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yunginsNU2

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Yet we still have posters acting like this is fine or that we somehow deserve to have to overcome **** like this. Maddening.
Dont worry im sure we will send in a complaint to the Big and they will look into it and will issue an apology like they did earlier this year with zero accountibility held... were sorry we missed these calls and we suck we promise to do better.
 

Huskerfan2112

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Go back to the Iowa/Nebraska game 2019. Iowa is driving late and Mehki Sargent is stacked up and the ball is stripped in the same circumstance. Ask yourself if that one was ok. If so, this one was ok. If it wasn’t, Iowa was screwed. It happens every game.
Why are you here? Why are you the way that you are?
 

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Reggie Smith sucks as a ref and always F's us. I am sure he gets extra pay for doing it and protecting the sh*thole big 10.
 

ivan brunetti

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1) Defensive delay of game.
2) Joint possession.
3) Phantom PI.
4) Snapping the ball after the play clock hit 0.
5) men in the backfield called on Nebraska when there weren’t.
6) Flag waived off on Michigan when they had 5 in the back field.
7) Letting Michigan strip the ball long after forward progress was stopped.
1) no clapping for the defense is a known rule, I have seen it called before; and you got away with it a couple of times causing Michigan to jump before finally getting shut down
2) again, another rule; just because you didn't know it doesn't make it wrong
3) this ain't EA NBA 88 and your linebacker isn't Karl Malone who gets to set picks 20 yards from the LOS
4) legit, but refs miss calls like this in every game; on the interception Nebraska made, a Husker player was arguably offsides
5) there were five
6) there weren't five
7) you play until you hear the whistle, not just until you THINK there should be a whistle

Fans are fans. Every fanbase is the same. In every heartbreaking loss some fans will feel compelled to go over every play frame by frame Zapruder style and find everything the refs may have called or not called that hurt their team (while ignoring close calls & non calls that hurt their opponent).
 
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Mack In Motion

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This game was lost by us giving away possession after possession in the first half.

Just gave them away.

Yes, you have to keep them honest. But they were absolutely stuffing Johnson in between the tackles. And we went there over and over and over.

You can't wait for AM to win the game at the end. If he was ever going to do that, he would have done so by now.
 
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54T

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Since when have refs- in any sport, at any level - ever been consistent?
The ump seems to to have a different strike zone for their pitcher vs our pitcher.
The ref lets them get away with tons of contact in the paint, while calling “touch fouls” on our guys.

If you are waiting for consistent officiating, it’s never going to happen. The fans will always have some calls to point to, and gripe about. Just hang onto the dang ball!
 

TampaBaySkers

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Go back to the Iowa/Nebraska game 2019. Iowa is driving late and Mehki Sargent is stacked up and the ball is stripped in the same circumstance. Ask yourself if that one was ok. If so, this one was ok. If it wasn’t, Iowa was screwed. It happens every game.

I assume you also think Iowa should of received a roughing the passer for the driving tackle that hurt PSU qb, correct?
 

Headcard

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1) no clapping for the defense is a known rule, I have seen it called before; and you got away with it a couple of times causing Michigan to jump before finally getting shut down
2) again, another rule; just because you didn't know it doesn't make it wrong
3) this ain't EA NBA 88 and your linebacker isn't Karl Malone who gets to set picks 20 yards from the LOS
4) legit, but refs miss calls like this in every game; on the interception Nebraska made, a Husker player was arguably offsides
5) there were five
6) there weren't five
7) you play until you hear the whistle, not just until you THINK there should be a whistle

Fans are fans. Every fanbase is the same. In every heartbreaking loss some fans will feel compelled to go over every play frame by frame Zapruder style and find everything the refs may have called or not called that hurt their team (while ignoring close calls & non calls that hurt their opponent).

Oh boy, you are still here. Might as well learn something about football while you’re trolling.

1). Give me a break, it’s never called and that isn’t even what he was doing. Iowa was doing this to Nebraska last year and was politely asked to stop at halftime. Odd.

2). ******** and you know. Bailed UM out. A flat out gift.

3). Complete BS receiver stopped his route QB threw the ball away. 100% blown call.

4). Hilarious a 4 point gift (in a 3 point game) is just written off as “it happens”. Doesn’t seem to happen both ways…

5). See pic below, assuming you can count to 5.

6). See pic below, again assuming you can count to 5.




7). It should have been blown dead and was for UM the next possession. The talking heads on ESPN we’re saying it should have been blown dead. It is not OK to just ignore a rule like forward progress, even if you like who benefited.
 
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HuskerAlum92

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The fact of the matter is this team really knows how to lose games, and it’s quite good at it. How about for once, just once, overcome whatever happens and just win a game against a team with a pulse. I couldn’t care less about officiating calls.
 

RiLLLLLLLLey

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The fact of the matter is this team really knows how to lose games, and it’s quite good at it. How about for once, just once, overcome whatever happens and just win a game against a team with a pulse. I couldn’t care less about officiating calls.
The phantom PI ultimately resulted in a 15-yard gain, a first down, and a touchdown. No call, and Michigan settles for a field goal. At best.
 

Headcard

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Zapruder away my friend. If Michigan had lost, some of our fans would be blaming the refs just like you are.

I mean I’m showing you specific pics and specific instances. Nothing wrong with admitting you benefited from the above, its not like it’s really even debatable.
 

Headcard

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Boo hoo, get a tissue. Calls go against the other teams too. Winning teams overcome, and we do not.

What a freaking load of ****. Huge blown call putting points on the board for the other team. Winning teams score more points and they were gifted points in a one possession game. That’s not OK.
 

HuskerAlum92

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Way to speak in generalities, clichés, and avoid the specifics of the conversation.
Calls go against both teams. End of conversation. This team can’t overcome simple things like clapping or odd vs even fronts, so it’s hardly surprising that they can’t overcome what constitutes typical officiating.
 

RiLLLLLLLLey

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Calls go against both teams. End of conversation. This team can’t overcome simple things like clapping or odd vs even fronts, so it’s hardly surprising that they can’t overcome what constitutes typical officiating.
Disconcerting signals and joint possession are typical calls? Apparently I need to watch a whoooole lot more football then. Because I've honestly never seen it called in a game.

Look, I agree with you that a lot of our miscues this year have been self-inflicted. But to say last night was not a complete anomaly, officiating-wise, is ridiculous.

***Edit***

After seeing the other angle, the hit on Martinez didn't seem dirty.
 
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Thetruth82

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Disconcerting signals and joint possession are typical calls? Apparently I need to watch a whoooole lot more football then. Because I've honestly never seen it called in a game.

Look, I agree with you that a lot of our miscues this year have been self-inflicted. But to say last night was not a complete anomaly, officiating-wise, is ridiculous.

Perhaps the biggest "miscue" of the game was the fumble. A fumble where a Michigan DL dove directly into Martinez's knees, well after Martinez was stood up. The player wasn't even in the play; it was past him. He literally had time to get up, cock back, and dive superman-style into Martinez's knees. That wasn't called. And the dude should be suspended.
Any clap to try to draw a false start is a penalty , the defense clearly got away with a few before the penalty call.
97 Clearly Didn’t “dive at his knees” FOH with that. Martinez just needs to take better care of the football
 

ivan brunetti

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Clearly Didn’t “dive at his knees” Martinez needs to take better care of the football


Since offensive linemen are allowed to push the pile these days (still pisses off ND fans when it is referred to as a "Bush Push"), the whistle won't blow as quickly as in the past.
 

timnsun

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Any clap to try to draw a false start is a penalty , the defense clearly got away with a few before the penalty call.
97 Clearly Didn’t “dive at his knees” FOH with that. Martinez just needs to take better care of the football

Thanks for posting this. Hadn’t seen another angle. The angle shown on TV looked bad, for sure. This angle tells a different story at least.
 

timnsun

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Since offensive linemen are allowed to push the pile these days (still pisses off ND fans when it is referred to as a "Bush Push"), the whistle won't blow as quickly as in the past.
I agree the the long pause before the whistle isn’t unusual. But the whistle on your RB the next drive before Nebraska even had a chance to go for the strip seemed puzzling, no?
 

ivan brunetti

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I agree the the long pause before the whistle isn’t unusual. But the whistle on your RB the next drive before Nebraska even had a chance to go for the strip seemed puzzling, no?

If you look at every play and time every whistle down to the millisecond I am sure you can find all kinds of irregularities to fit your theory.

How about when the refs attempted to short a Michigan run by FOUR yards to keep a first down from occurring? Or when the refs wouldn't give Michigan time to sub in players and get set after a late Husker substitution? "PROOF of ref bias!!!"
 

RiLLLLLLLLey

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Any clap to try to draw a false start is a penalty , the defense clearly got away with a few before the penalty call.
97 Clearly Didn’t “dive at his knees” FOH with that. Martinez just needs to take better care of the football

Hadn't seen that angle. Redacted.
 

timnsun

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If you look at every play and time every whistle down to the millisecond I am sure you can find all kinds of irregularities to fit your theory.

How about when the refs attempted to short a Michigan run by FOUR yards to keep a first down from occurring? Or when the refs wouldn't give Michigan time to sub in players and get set after a late Husker substitution? "PROOF of ref bias!!!"
No doubt, the calls go both ways. The issue with husker fans (rightly or wrongly) is that if we brought a list of grievances to the table and you brought a list of grievances to the table, it would tilt heavily in Nebraska’s favor as far as bad calls go.

It’s part of the game, I absolutely get that. And the calls do go both ways. I just wish it was more balanced. And yes, I am biased, so maybe I missed a lot of calls that should have gone Michigan’s way but didn’t. I admit that.
 

Thetruth82

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No doubt, the calls go both ways. The issue with husker fans (rightly or wrongly) is that if we brought a list of grievances to the table and you brought a list of grievances to the table, it would tilt heavily in Nebraska’s favor as far as bad calls go.

It’s part of the game, I absolutely get that. And the calls do go both ways. I just wish it was more balanced. And yes, I am biased, so maybe I missed a lot of calls that should have gone Michigan’s way but didn’t. I admit that.
I think you’re underestimating the amount of bad calls any fan could find that go against their respective teams.
 

RiLLLLLLLLey

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Any clap to try to draw a false start is a penalty , the defense clearly got away with a few before the penalty call.
Again, I've never heard "disconcerting signals" uttered by a ref in all my 42 years on this earth. Nor "joint possession" in football.
 

Thetruth82

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Again, I've never heard "disconcerting signals" uttered by a ref in all my 42 years on this earth. Nor "joint possession" in football.
We’ll they’ve called a delay of game penalty on defenses for the same thing for years. I think you’re getting a little too hung up on the “disconcerting signals” description.
Joint possession is generally something that happens when a receiver and DB both have possession of the football, the ball goes to the offense. I assume that’s what happened here they both equally possessed the ball, so the ball goes to the offense.
 

ivan brunetti

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Incorrectly, yes. I mean you can’t even count to 5 so…….
 

Husker88

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Reminds me of our '92 and '93 teams.

Penalties and calls always went against us because we were always a half step short, or hair shy.

That '94 Orange Bowl loss was the epitome of **** awful calls, and we still nearly pulled it off.

Charlie Ward got those personal foul calls on the sideline because we were always chasing and playing catch up. The goal line Floyd fumble, the phantom clip, it was as bad as we've ever had.

I'll never blame any loss on the refs. That '94 Orange Bowl set the standard. No matter what happens, win the next play.
 

TampaBaySkers

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We’ll they’ve called a delay of game penalty on defenses for the same thing for years. I think you’re getting a little too hung up on the “disconcerting signals” description.
Joint possession is generally something that happens when a receiver and DB both have possession of the football, the ball goes to the offense. I assume that’s what happened here they both equally possessed the ball, so the ball goes to the offense.

Wasn’t Nebraska the offense?
 

HuskerPower10

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Zapruder away my friend. If Michigan had lost, some of our fans would be blaming the refs just like you are.
Will Harbaigh have the balls to take action against Hutchinson for his blatant cheap shot? Bush league as it comes….. my guess is Jim is probably proud of it.
 

TampaBaySkers

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1) no clapping for the defense is a known rule, I have seen it called before; and you got away with it a couple of times causing Michigan to jump before finally getting shut down
2) again, another rule; just because you didn't know it doesn't make it wrong
3) this ain't EA NBA 88 and your linebacker isn't Karl Malone who gets to set picks 20 yards from the LOS
4) legit, but refs miss calls like this in every game; on the interception Nebraska made, a Husker player was arguably offsides
5) there were five
6) there weren't five
7) you play until you hear the whistle, not just until you THINK there should be a whistle

Fans are fans. Every fanbase is the same. In every heartbreaking loss some fans will feel compelled to go over every play frame by frame Zapruder style and find everything the refs may have called or not called that hurt their team (while ignoring close calls & non calls that hurt their opponent).

3) defenders run pick plays? Interesting….

Go back to Eastern Europe and watch some soccer douchebag.