can earmark how the money is spent. If there donors want there to go to volleyball. Nothing the university can do about it.
This this is correct whether you want to pay into 1890 or to the Huskers athletic fund.
 

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I enjoy the success of the volleyball team, but if disbanding that program forever meant a single win in the men’s NCAA Basketball Tournament, I do that deal in an instant.

God help us if resources funneled to the volleyball program are compromising the basketball or football programs, even a minuscule amount.
 

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Creighton reportedly payed Kalkbrenner 1.6 million to return. Probably paid Pop Issacs and Jackson McAmdrew (HS player of year in Minnesota) a lot to come. I have a feeling Kalkbrenner got more $ alone than all of the Nebraska players got combined
I don't think Kalkbrenner is getting anywhere near $1.6 million. I would guess he is getting $500K to $750K. There were reports that other teams offered two to three times what Kalkbrenner got at Creighton but he wanted to stay at Creighton and with McDermott. Nobody was offering him $3.2 to $4.8 million.
 

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I enjoy the success of the volleyball team, but if disbanding that program forever meant a single win in the men’s NCAA Basketball Tournament, I do that deal in an instant.

God help us if resources funneled to the volleyball program are compromising the basketball or football programs, even a minuscule amount.
Crazy talk
 

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Not sure that’s how it exactly works. Sure if a private donor has a business and they want to do an NIL deal with a volleyball player that has nothing to do with the school and the school has no say in the nature of that deal. But the collective is totally different, sure certain high dollar donors to the collective can earmark money for volleyball, but the rest of the money is at the behest of the collective and what they negotiate with the player and the university’s “input” on the allocation. And they do take direct input from the university as to how they should allocate NIL funds, if annyone believes they don’t they’re a fool. And they shouldn’t be allocating more money for volleyball over men’s basketball. That’s financial malpractice if they are over prioritizing women’s volleyball. Football and men’s basketball should have priority over all other sports, period, no exceptions. Yes we make money off of volleyball unlike many schools, but that money would be dwarfed by a quality basketball program. Basketball program could and would make 5 times the money if they ever got their **** together. Hence why our collective should prioritize basketball over volleyball, if they were smart.
I don’t disagree with the way it should be prioritized. I am basing my information off of a few donors and how they explained to me how it works. And they told me donors earmarked how they want that spent. And there are a lot of older financially well off women that follow the volleyball program and I assume a lot of donations for valloeyball come from that
 

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I don't know particulars about what each player is making but they are getting big NIL hauls from donors. There was an article in sports illustrated about their NIL pot getting huge. They also just updated facilities, although I think that was mostly for football.

I am not claiming that any success Tech is having this season compared to nebraska is due to NIL differences. I don't know. I just know that tech has huge NIL donors and lots of them.
Texas tech big NIL push came from 2 alumni who struck gold and sold their business first billions and told Tech NIL is on us .
 
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Creighton reportedly payed Kalkbrenner 1.6 million to return. Probably paid Pop Issacs and Jackson McAmdrew (HS player of year in Minnesota) a lot to come. I have a feeling Kalkbrenner got more $ alone than all of the Nebraska players got combined
I have a hard time believing this was “reported” anywhere. There is no way Kalk is being paid that much and there is no way that he gets more than the entire Nebraska program. Sounds like a sour grapes excuse to me.

Edit - I’ve heard it mentioned on local sports radio shows by hosts who used to work in the Nebraska athletic department that Nebraska’s hoops NIL is bigger than Creightons.
 

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Indiana might go after the Clemson coach.
It appears they did talk to Beard but the talks stalled.

My texas guess is they get Sean Miller.
 
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They should also take the names off the backs of the jerseys. Replace with dollar signs - the more NIL you have, the more dollar signs on the back of the shirt. That way I would know who to cheer for the most. $$$$ > $. (probably a lot of blank jerseys, lol)
 

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Indiana might go after the Clemson coach.
It appears they did talk to Beard but the talks stalled.

My texas guess is they get Sean Miller.
Miller is a solid coach but like Bill Self, I wonder if he will struggle in an environment where everyone's players get paid.

Couldn't Texas just throw enough money at Sampson to pull him away from Houston?
 

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Indiana might go after the Clemson coach.
It appears they did talk to Beard but the talks stalled.

My texas guess is they get Sean Miller.

Wouldn't Texas be interested in Grant McCasland?

The Clemson coach is an interesting case. In his first 7 years there they weren't very good, they only made the tournament once and didn't win a game. But ever since they've been pretty good. Hopefully Hoiberg can do the same thing here.
 
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I have a hard time believing this was “reported” anywhere. There is no way Kalk is being paid that much and there is no way that he gets more than the entire Nebraska program. Sounds like a sour grapes excuse to me.

Edit - I’ve heard it mentioned on local sports radio shows by hosts who used to work in the Nebraska athletic department that Nebraska’s hoops NIL is bigger than Creightons.
Then they are that much more embarrassing.
 

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I wonder how much NIL Brennan Rigsby got to join the Gophers? I would certainly take him over Essegian at this point.
 

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I have a hard time believing this was “reported” anywhere. There is no way Kalk is being paid that much and there is no way that he gets more than the entire Nebraska program. Sounds like a sour grapes excuse to me.

Edit - I’ve heard it mentioned on local sports radio shows by hosts who used to work in the Nebraska athletic department that Nebraska’s hoops NIL is bigger than Creightons.

I don’t know if this is true, but if it is, Fred is bum and should be packing his bags.
 

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Eduardo Andre having a nice game for West Virginia.

I knew Joe Cipriano was onto something when he recruited that guy. 😎
 

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I wonder how much NIL Brennan Rigsby got to join the Gophers? I would certainly take him over Essegian at this point.

Every one of our portal additions are a big fat failure. Now if Fred was hamstrung by a poor *** NIL commitment, that’s a problem that can be easily fixed. (Doesn’t seem to be a consensus on this issue) But from what I’ve heard we’ve spent enough to be better than this.
 

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Miller is a solid coach but like Bill Self, I wonder if he will struggle in an environment where everyone's players get paid.

Couldn't Texas just throw enough money at Sampson to pull him away from Houston?
Good call on Miller, you might be right.

I am sure UT could do that but Sampson might not want to leave??
 

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Wouldn't Texas be interested in Grant McCasland?

The Clemson coach is an interesting case. In his first 7 years there they weren't very good, they only made the tournament once and didn't win a game. But ever since they've been pretty good. Hopefully Hoiberg can do the same thing here.
Sounds like the Clemson coach said "No Thanks" to IU
 

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I don't think Kalkbrenner is getting anywhere near $1.6 million. I would guess he is getting $500K to $750K. There were reports that other teams offered two to three times what Kalkbrenner got at Creighton but he wanted to stay at Creighton and with McDermott. Nobody was offering him $3.2 to $4.8 million.
Dude is married to some girl at CU. So I am sure she (already) started ruining his life and made him stay.

Not that it matters now. His 8 years at CU are up.
 

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Good call on Miller, you might be right.

I am sure UT could do that but Sampson might not want to leave??
I don't think anybody really wants the Texas job, but UT tends to make offers that coaches can't refuse.
 

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Big 12 Carnival Barker/Commissioner Brett Yormark pitched idea of a 76-team field for the NCAA Tournament this week.

The idea is getting skewered right now on Pardon the Interruption, but the funniest part was Kornheiser saying:

"First of all, who is Brett Yormark? If he walked through the door right now and it said 'Brett Yormark' on his chest, I still wouldn't know who he is."

Hope our resident Yormark groupie got to see this, but he was probably busy annoying people on some other non K-State message board.
 

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I wonder how much NIL Brennan Rigsby got to join the Gophers? I would certainly take him over Essegian at this point.
Rigsby did a lot of different things for Minnesota this year. Essegian did only one thing for us, and when he wasn’t doing that he was useless. Horrible pick up in portal.
 

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I have a hard time believing this was “reported” anywhere. There is no way Kalk is being paid that much and there is no way that he gets more than the entire Nebraska program. Sounds like a sour grapes excuse to me.

Edit - I’ve heard it mentioned on local sports radio shows by hosts who used to work in the Nebraska athletic department that Nebraska’s hoops NIL is bigger than Creightons.
Sour grapes from who?

Kalk has an NIL valuation of 1.91 million so if he in fact did get 1.6 then they got a deal on him. I don’t believe Neb has a higher hoops NIL and if they do they have spent it very foolishly in comparison.
 

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Sour grapes from who?

Kalk has an NIL valuation of 1.91 million so if he in fact did get 1.6 then they got a deal on him. I don’t believe Neb has a higher hoops NIL and if they do they have spent it very foolishly in comparison.
Reported Nebraska spent nearly seven figures on Berke. If they did, that was a horrible investment.