Forward progress whistle

[BigB87]

OK, so at the end of the game we pissed it away when we had a chance. That is on AM and the coaching staff.

BUT

If you think we weren't playing against a stacked deck, watch the play where AM was stripped and pay attention to how long he was stopped and having the ball ripped at.

Then watch the play on the following drive where we stood up their RB and started ripping. Whistles were blown almost instantaneously when he got stood up.

We had a chance to win it and blew it, but son of a gun the officiating crew did everything they could to make it more difficult.

 

[redfanusa]

OK, so at the end of the game we pissed it away when we had a chance. That is on AM and the coaching staff.

BUT

If you think we weren't playing against a stacked deck, watch the play where AM was stripped and pay attention to how long he was stopped and having the ball ripped at.

Then watch the play on the following drive where we stood up their RB and started ripping. Whistles were blown almost instantaneously when he got stood up.

We had a chance to win it and blew it, but son of a gun the officiating crew did everything they could to make it more difficult.

This is exactly what I'm whining about. They swallowed their whistles while the QUARTERBACK was defenseless, yet were so anxious to blow it for the Michigan ball-carrier that they did it before he was even down.

 

[beerdawg69]

OK, so at the end of the game we pissed it away when we had a chance. That is on AM and the coaching staff.

BUT

If you think we weren't playing against a stacked deck, watch the play where AM was stripped and pay attention to how long he was stopped and having the ball ripped at.

Then watch the play on the following drive where we stood up their RB and started ripping. Whistles were blown almost instantaneously when he got stood up.

We had a chance to win it and blew it, but son of a gun the officiating crew did everything they could to make it more difficult.

Said same thing. Whistle blew real quick on Michigan 2nd down. Officials were absolutely horrible tonight. That pi call on Jojo sums it up

 

[BigB87]

Said same thing. Whistle blew real quick on Michigan 2nd down. Officials were absolutely horrible tonight. That pi call on Jojo sums it up

.
What confused me about that one too was placing it at the 3, as though it occurred in the end zone. Or was it within 15 yards so it was a spot foul? The second one would make sense but I thought it was farther out.

 

[SWIowahawks_rivals44758]

Go back to the Iowa/Nebraska game 2019. Iowa is driving late and Mehki Sargent is stacked up and the ball is stripped in the same circumstance. Ask yourself if that one was ok. If so, this one was ok. If it wasn’t, Iowa was screwed. It happens every game.

 

[Clevinger_rivals246724]

I can’t put it on the refs. Our team simply doesn’t know how to win. We specialize in moral victories with gut wrenching endings.

 

[jteten]

Maybe, probably, but for Christ’s sake, hold on to the ball. That’s in his control, not the whistle.

 

[Headcard]

OK, so at the end of the game we pissed it away when we had a chance. That is on AM and the coaching staff.

BUT

If you think we weren't playing against a stacked deck, watch the play where AM was stripped and pay attention to how long he was stopped and having the ball ripped at.

Then watch the play on the following drive where we stood up their RB and started ripping. Whistles were blown almost instantaneously when he got stood up.

We had a chance to win it and blew it, but son of a gun the officiating crew did everything they could to make it more difficult.

Defensive delay of game.
Joint possession.
Phantom PI.
Snapping the ball after the play clock hit 0.
5 men in the backfield called on Nebraska when there weren’t.
Flag waived off on Michigan when they had 5 in the back field.
Letting Michigan strip the ball long after forward progress was stopped.

 

[Headcard]

I can’t put it on the refs. Our team simply doesn’t know how to win. We specialize in moral victories with gut wrenching endings.

I can and will. We were absolutely ****** by the officials from the word go. We almost overcome it, but didn’t.

 

[timnsun]

OK, so at the end of the game we pissed it away when we had a chance. That is on AM and the coaching staff.

BUT

If you think we weren't playing against a stacked deck, watch the play where AM was stripped and pay attention to how long he was stopped and having the ball ripped at.

Then watch the play on the following drive where we stood up their RB and started ripping. Whistles were blown almost instantaneously when he got stood up.

We had a chance to win it and blew it, but son of a gun the officiating crew did everything they could to make it more difficult.

I yelled the exact same thing to my wife!!! I generally don’t join in on ref bashing on this board, but that was so bogus!!! Pissed me off more than all the rest of the night!

 

[BigB87]

Go back to the Iowa/Nebraska game 2019. Iowa is driving late and Mehki Sargent is stacked up and the ball is stripped in the same circumstance. Ask yourself if that one was ok. If so, this one was ok. If it wasn’t, Iowa was screwed. It happens every game.

If it is called evenly both ways, it is what it is and it sucks to be on the losing end of it but I understand it.

My issue is within about a minute in game time it was called very differently going the other way. Was I pissed that Martinez go stripped? Yep, but I could at least understand it. When they blew the whistle insanely quick when we were swarming to their RB, THAT'S what made me livid.

 

[Bonerfarts]

Please. If AM moves the pack 2 more yards and doesn’t fumble no one complains about the call. He was still moving forward. Quit blaming refs, hold on to the F’n ball.

 

[timnsun]

If it is called evenly both ways, it is what it is and it sucks to be on the losing end of it but I understand it.

My issue is within about a minute in game time it was called very differently going the other way. Was I pissed that Martinez go stripped? Yep, but I could at least understand it. When they blew the whistle insanely quick when we were swarming to their RB, THAT'S what made me livid.

Can’t like this enough!!!

 

[timnsun]

Please. If AM moves the pack 2 more yards and doesn’t fumble no one complains about the call. He was still moving forward. Quit blaming refs, hold on to the F’n ball.

No he wasn’t still moving forward, yes, he still needs to hold on to the ball, and yes, you still suck.

That cover it?

 

[BigB87]

Please. If AM moves the pack 2 more yards and doesn’t fumble no one complains about the call. He was still moving forward. Quit blaming refs, hold on to the F’n ball.

Again, if it is called consistently I don't have a huge problem with it. I don't like it, but thats football.

Watch the other play I talked about and tell me it wasn't called VERY differently the other way.

 

[Bonerfarts]

No he wasn’t still moving forward, yes, he still needs to hold on to the ball, and yes, you still suck.

That cover it?

Look at his feet. You need to take off your self pity glasses.

 

[timnsun]

Look at his feet. You need to take off your self pity glasses.

Great angle bucko, how can I look at his feet with that clip?

And yeah, you still suck.

 

[cubsker_rivals142943]

Clip is pretty worthless. Same view I had in the stadium and you can't see ****.

 

[BigB87]

Look at his feet. You need to take off your self pity glasses.

Looks alot like when their RB was still fighting for yards but stopped shortly after. But, ya know, our guys weren't allowed to rip at the ball because they literally blew the whistle the second his progress stopped.

I don't know if people are just ignoring the second play I referenced, but the whole point is an almost identical play was called differently. Their RB actually almost looked like he was starting to escape, but can't let him risk fumbling it.

In a vacuum the Martinez strip is frustrating but understandable, but it didn't occur in a vacuum.

 

[Swiv3D]

Honestly with all the bad calls that were happening tonight, I didn't feel like this fumble play was one of them. He just needed to not fumble and go down. Also don't feel like Martinez lost us the game with this play. We had other chances and didn't capitalize. It's how football goes, and I'm numb to the close losses. It just sucks man

 

[BigB87]

Honestly with all the bad calls that were happening tonight, I didn't feel like this fumble play was one of them. He just needed to not fumble and go down.

As I said, in a vacuum I agree. But when their RB was stopped similarly a few plays later and they blow it dead instantly, the call ceased to occur in a vacuum.

 

[Bonerfarts]

Clip is pretty worthless. Same view I had in the stadium and you can't see ****.

Can’t see **** but everyone is “sure” progress was stopped. It’s easy to see if you’re not biased.

 

[schuele]

I can’t put it on the refs. Our team simply doesn’t know how to win. We specialize in moral victories with gut wrenching endings.

I thought the officiating late in the first half was atrocious, and probably cost NU four points (Michigan TD vs. FG). But, no complaints about the second half. Huskers were in position to win and just couldn't finish.

 

[BigB87]

Can’t see **** but everyone is “sure” progress was stopped. It’s easy to if your not biased.

Can you address why it was called differently the other way a few plays later? THAT is the point of this whole thing, and you haven't really addressed that.

 

[BigB87]

For reference, the play with their RB occurred at about 1:38 left in the 4th quarter since nobody arguing seems to have even addressed it.

 

[Swiv3D]

For reference, the play with their RB occurred at about 1:38 left in the 4th quarter since nobody arguing seems to have even addressed it.

Officiating doesn't run on set precedent, it's a game not a court of law. You can absolutely make a case that they didn't need to blow the whistle quite yet and that's all that matters

 

[timnsun]

For reference, the play with their RB occurred at about 1:38 left in the 4th quarter since nobody arguing seems to have even addressed it.

I’m totally with you. So bad… made no sense to me.

 

[timnsun]

Officiating doesn't run on set precedent, it's a game not a court of law. You can absolutely make a case that they didn't need to blow the whistle quite yet and that's all that matters

We are making the case that they didn’t need to blow the whistle yet on the Michigan RB. This isn’t hard…

 

[hawksurprize]

Those damn refs, shakes fist at Sky

 

[BigB87]

Officiating doesn't run on set precedent, it's a game not a court of law. You can absolutely make a case that they didn't need to blow the whistle quite yet and that's all that matters

Nice sidestep. You can't explain it because it's glaringly obvious Michigan was benefiting from them calling it very differently the other way. And literally a just few plays later when the progress was not nearly as securely stopped but defenders were swarming.

If a game is fairly called, things this glaring shouldn't me called differently.

Put a different way, when it comes to holding and PI, people usually take the approach of "as long as they call it consistently both ways, ot is what it is." Some officiating crews are lax on one or the other and let the teams play, and that's normal. Heck, I yelled about holds a few times tonight but they were pretty even handed on not calling them either way.

But on nearly identical crucial plays occurring very close to one another in game time, having two very different standards is inexcusable.

 

[Swiv3D]

We are making the case that they didn’t need to blow the whistle yet on the Michigan RB. This isn’t hard…

I know and I'm saying that's not the right way to look at it. Look the refs sucked but I don't think we lost because of the refs. Those 2 plays are separate and neither are black and white calls to make. It's football, we had ourselves set up to overcome the adversity at the end, and came up short.

 

[Swiv3D]

Nice sidestep. You can't explain it because it's glaringly obvious Michigan was benefiting from them calling it very differently the other way. And literally a just few plays later when the progress was not nearly as securely stopped but defenders were swarming.

If a game is fairly called, things this glaring shouldn't me called differently.

Put a different way, when it comes to holding and PI, people usually take the approach of "as long as they call it consistently both ways, ot is what it is." Some officiating crews are lax on one or the other and let the teams play, and that's normal. Heck, I yelled about holds a few times tonight but they were pretty even handed on not calling them either way.

But on nearly identical crucial plays occurring very close to one another in game time, having two very different standards is inexcusable.

Yeah I can see we're not gonna change each other's minds on this

 

[egaRdeR]

Can you address why it was called differently the other way a few plays later? THAT is the point of this whole thing, and you haven't really addressed that.

Your first mistake is arguing with a guy with a name of 'bonerfarts'. That should tell you all you need to know.

 

[timnsun]

I know and I'm saying that's not the right way to look at it. Look the refs sucked but I don't think we lost because of the refs. Those 2 plays are separate and neither are black and white calls to make. It's football, we had ourselves set up to overcome the adversity at the end, and came up short.

I don’t disagree, mostly, we shouldn’t have it come down to an AM fumble. He needs to hold onto it. Period.

But is it wrong to ask for consistency? Totally inconsistent between the 2 plays.

 

[99_BoothBalloons]

There is no way the whistle should’ve been blown. He was not being stood up long before the fumble. Definitely a fumble, and completely inexcusable from a veteran player who we consistently give a pass to.

 

[Headcard]

Can’t see **** but everyone is “sure” progress was stopped. It’s easy to see if you’re not biased.

You are not unbiased Mr. Troll.

 

[Swiv3D]

I don’t disagree, mostly, we shouldn’t have it come down to an AM fumble. He needs to hold onto it. Period.

But is it wrong to ask for consistency? Totally inconsistent between the 2 plays.

No, it's not wrong and I'm frustrated too man

 

[yunginsNU2]

Defensive delay of game.
Joint possession.
Phantom PI.
Snapping the ball after the play clock hit 0.
5 men in the backfield called on Nebraska when there weren’t.
Flag waived off on Michigan when they had 5 in the back field.
Letting Michigan strip the ball long after forward progress was stopped.

Go back and look at the refs spots... calling 1st downs no measurements.. just move the chains for good ol blue... even the announcsrs were perplexed on how the ref moved his foot 3 times untill he finally passed the qst down .arker... all game long

 

[Headcard]

Go back and look at the refs spots... calling 1st downs no measurements.. just move the chains for good ol blue... even the announcsrs were perplexed on how the ref moved his foot 3 times untill he finally passed the qst down .arker... all game long

Yet we still have posters acting like this is fine or that we somehow deserve to have to overcome **** like this. Maddening.

 

[BigB87]

There is no way the whistle should’ve been blown. He was not being stood up long before the fumble. Definitely a fumble, and completely inexcusable from a veteran player who we consistently give a pass to.

Again, that call is justifiable until a few plays later it was called completely differently going the other direction. This isn't about a single play, but two nearly identical plays treated vastly differently.