Fox shouldn't play tonight.

EliteBlue

Heisman
Mar 27, 2009
16,751
20,269
0
Dress him and play him spot minutes throughout just to get some game minutes before the showdown Saturday
 
  • Like
Reactions: Randy Bob

VikingCat21

All-Conference
Jan 3, 2016
1,726
2,945
57
If he is fine then there is no reason not to play him. If it's still bothering him at all though only play him in an emergency.
 
  • Like
Reactions: EliteBlue

ulismyman

All-Conference
Jan 11, 2015
6,451
3,335
0
We dont need to get cute...he needs to play..no get him ready for Kansas crap...get out there and let it rip
 

Huma1894

Senior
Mar 2, 2006
2,768
644
0
He needs to play if we are to not greatly increase our risk of losing. But don't risk his season.
 

Catzman

Heisman
Apr 29, 2002
17,071
13,647
113
I wouldn't want Kansas being his first action back either. I say if he's still a little sore, just go a little and if we get a big lead sit him or vice versa. I don't want him coming into KU rusty.
 
  • Like
Reactions: TIE543
May 27, 2007
31,887
24,978
113
I trust Cal. If he's even the least bit injured, he won't play and shouldn't.

but if he's ready to go we are certainly better with him than without
 

Lukasz0brzut

All-Conference
Oct 3, 2011
7,105
3,432
90
How many years have we lost a game we did not expect to lose?

Every year. Play him if he can go.
 

Lukasz0brzut

All-Conference
Oct 3, 2011
7,105
3,432
90
A win over Kansas is more important than a win over Tennessee in regards to our chances at a #1 seed

A win over Kansas means nothing if we don't beat UT. After all we could use a good road win.. We don't have many left. I consider this one of the better opportunities given our history against UT.
 
May 27, 2007
31,887
24,978
113
A win over Kansas means nothing if we don't beat UT. After all we could use a good road win.. We don't have many left. I consider this one of the better opportunities given our history against UT.

This is debatable.

A win vs KU/loss vs UT actually might be better than a KU loss/ UT win

They always value the wins more. ALWAYS. UT has an RPI of 60 so it wouldn't really be considered a "bad" loss
 
  • Like
Reactions: RobynL
Apr 15, 2007
19,357
822
0
A win over Kansas means nothing if we don't beat UT. After all we could use a good road win.. We don't have many left. I consider this one of the better opportunities given our history against UT.
You don't understand how computer rankings work if you believe this.

We can lose a few SEC games and still get a one seed as long as we beat Kansas. 30-4 with a win over Kansas and we will almost certainly be a 1. 30-4 and no win over Kansas then maybe we are a 1, but very possibly a 2.
 

Lukasz0brzut

All-Conference
Oct 3, 2011
7,105
3,432
90
You don't understand how computer rankings work if you believe this.

We can lose a few SEC games and still get a one seed as long as we beat Kansas. 30-4 with a win over Kansas and we will almost certainly be a 1. 30-4 and no win over Kansas then maybe we are a 1, but very possibly a 2.

I know how valuable road wins are though. Conference games IMO are more important. Need to win the conference first and foremost
 
May 27, 2007
31,887
24,978
113
Actually I've found zero evidence whatsoever in all the years I've looked at tournament seeding that home/road does in fact matter.

They certainly don't value is like they should.

Look at California last year......7 wins over top 50 RPI...........they got a 4 seed. Committee didn't even bother to care that 6 of those wins were at home. The other on a neutral court.
 

ukgrad83

All-Conference
Sep 26, 2009
931
1,403
0
If we can't beat UT without him, then we don't need to be worrying about being a 1 seed. Sprains linger and I'd rather he sit out this game than risk hurting it again and potentially having issues that last into March. Just my 2¢.
 
  • Like
Reactions: toonces11

toonces11

All-American
Mar 3, 2010
55,225
9,895
0
A loss to Tennessee hurts us more than a loss to Kansas would. If Fox can play at a high level without significant risk of hurting it further, play him.
UTenn is a game above 500 and 2-4 in their last 6....without the leading scorer. Not sure why you guys are that worried about the 8th place team in the SEC. Everything I've read says Fox's ankle injury is minor and no swelling------don't see why he wouldn't play tonight but if it is bothering him than I see no risk in sitting him. UK's C squad should have this one sealed up.
 
  • Like
Reactions: ukgrad83

LineSkiCat14

Heisman
Aug 5, 2015
38,815
60,838
113
Risk assessment. What's the worst case scenario.

Rest Fox: We drop a game to Tennessee and we are back to being a #2 seed, but gives Fox rest with a good chance to beat Kansas, and murky the waters for the #1 seeds.

Don't rest Fox: He rolls his ankle, falls and dies.

No brainer.
 

LineSkiCat14

Heisman
Aug 5, 2015
38,815
60,838
113
UTenn is a game above 500 and 2-4 in their last 6....without the leading scorer. Not sure why you guys are that worried about the 8th place team in the SEC. Everything I've read says Fox's ankle injury is minor and no swelling------don't see why he wouldn't play tonight but if it is bothering him than I see no risk in sitting him. UK's C squad should have this one sealed up.

Because SEC road games are notoriously, and proven, tough to win. SEC has ranked in the top3 in conference like 6 of the last 7 years for home wins. Much more favorable whistle for the home team. I haven't been confident for years now, anytime Cal/Kentucky go on the road in the SEC. We win? Take that W and get the heck out, and maybe thank the basketball Gods.
 

dave5164

All-Conference
Apr 6, 2009
4,119
2,599
0
If the medical staff says he is good to go then I would play him. If you remember when he left the game Saturday evening he was walking around fine. He had a slight limp but overall he came out and tried to run up and down 2 or 3 times. He didn't look that bad except for the slight limp he had from turning the ankle. There was no swelling in the ankle at all so that helps the healing process in the ankle. I think both he and Coach Cal explained it like it was a stinger. I had never heard it explained that way with having a stinger in the ankle but that is what both Coach Cal and Fox said and both said there was no swelling in the ankle. I think most fans and experts get worried when we see the boots on and crutches. It seems now in NCAA Basketball that any player that hurts their foot or ankle they automatically put boots on ASAP and use crutches to keep the weight off the foot and ankle. I say if everyone including the Medical team and coaches say he is ok to go then I would I play him. They say with ankles it is better to get up and get right back on floor and continue to play and that helps the ankle or foot to heal faster. If Fox starts and still doesn't seem to be 100% then rotate him in and out and not play 36-40 minutes. These are young kids and they can bounce right back a lot quicker and with this game being in Tennessee and Kentucky always having a tough game here I would hope Fox gets to play.
 
Nov 27, 2009
21,246
21,450
0
 
Nov 15, 2008
38,645
57,515
0
If he's healthy I give him game action for continuity but limit his minutes.

I'd ask him to take on the role of purely an assist guy tonight and hone those true point guard skills
as Bam is going to have his way down low tonight - they will have no answer.
 
  • Like
Reactions: LineSkiCat14

Comebakatz3

Heisman
Aug 8, 2008
43,302
33,275
113
If he is able to go out in practice and practice hard and cut and all of that then sitting him for this game won't help anything. If he isn't able to do those things in practice then he doesn't need to be in a game and resting him would be the better option. Simple answer is if he can go full speed and is going full speed in practice then there is no reason that he can't go full speed in a game. He isn't really any more or less likely to get hurt in one or the other. If he is just taking it lightly in practice then don't push it and wait until he is closer to 100% and can play full speed.
 

katwest

Heisman
Feb 16, 2003
39,834
13,688
113
There are a lot of good points on here, not sure what I would do, If he has been examined by the team doctor and he gives the ok, I would play him. But on the other hand what if he tweaks it again while it is a little weak maybe. I don't know. He will know real quick whether he can go hard or not, guess we will see.
 

Goingfor9

All-Conference
Jan 27, 2003
16,039
2,813
113
If he's cleared to play he needs to be playing. Time off can be worse than the initial injury.