Fran Brown vs Greg Long Term

yesrutgers01

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What’s UCONN’s best win and worst loss this year?
They beat a decent Duke team. 2-1 against p4 and their 3 losses were all in OT…

keep in mind- UConn was in worse shape then our Ash era teams. And have no resources.
I don’t know if he would be successful here but he has made a heck of a case for himself
 

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nice, he should have been fired before the watered down BE made him look better than his buffanova days. No one has done less with more unless you can prove me wrong. I'll remind you, in a watered down BE, we never won it despite having more 1,2,3 rd picks than any other program in the country for a 2yr stretch.

you, rufanforlife, and ru66 are always name calling and sound so angry. I can't help if your wife sleeps with other guys cause you're inadequate or that you make no money and drive a rebranded yugo but I can tell you to try and use your brain more.
Honesrly, you're the worst. On more than one occasion you want to judge people by their monetary success. That's stupid enough but you don't even know anyone's financial situation. I called you out before about how dumb you are. I shouldnt even have responded to your ignorance but to make a point-- l'm a retired senior partner in a large international consulting firm that did better than well. A guy with your attitude wouldn't last a day in our firm. Grow up.
 
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They beat a decent Duke team. 2-1 against p4 and their 3 losses were all in OT…

keep in mind- UConn was in worse shape then our Ash era teams. And have no resources.
I don’t know if he would be successful here but he has made a heck of a case for himself
Why is everyone mentioning all of their losses are in OT? They lost to Delaware, Rice and Syracuse. Taking any of those teams to OT is not impressive. All 3 losses are terrible. Duke has not beaten anyone this year. Why is that win impressive?

I also like the fact that no one will say their other P4 win was against a 1-10 BC. I guess 2 P4 wins sounds much better.
 
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I don't think this is appropriate. Unless there is evidence of such, this is just slander. You don't have to like him as a coach but to say he absolutely knew about what happened at PSU without proof is slanderous, dangerous, and unfair.
Take the time to read the Freeh report, Gran jury report and proceedings, as well as the Pennsylvania auditor general report then tell me it’s inappropriate.

Take the time to read about his time in Tampa. From the players, coaches, lunch servers, even equipment team.

Or the reason he was overlooked at OSU and fired.

Will ignore his awful game day coaching on the field.
 

RUTGERS95

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Take the time to read the Freeh report, Gran jury report and proceedings, as well as the Pennsylvania auditor general report then tell me it’s inappropriate.

Take the time to read about his time in Tampa. From the players, coaches, lunch servers, even equipment team.

Or the reason he was overlooked at OSU and fired.

Will ignore his awful game day coaching on the field.
I'm specifically talking about Ped state. If there was something there, it would be bigger news than an accusation that as later rescinded.

the rest of this is just noise, we already know he's a shyyyyty coach that no one wants unless your Umass type
 

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And you are sure he'd win championships in the big ten? He did get fired from UCLA after going 17--19 over his last 3 years there.
And that 17-19 is only marginally worse than Greg 2.0's best run at 19-18. But when did Greg go 29-11 on a 3 year run, finish first in his division, have 3 straight winning conference records, post two 10 plus win seasons in a row and beat 8 ranked teams in a three seasons? Don't think Greg has beaten 6 ranked teams in 17 years of coaching? Mora posted winning overall and conference records in his 6 years. Greg is 28-40/15-38 over 6 seasons.
 
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Coaches: Jim Mora, Ken Dillingham, PJ Fleck (yes, PJ Fleck), Bob Chesney, Brian Hartline, Pat Fitzgerald, and there are others. Quite certain you will shoot every single one of them down.

This is a discussion forum. You do realize people can have different opinions?
Big GS fan here. Everyone greatly underestimates how difficult it is to win at Rutgers and in the B10.

But if we do go in a different direction, I would agree that we should look hard at Fleck and Fitzgerald. Both have won as HCs in the B10, at places where it is tough to win. Both combine enough youth and experience to ramp up and do it here. Might be in our price range too.

I do not think we should go anywhere near a coordinator (how many times do we need to learn that lesson), Fran Brown, or a coach at a lower level.

We need to act bigtime in every sport going forward. Proven winning head coach at this level only need apply.
 

RUTGERS95

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And that 17-19 is only marginally worse than Greg 2.0's best run at 19-18. But when did Greg go 29-11 on a 3 year run, finish first in his division, have 3 straight winning conference records, post two 10 plus win seasons in a row and beat 8 ranked teams in a three seasons? Don't think Greg has beaten 6 ranked teams in 17 years of coaching? Mora posted winning overall and conference records in his 6 years. Greg is 28-40/15-38 over 6 seasons.
what is funny is that these guys will go to every extreme and perform Nadia Comaneci like moves to explain how it does't relate to Greg.

Mora is a winner, we cannot say that about Greg
 

RUTGERS95

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Big GS fan here. Everyone greatly underestimates how difficult it is to win at Rutgers and in the B10.

But if we do go in a different direction, I would agree that we should look hard at Fleck and Fitzgerald. Both have won as HCs in the B10, at places where it is tough to win. Both combine enough youth and experience to ramp up and do it here. Might be in our price range too.

I do not think we should go anywhere near a coordinator (how many times do we need to learn that lesson), Fran Brown, or a coach at a lower level.

We need to act bigtime in every sport going forward. Proven winning head coach at this level only need apply.
somehow Greg would get credit for creating Fleck and handing off to him
 

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Honesrly, you're the worst. On more than one occasion you want to judge people by their monetary succeas. That's stupid enough but you don't even know anyone's financial situation. I called you out before about how dumb you are. I shouldnt even have responded to your ignorance but to make a point-- l'm a retired senior partner in a large international consulting firm that did better than well. A guy with your attitude wouldn't last a day in our firm. Grow up.
Honestly, you have issues.
 

yesrutgers01

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Why is everyone mentioning all of their losses are in OT? They lost to Delaware, Rice and Syracuse. Taking any of those teams to OT is not impressive. All 3 losses are terrible. Duke has not beaten anyone this year. Why is that win impressive?

I also like the fact that no one will say their other P4 win was against a 1-10 BC. I guess 2 P4 wins sounds much better.
Take in mind we are talking about UConn. When we talk about the mess that Greg took from Ash- UConn was so much worse and no funding or backing at all. Their record would not be impressive if they were anyone else. But to get them to where he has when just a couple of years ago- they would be lucky to have 1 win with the same schedule...
 
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And that 17-19 is only marginally worse than Greg 2.0's best run at 19-18. But when did Greg go 29-11 on a 3 year run, finish first in his division, have 3 straight winning conference records, post two 10 plus win seasons in a row and beat 8 ranked teams in a three seasons? Don't think Greg has beaten 6 ranked teams in 17 years of coaching? Mora posted winning overall and conference records in his 6 years. Greg is 28-40/15-38 over 6 seasons.
They are missing the biggest piece of the puzzle- Mora is doing it at UCONN
 
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what is funny is that these guys will go to every extreme and perform Nadia Comaneci like moves to explain how it does't relate to Greg.

Mora is a winner, we cannot say that about Greg
In fairness, from 2005-11, Greg was a winner. He did a remarkable job building the program up, and making it a consistent winner in the old Big East. He gets a pass for 2010 because it was just an awful year after EL was injured. I had really hoped we turned the corner in 2024, moving to a 4-5 W-L record in the B1G, and with a powerful offense, the hopes were high this year. I have never suggested Greg gets fired after this year. But next year, if it is another 6-6 season with 3 B1G wins, and a Pinstripe/Detroit Bowl, perhaps Keli Zinn will decide to make the move. I truly hope we are not there. Would love to see Greg succeed.
 
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Mora Jr is interviewing at Cal. Not sure if UConn will be able to sustain things if he leaves. But good for them...they can handle a MAC slate with a couple ACC teams thrown in. Last time they played a B1G school they got destroyed by a mediocre Maryland team.
 
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In fairness, from 2005-11, Greg was a winner. He did a remarkable job building the program up, and making it a consistent winner in the old Big East. He gets a pass for 2010 because it was just an awful year after EL was injured. I had really hoped we turned the corner in 2024, moving to a 4-5 W-L record in the B1G, and with a powerful offense, the hopes were high this year. I have never suggested Greg gets fired after this year. But next year, if it is another 6-6 season with 3 B1G wins, and a Pinstripe/Detroit Bowl, perhaps Keli Zinn will decide to make the move. I truly hope we are not there. Would love to see Greg succeed.
Not giving Greg credit for those years- I can share that I know of a player where Rutgers made their first bowl in 2005 in his first year and their streak of 5 straight bowls ended in his first year not playing at Rutgers. Just saying...lol
 
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Honestly, you have issues.
If you support this guy you've got problems too. So you also think a person's worth depends on his financials. What a sorry individual you two are. And by the way using those standards,I'm a tremendous person--- haha.
 

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And that 17-19 is only marginally worse than Greg 2.0's best run at 19-18. But when did Greg go 29-11 on a 3 year run, finish first in his division, have 3 straight winning conference records, post two 10 plus win seasons in a row and beat 8 ranked teams in a three seasons? Don't think Greg has beaten 6 ranked teams in 17 years of coaching? Mora posted winning overall and conference records in his 6 years. Greg is 28-40/15-38 over 6 seasons.
So Ucla should have kept him based on your analysis or a legitimate power football team sould have hired him before Uconn ,an independent with no power football conference future ,did so?
 
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Mora Jr is interviewing at Cal. Not sure if UConn will be able to sustain things if he leaves. But good for them...they can handle a MAC slate with a couple ACC teams thrown in. Last time they played a B1G school they got destroyed by a mediocre Maryland team.
They lost 50--7 to Maryland last year. A team we beat that year at their place 31-17.
 

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So Ucla should have kept him based on your analysis or a legitimate power football team sould have hired him before Uconn ,an independent with no power football conference future ,did so?
Where did I state what you said. Goodness, if the standard is being only marginally worse than Greg to retain a coach, then any program that does that has a loser mentality and deserves the results that they obtain.

Perhaps you have heard of the concept of redemption? Do you read major sports publications? Mora has done a nice job of redeeming himself, and his name has been raised as a prospect for a number of P4 head coach openings.

Let me ask you this, and you probably will not answer. Do you think any P4 football programs will be knocking on Greg's door and steal him from Rutgers? I can say categorically that answer is no. On the other hand, Mora is garnering interest. Greg himself likes to say that you can't let the past steal from now. Now matters. Right now, Mora is of interest to several teams. Greg, not so much.
 

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Take in mind we are talking about UConn. When we talk about the mess that Greg took from Ash- UConn was so much worse and no funding or backing at all. Their record would not be impressive if they were anyone else. But to get them to where he has when just a couple of years ago- they would be lucky to have 1 win with the same schedule...
UConn has better institutional support & much more donor support then RU has ever had
 

RUTGERS95

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In fairness, from 2005-11, Greg was a winner. He did a remarkable job building the program up, and making it a consistent winner in the old Big East. He gets a pass for 2010 because it was just an awful year after EL was injured. I had really hoped we turned the corner in 2024, moving to a 4-5 W-L record in the B1G, and with a powerful offense, the hopes were high this year. I have never suggested Greg gets fired after this year. But next year, if it is another 6-6 season with 3 B1G wins, and a Pinstripe/Detroit Bowl, perhaps Keli Zinn will decide to make the move. I truly hope we are not there. Would love to see Greg succeed.
I get that but 1.0 isn't relevant any longer and let's not forget that he feasted on a watered down BE, never won the conference, and had a losing record against BCS teams. the same chorus of issues when he left were being echoed down the same hallways. 2.0 is all that matters now. Hell, even Fran beat 3 ranked teams in half the time. we're 6yr into 2.0, I don't care about 15-19yrs ago. Feels like worlds away...lol
 

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UConn has better institutional support & much more donor support then RU has ever had
Not sure if you understand that almost all of that support is for Basketball. Their football team gets almost nothing...And I am ok with that- the scum of the earth. But hell no- UConn football is like comparing my paycheck to Musk's paycheck when comparing the money they get for football compared to Rutgers.
 

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Where did I state what you said. Goodness, if the standard is being only marginally worse than Greg to retain a coach, then any program that does that has a loser mentality and deserves the results that they obtain.

Perhaps you have heard of the concept of redemption? Do you read major sports publications? Mora has done a nice job of redeeming himself, and his name has been raised as a prospect for a number of P4 head coach openings.

Let me ask you this, and you probably will not answer. Do you think any P4 football programs will be knocking on Greg's door and steal him from Rutgers? I can say categorically that answer is no. On the other hand, Mora is garnering interest. Greg himself likes to say that you can't let the past steal from now. Now matters. Right now, Mora is of interest to several teams. Greg, not so much.
What are you talking about? I never attributed you stated anything. I merely asked you a question. I know you have Schiano derangement syndrome but get it straight. Your efforts to besmurch Schiano get ridiculous if you think Mora can handle the RU job. Unlike you ,I'll answer your question, No. And he's not looking for a job but I know many p4 schools respect what he's done for RU.By the way who said Schiano was a great coach for what support he was given at RU. The people who determine if he stays at RU.
 
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What are you talking about? I never attributed you stated anything. I merely asked you a question. I know you have Schiano derangement syndrome but get it straight. Your efforts to besmurch Schiano get ridiculous if you think Mora can handle the RU job. Unlike you ,I'll answer your question, No. And he's not looking for a job but I know many p4 schools respect what he's done for RU.By the way who said Schiano was a great coach for what support he was given at RU. The people who determine if he stays at RU.
Sir, you think your coined phrase Schiano Derangement Syndrome is cute, but it says more about you and where you are coming from than about the people you label with that silly little phrase. It seems you have a fixation with mediocrity and a fear of factual information. And for a so-called former partner at some company, your grammar and spelling are awful. I have not besmirched Schiano--I have merely set forth factual information and drawn comparisons to other coaches and their records. That is no besmirching. Actually, I have complimented him for some of the aspects of how he has run the program, but you seem to have missed that information.

Again, this is a message board, where fans share their thoughts and opinions for elevation and betterment of the program. Some of us are of the opinion that Jim Mora would be an upgrade based on his past and current record as a head coach. Your answer is not the correct answer. It is just an opinion.

Your last two sentences are unintelligible. Not remotely clear what point you are trying to make.
 

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Let me ask you this, and you probably will not answer. Do you think any P4 football programs will be knocking on Greg's door and steal him from Rutgers? I can say categorically that answer is no. On the other hand, Mora is garnering interest. Greg himself likes to say that you can't let the past steal from now. Now matters. Right now, Mora is of interest to several teams. Greg, not so much.
To start, UConn would hire GS asap to replace Mora. He’d be the #1 choice.
I also think he’d be desirable to BC, UCF, USF, UVa, Temple, Syracuse, Delaware, Maryland
 

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To start, UConn would hire GS asap to replace Mora. He’d be the #1 choice.
I also think he’d be desirable to BC, UCF, USF, UVa, Temple, Syracuse, Delaware, Maryland
I don't disagree. Greg would get hired quickly but just not at his current salary
 
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