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Michigan had the ball before forward progress was supposedly stopped, which isn't apparent. Had he broken through as the whistle was being blown and then scored, you'd be bitching that a TD was stolen. The videos from all angles plainly show the opposite of what you think. Dig in your heels all you want, but objectively you are wrong.
Perhaps it was "joint possession?"
 

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You mean like when the defense runs up to the line and back out, over and over...

Or when the QB yells out really hard to try and get guys to jump

Or when the offense using hard motion to get guys to jump.

Or when the DL switches spots really fast to try and get the OL to react.

Being a virgin is one thing but thinking that this **** doesn't go on to gain an advantage just makes you look like you are, what was it, "new to football"
Lol you’re reaching really hard, the defense trying to get the Offense to jump by imitating the snap count is and has always been an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. Your examples aren’t in anyway similar and have never been illegal.
 

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Michigan had the ball before forward progress was supposedly stopped, which isn't apparent. Had he broken through as the whistle was being blown and then scored, you'd be bitching that a TD was stolen. The videos from all angles plainly show the opposite of what you think. Dig in your heels all you want, but objectively you are wrong.
Dig in all you want but there are sportscasters outside of Nebraska that say otherwise. Tim Brando, not a husker fan, espn guys, just reread the entire thread and you will see that it wasn’t as cut and dried as you make it out to be. And this isn’t me being a homer. This is backed up by other people who know football and call games.
 

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Lol you’re reaching really hard, the defense trying to get the Offense to jump by imitating the snap count is and has always been an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. Your examples aren’t in anyway similar and have never been illegal.
Yeah they are, QB's get flagged for using excessive head movement.

Look, I am saying none of it should be "illegal". If you can't coach your team to not fall for ****, that is on you.
 

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Dig in all you want but there are sportscasters outside of Nebraska that say otherwise. Tim Brando, not a husker fan, espn guys, just reread the entire thread and you will see that it wasn’t as cut and dried as you make it out to be. And this isn’t me being a homer. This is backed up by other people who know football and call games.
It’s also not some crazy officiating mistake, Martinez was still churning his legs for extra yardage when the ball came out. There’s a reason you play to the whistle and that’s exactly what TM was doing by trying for extra yardage, he should’ve held on to the ball while going for more yardage.
 

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It’s also not some crazy officiating mistake, Martinez was still churning his legs for extra yardage when the ball came out. There’s a reason you play to the whistle and that’s exactly what TM was doing by trying for extra yardage, he should’ve held on to the ball while going for more yardage.
So, are you a Husker fan? A Michigan fan? Or a fan of the refs. I really can't tell.
 

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Yeah they are, QB's get flagged for using excessive head movement.

Look, I am saying none of it should be "illegal". If you can't coach your team to not fall for ****, that is on you.
Youre initial comment said a hard snap count, not “excessive head movement”. again though imitating the snap count is and has always been a penalty.
 

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It’s also not some crazy officiating mistake, Martinez was still churning his legs for extra yardage when the ball came out. There’s a reason you play to the whistle and that’s exactly what TM was doing by trying for extra yardage, he should’ve held on to the ball while going for more yardage.
No one is saying he shouldn’t have held onto the ball. Everyone knows you play to the whistle. But there is also an expectation that the refs will blow the whistle when progress is stopped. They always do. Well, almost always.
 

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No one is saying he shouldn’t have held onto the ball. Everyone knows you play to the whistle. But there is also an expectation that the refs will blow the whistle when progress is stopped. They always do. Well, almost always.
your beef should be with TM, stop picking up extra yardage and fall to your knees if you’re not gonna hang on to the ball. It was a bang bang play where the whistle hadn’t blown the play dead, he was still moving forward (albeit not very swiftly) when the ball came out. The angle that shows the Hutchinson hit was clean shows how quick it was
 

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Good thing you’re not a rules official. You must be new to football, the defense trying to induce all false start by imitating the snap count has always been a flag (generally it’s an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty). It’s bush league

You must have missed the actual video, as that wasn’t what Reimer was doing at all. Now Harbaugh’s whining on the other hand is the very definition of Bush League.

 

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Again, I don't care. It should all be fair game. Which I am sure you agree.
Yea might as well do away with penalties all together.
You must have missed the actual video, as that wasn’t what Reimer was doing at all. Now Harbaugh’s whining on the other hand is the very definition of Bush League.


when he did it and drew multiple false starts up to that point, it’s a problem. You can say “that wasn’t what he was doing” which is
1. B.S., he didn’t do it until the OLine was set, he knew what he was doing.
2. Doesn’t make a difference, it’s still a penalty to imitate that snap count.
 

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Yea might as well do away with penalties all together.

when he did it and drew multiple false starts up to that point, it’s a problem. You can say “that wasn’t what he was doing” which is
1. B.S., he didn’t do it until the OLine was set, he knew what he was doing.
2. Doesn’t make a difference, it’s still a penalty to imitate that snap count.
So you do agree, why are you arguing with me then??
 

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your beef should be with TM, stop picking up extra yardage and fall to your knees if you’re not gonna hang on to the ball. It was a bang bang play where the whistle hadn’t blown the play dead, he was still moving forward (albeit not very swiftly) when the ball came out. The angle that shows the Hutchinson hit was clean shows how quick it was
Can you tell me the exact moment the Michigan RB’s forward progress was stopped 2 plays later?

Of course AM needed to hold on. But the refs lack of consistency is frustrating. You’re telling me if the roles were reversed, you would be objective and say, the refs nailed it. Good job refs!

Not by a country mile.
 

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Yea might as well do away with penalties all together.

when he did it and drew multiple false starts up to that point, it’s a problem. You can say “that wasn’t what he was doing” which is
1. B.S., he didn’t do it until the OLine was set, he knew what he was doing.
2. Doesn’t make a difference, it’s still a penalty to imitate that snap count.
Is your fear that one day Michigan will be playing a team that has defenders with the last names of

Hut
Hike
Red 80
Set-Go
and
OnOneOnOne
 

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Yea might as well do away with penalties all together.

when he did it and drew multiple false starts up to that point, it’s a problem. You can say “that wasn’t what he was doing” which is
1. B.S., he didn’t do it until the OLine was set, he knew what he was doing.
2. Doesn’t make a difference, it’s still a penalty to imitate that snap count.

Wow. Really digging your heels in on being clueless. Despite actual video evidence. Impressive.
 

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Can you tell me the exact moment the Michigan RB’s forward progress was stopped 2 plays later?

Of course AM needed to hold on. But the refs lack of consistency is frustrating. You’re telling me if the roles were reversed, you would be objective and say, the refs nailed it. Good job refs!

Not by a country mile.
No I’m saying if the roles were reversed you’d say it was a good call as the guy was still moving forward. I don’t recall the situation you’re talking about did the RB fumble the ball?
 

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To the michigan/ref fan that keeps posting, you are not changing minds here and we are not changing yours. So just head back to your Michigan site and/or Referee site and post.
 

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No I’m saying if the roles were reversed you’d say it was a good call as the guy was still moving forward. I don’t recall the situation you’re talking about did the RB fumble the ball?
Nebraska defenders weren’t even given a chance to stand him up and try to strip the ball. They stopped him for a millisecond, then he rotated off the tackler moving forward again. Nebraska player was holding on but being dragged… other players were trying to get close to attempt to strip the ball, and the refs blew the whistle. It is what made my blood boil. The fumble by Martinez was close but I wasn’t surprised completely. Then this play happened and it was atrocious. I’m not gonna say the refs wanted Michigan to win, but when this happens in nearly back to back plays, it kind of sucks.
 

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No I’m saying if the roles were reversed you’d say it was a good call as the guy was still moving forward. I don’t recall the situation you’re talking about did the RB fumble the ball?
Now reverse the roles. If that was your QB, would you be thinking forward progress was stopped?
 

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Now reverse the roles. If that was your QB, would you be thinking forward progress was stopped?
Honestly I probably would, though I’d really mad at my senior QB for letting go of the football prior to the whistle. I wouldn’t be blaming a loss on it (not saying you are @timnsun)
 

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Nice sidestep. You can't explain it because it's glaringly obvious Michigan was benefiting from them calling it very differently the other way. And literally a just few plays later when the progress was not nearly as securely stopped but defenders were swarming.

If a game is fairly called, things this glaring shouldn't me called differently.

Put a different way, when it comes to holding and PI, people usually take the approach of "as long as they call it consistently both ways, ot is what it is." Some officiating crews are lax on one or the other and let the teams play, and that's normal. Heck, I yelled about holds a few times tonight but they were pretty even handed on not calling them either way.

But on nearly identical crucial plays occurring very close to one another in game time, having two very different standards is inexcusable.
Quick question... how many players need to be on the line of scrimmage for it to be a legal formation? 7, right?
 

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AA is the worst road trip we have been on. Not the fans, they were fine but the place is soooooo lame
michigan fans are huge pussies

they were incredibly friendly as we beat their brains in in 2013 in the big house, which is very quiet

no clue why they're included in the ranks of actual blue bloods, having never accomplished anything
 

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michigan fans are huge pussies

they were incredibly friendly as we beat their brains in in 2013 in the big house, which is very quiet

no clue why they're included in the ranks of actual blue bloods, having never accomplished anything
I will say Nebraska fans were really nice in 2018 after their team got there sh*t pushed in by 46 points.