Florida fires Billy Napier

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Can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube when it comes to coaches pay. But we do control what we pay Rhule and I don’t think it needs to be increased over the contract he has. He isn’t worth additional right now.
If 10 spots come open, which is likely, Rhule is on more than a few lists.

The entire money deal, well I said what I thought of it.
 
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Lol at Tony White
I’m so confused why he didn’t stay put one more year and become a head coach.

and then he took the Nebraska job.

and then I was confused he didn’t stay put one more year and become a head coach.

And then he took the Florida state job.

What an impatient dude when staying put would have gotten him to the role he wanted.
 
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It’s going to turn into nfl where coaches are all recycled through different programs. Fans will be perpetually mad with who the new hire is. Gonna suck
Ummm… we already do that here (immediately) if the coach isn’t a product of program inbreeding
 

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Ummm… we already do that here (immediately) if the coach isn’t a product of program inbreeding
I mean in general. NFL teams hire fired coaches all the time. There’s just a lot of turnover and a small pool of people. College will become that shortly. Guys like Napier, Lincoln Riley, Brian Kelly, Franklin will get fired and land on their feet at another good to great program. People will ***** that they couldn’t win somewhere else so why should we hire him? And it’ll happen over and over.
 
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redwine65

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seems like Penn State stealing rhule from us and then we hire the asu coach is inevitable at this point.
it's just the way the system is now
 
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seems like Penn State stealing rhule from us and then we hire the asu coach is inevitable at this point.
it's just the way the system is now

I know you have A LOT more inside info than you let on sometimes. But what’s with all this “stealing Rhule” crap?
 

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seems like Penn State stealing rhule from us and then we hire the asu coach is inevitable at this point.
it's just the way the system is now
Why do you believe Dillingham will leave his Alma mater? I could see him doing it only for an opportunity to coach in the Big Ten or SEC, advance past JV conference big 12
 

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We hope the market will correct, yes?
There isn't a true market in college football because it is upset by donations...these coaches are basically being paid to go away, not provide a service. Nebraska football is popular because of two coaches and a whole bunch of great players who weren't paid fairly for the wealth they created and the coaches who have come along just have to convince one AD that they are worthy...these schools sell out seats whether they win or not, there isn't a pure correlation between success and income. Why a coach who has never won a trophy, doesn't coach a position or call plays, is .500 in his career at small market places like Temple and Baylor and had just been forced out of his previous job mid-season could command an 80 million contract and a huge buyout is so non-sensical...we are seeing the transition from such ridiculous contracts to smaller ones in the future but it will take at least the rest of this decade.
 
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Why do you believe Dillingham will leave his Alma mater? I could see him doing it only for an opportunity to coach in the Big Ten or SEC, advance past JV conference big 12
asu pays him like 5.8 million where NU would probably double that, I mean the guy just beat the nil poster child texas tech..
I understand penn states desire for their own, rhule, to push them pass the glass ceiling with endless nil..

so really it works out for all parties involved
 

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asu pays him like 5.8 million where NU would probably double that, I mean the guy just beat the nil poster child texas tech..
I understand penn states desire for their own, rhule, to push them pass the glass ceiling with endless nil..

so really it works out for all parties involved
I think we can get someone much better for $12 million a year. I don’t see him having sustained success at ASU or anywhere else for that matter.
 

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asu pays him like 5.8 million where NU would probably double that, I mean the guy just beat the nil poster child texas tech..
I understand penn states desire for their own, rhule, to push them pass the glass ceiling with endless nil..

so really it works out for all parties involved
Dillingham will not leave ASU and Nebraska is not paying him 12 million to come. The Big 12 is probably overrated again. Cincinnati has not liaise since the Nebraska game.
 

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Did you see the end of the Florida State at Stanford game last night? Watch it if you have not. Crazy ending. I think the Florida State player most likely got the ball across the goal line on the last play, but once it was called short there was not enough conclusive evidence to overturn the call.

Andrew Luck makes a great cheerleader.
He didn’t get the ball across.
 

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I'd coach this F*ck!ng Nebraska team for only 500k/year and get as good or better results. ;)
Put you name in with all the vacancies say you’ll work for 500,000 see how many interviews you get, a please keep everyone posted on which schools call
 

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Has something like a $60M buyout.

Penn State supposedly had a single booster pay for the Franklin buyout at $49M.

That is a crap ton of money to fire a guy, and then to hire a new guy at likely at least $10M per season.

Penn State has the money. Not sure that Florida State boosters will line up for that kind of cash.
Still amazed PSU fired Franklin. IF Franklin would come here and we didn’t have to buy out Rhule, I’ll say fire Rhule today. As it is though, I’m for standing with the cards we have for the foreseeable future.
 

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Norvell and soon to be Fickel are just more examples in a LONG line of former AAC coaches who simply cannot make that jump to the big time. Scott Frost, Charlie Strong, Justin Fuente, Tom Herman, Chad Morris, Willie Taggart, Geoff Collins.

There might be others, but that's a bunch already. Don't these effing AD's do their due diligence? Its like, believe it or not, ONLY Kirby Smart is a Capricorn that has been a really successsful coach at the big time level. It would amaze you, that for whatever reason, Capricorn are lousy coaches. True. LOL

Better yet. First question from an AD to a head coaching resume'. "What's your sign?"
And most of those guys were on the short list of posters on this board….
 

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If 10 spots come open, which is likely, Rhule is on more than a few lists.

The entire money deal, well I said what I thought of it.
I’m not sure that’s the case. Why would you hire Rhule and pay him the 12 Million it would take to match his cotract tail with us. They could hire coordinators from successful P4 programs or FCS head coaches who have won.
 

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It’s going to turn into nfl where coaches are all recycled through different programs. Fans will be perpetually mad with who the new hire is. Gonna suck
Except that it's worse than the NFL in that at least the worst teams get higher picks in the draft. In college football, Ryan Day at Ohio State gets to sign an entire class of players higher touted than maybe one or two of some of the teams on his schedule.
 

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At this point I'm almost hoping PSU wants Rhule and here's a very crazy thought which will probably turn many stomachs but I'll throw it out there anyway, hire P.J. Fleck he only knows how to win, something we seem to have a hard time doing. P.J. Fleck's buy out is only about 26 million I believe and I know it would be a hard pill for many to swallow but the winning would cure many ills.
 

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At this point I'm almost hoping PSU wants Rhule and here's a very crazy thought which will probably turn many stomachs but I'll throw it out there anyway, hire P.J. Fleck he only knows how to win, something we seem to have a hard time doing. P.J. Fleck's buy out is only about 26 million I believe and I know it would be a hard pill for many to swallow but the winning would cure many ills.
After the game on Friday, it's not a crazy idea.
 

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IF Ped Sate poaches Ruhle it will be because that is where Ruhle wants to be, and I am ok with that. It does not mean Ruhle was a bad hire. He did some good things here. The problem I see here is Trev based the hire on what Ruhle did at another place in a different time. Ruhle did not rebuild a B1G program. I think he has done his best here. Has recruited pretty well. If he does go, I hope the AD does not hand out a contract longer than 4 years. Those contracts can be extended and upgraded if it is warranted. Unless you find a proven winner. And that is unlikely due to the fact that most programs are extending their coach if they feel they are worth keeping, to keep poachers away. I think you will see a rash of extensions soon.
 
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Norvell and soon to be Fickel are just more examples in a LONG line of former AAC coaches who simply cannot make that jump to the big time. Scott Frost, Charlie Strong, Justin Fuente, Tom Herman, Chad Morris, Willie Taggart, Geoff Collins.

There might be others, but that's a bunch already. Don't these effing AD's do their due diligence? Its like, believe it or not, ONLY Kirby Smart is a Capricorn that has been a really successsful coach at the big time level. It would amaze you, that for whatever reason, Capricorn are lousy coaches. True. LOL

Better yet. First question from an AD to a head coaching resume'. "What's your sign?"
Yes just gotta go poach the coaches at the conference that Cignetti played for...The Sun Belt
 

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I’m so confused why he didn’t stay put one more year and become a head coach.

and then he took the Nebraska job.

and then I was confused he didn’t stay put one more year and become a head coach.

And then he took the Florida state job.

What an impatient dude when staying put would have gotten him to the role he wanted.
It's interesting because I don't think he was thought of that highly at Syracuse. Then at FSU he's pretty mid. I wonder if he's a better fit in the BIG. Or was it just his defenses didn't play very good offenses.