Frank Martin
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We'd go from a players first program to a GET YOUR *** MOVING I DGAF ABOUT YOUR BROKE LEG! Type of program.
I have to disagree with you.......the fact that he picked up Bowen says that he is willing to stick his foot over the line.......we don't need that mentality at UK.....UK is not Second Chance U like U6, Kansas and a few other schools.
Surely you jest.
He scares the crap out me just looking at him and I'm a thousand miles away.
The intense, borderline crazy frank martin that coached at k st was much different than the one now at usc.
He seems very subdued these days, almost like he’s medicated, compared to how he once was. jmdo
He seems very subdued these days, almost like he’s medicated, compared to how he once was. jmdo
I think he is good for the conference but I wouldn’t like him at UK.
Agree,there is not much way to sugarcoat or whitewash this.It wasn't a good move any way you look at it.I doubt he ever plays a game there.The way I understand it he could be eligible the second semester next year,so half and done at best.
Frank Martin has been known to take high risk players and mold them into great college players and more importantly, men. The Brian Bowen commitment to UL though proven dirty, was different than the public perception. I always believed that Brian Bowen never step foot on campus at all. But he had been recruited by Pitino and staff since he was a sophomore.
That said, kid made a mistake choosing U6.
He like the Balls can't control what his father does. I don't know his financial situation, but I'm assuming it's not in the top 5% if you have your family living in Galt House, yes I know it's swanky but nevertheless it's a hotel. I am going to go out on a limb and say that everyone deserves a chance, he is only 18, I was a knucklehead and lucky I came from a small town se KY. Frank Martin will be a coach that doesn't take **** from players, if anyone can put Bowen on the right track it's him
That said, kid made a mistake choosing U6.
He like the Balls can't control what his father does. I don't know his financial situation, but I'm assuming it's not in the top 5% if you have your family living in Galt House, yes I know it's swanky but nevertheless it's a hotel. I am going to go out on a limb and say that everyone deserves a chance, he is only 18, I was a knucklehead and lucky I came from a small town se KY. Frank Martin will be a coach that doesn't take **** from players, if anyone can put Bowen on the right track it's him
Pimptino said Bowen fell in their lap. He had not recruited him at all. So I don’t know where you get UL recruited him since he was a sophomore.
$100k recruited him.
I don't know if I want him as my coach, but I really do like him. He's one of the more entertaining guys in college basketball by far and very respectable.
He might be ok for S. Carolina type jobs, but not a blue blood job. I just don't think he's good enough.
Love him. He's one of my favorite non-UK affiliated coaches in the country. I don't think this kind of job is where he's meant to be, but he's really good. He'll have Carolina back up on its feet again in no time. They aren't half bad now even after all the players they lost.
Hell no. Closest I want him to our team is on the losing end of a game. Never have been a fan of his and the Bowen deal cinched that for me.
Seriously guys?
USCjr is not UK.
If Bowen can play it was a brilliant move for a team that rarely gets more than 2 impact players each year.
We appear a bit spoiled with our annual handful of 5 stars....
I wonder what the reactions would be if we considered Bowen back in 2007 - 2009?
Besides, his dad took the money not him....at least that is the line the fan base of whatever team he went to would say. And we would have as well before Cal.
Of course he shouldn’t be allowed to play at all. I am just glad he is not at UL.
And let’s be honest, I’d rather he get to play rather than the felonious transfers that UL, UT, and BAMA are willing to take in football.
No way.....no how do I want him at UK. While he is entertaining, and a good coach, he's not a "Blue Blood" type of coach, IMHO, and taking Bowen shows he will, as another poster so eloquently put it: "put his foot over the fire".
When Cal does decide to retire, we can do much better.
When Cal does decide to retire, we can do much better.
Brian,his dad took the money,somebody put the family up at the Galt House for a period of time.He knew to some degree what was going on.He should not be eligible to play in college,by taking him Martin condones what went on/is going on in college basketball.The NCAA won't take a stand on anything that is fair to all,they operate on a sliding scale depending on what school is involved so it is up to the individual schools take a stand on what is right. Martin didn't do that as I see it.
He wouldn’t be our coach, but I like him. Most of the SC fans that I’ve talked to don’t like him at all.
I'd take Bruce Pearl over Frank Martin. I think Pearl is a really good coach. And he has said in the past being the coach at UK is every coaches dream job. He loves the fans and he's charismatic enough for the fans to embrace him.
Now I'm not sure he would make the short list on the coaching search when Cal retires. But I'm sure he'll want to throw his name in the hat when it's available.
Now I'm not sure he would make the short list on the coaching search when Cal retires. But I'm sure he'll want to throw his name in the hat when it's available.
The only reason I would want Martin around here would to be to take care of Tipton. Asst in charge of taking out the trash.
Totally disagree. If the NCAA says he can play then who are we to judge the kid or the coach?
Martin is looking out for USCjr as he should, and if the NCAA allows the kid to play then he should play.
The only example I can show in comparison is Bledsoe, of course his grade was very shady with the Algebra fiasco, pretty much everyone knew it was, but the NCAA said he could play, where was this moral superiority then...?
Again, it was Daddy Bowen that took the money not the kid. I have zero doubt the dad is a POS and used his kid for monetary gain.
I also agree he shouldn't play ever in college.
But I don't think Frank is lowering his morale standards at all. He is giving the kid a chance assuming the NCAA allows it...
By the way, in Memphis Cal was blistered for providing 2nd chances to players who did the following:
Assaulted a man on Beale Street and the player actually broke their own hand.
Arrested for assault on a girlfriend.
Arrested for pot after being suspended twice by Cal previously.
Arrested for solicitation.
Arrested for identity theft.
Took 2 kids with questionable ACT scores, one which had been denied by other schools for this exact reason.
This isn't church league, it's big business and if a kid is ruled eligible by the NCAA he will play somewhere, and it is not as if the kid committed an act of violence on someone. And we have no idea if his dad gave him a dime. Probably did but, we don't know.
I would bet the house the kid himself had nothing to do with the Galt House. I've had two 18 year olds and they don't make living arrangements when it involves the entire family.
You can take a stand on what is right and criticize coaches, but our own will be in that group as well as most coaches in the game today and the past.
I understand where you are coming from agree on some points but the Bowen case is only one piece of the ugly picture painted by the FBI investigation.As you say we don't know how innocent or guilty the kid was in all of this,but his family was not innocent It is truly too bad for the kid that his amateur status was collateral damage of what his father ,UL and the shoe company did.
As to what and how Cal did things at Memphis or how and what Martin and other coaches do at other schools,where they are in the pecking order doesn't define right or wrong.We see this differently and probably neither of us is 100% right or wrong,but it does make for god discussion.
As to what and how Cal did things at Memphis or how and what Martin and other coaches do at other schools,where they are in the pecking order doesn't define right or wrong.We see this differently and probably neither of us is 100% right or wrong,but it does make for god discussion.
Chris Holtmann is who you’ll want to watch. Had success at Butler and having a pretty good first year at OSU. Believe the guy went to HS in Lexington. Young — good coach — seems like a good guy.
Yes we do,and I like Frank Martin for some strange reason,just wish he had left this situation alone.
I think Martin is a very good coach, but I don't see his style as a fit here at all. He would hate all of the media and fan attention. It would drive him nuts and his brash way wouldn't sell here. In addition, his style of ball (while successful) is boring.
Agree,don't think he would be a good fit here at all but still the guy is good for college basketball overall.