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I assume you love capitalism...isn't one of the core tenets of capitalism to "capitalize" on market conditions? Were there not favorable market conditions during a massive pandemic caused by a novel virus to warrant pharma companies rushing vaccines for huge profit? Is this not capitalism at its finest? Either government or corporate produces 1 billion shots. There was a market for a billion shots at the time...that market should be met as soon as possible. Safety has never been a top priority for business.

I am just so confused by this board. 99% are staunch capitalists...but most of these people hate corporate money grabs, but they also hate communism, socialism, and big government...so does everyone just want a mom and pop corner drug store producing our vaccines?

Ah, if only it were this simple. But it's not. We love capitalism. But this was corruption. We had government in bed with the drug companies (as usual). We had the Government doing their bidding.

The mandates are what drive us crazy - it was corrupt. Government forcing us to inject something into our body without our consent if we want to keep our job, shop, etc. Is that capitalism or communism?

Why did the Government come out and blast ivermectin? Ivermectin won the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine just a few years earlier. But no,..... the government tells us "Don't take it! It's for horses!" Corrupt. Lies. BS. Everyone with half a brain knows the ivermectin for horses is completely different than the one for humans, that was having solid impacts on Covid. They could've told the truth and told us not to overdo the ivermectin. But nope, the media and the government had to scare the public, tell them to forget Ivermectin - just do the shot. The shot is the cure all. In fact, we are going to require the shot. You call that capitalist?

Oh, and remember they told us the shot will prevent you from getting Covid. Straight out of Biden's mouth. Oops. Maybe not. More BS..
 
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Ah, if only it were this simple. But it's not. We love capitalism. But this was corruption. We had government in bed with the drug companies (as usual). We had the Government doing their bidding.

The mandates are what drive us crazy - it was corrupt. Government forcing us to inject something into our body without our consent if we want to keep our job, shop, etc. Is that capitalism or communism?

Why did the Government come out and blast ivermectin? Ivermectin won the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine just a few years earlier. But no,..... the government tells us "Don't take it! It's for horses!" Corrupt. Lies. BS. Everyone with half a brain knows the ivermectin for horses is completely different than the one for humans, that was having solid impacts on Covid. They could've told the truth and told us not to overdo the ivermectin. But nope, the media and the government had to scare the public, tell them to forget Ivermectin - just do the shot. The shot is the cure all. In fact, we are going to require the shot. You call that capitalist?

Oh, and remember they told us the shot will prevent you from getting Covid. Straight out of Biden's mouth. Oops. Maybe not. More BS..
There is truth to this...the mandatory shot (for those that had to take it) was stupid.
 

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Interesting-Denmark a socialist country has just 11 required vaccines- while the US has 72 now. We have always been a capitalist country with socialist programs as I think we should. Not a big Trump fan- but he might be right about this one, matching Denmark. After seeing the pigs in big pharma feeding at the trough and influencing regulation- something needs to be done.
Their population is much healthier than ours btw.

 

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Uh oh...don't get the "There is no socialism at all in America" posters going!

Also, thank you for conceding, I appreciate that, Dave.
 
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I took the Trump vaccine because I had to 2x to keep employment. I signed up for the trial but it didnt work out. Felt pretty awful the day after shot 2 but it was nothing compared to how bad I felt last year after both Shingles shots. It felt like my skin was on fire and the fully body aches were brutal. Those approaching 50 have those to look forward to
 

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All these dudes posting about how they are scared of vaxxes and how they hate them...also have their kids vaxxed. It is all BS talk from them. It is performative theater...

These are the same guys that say things like "I would walk right up to that __________ piece of _________ and tell them off" when in fact, they would never do that. Because in the end, it is just bad theater and they are pretty much normal.

These guys all take their kids to the doctor when they are sick. They don't rub worms on their broken arms when they fall off the monkey bars. They all get and pay for medical and dental insurance...even though they all claim to be against doctors and dentists.
I boxed for 3 years in college and grew up in south Omaha.
I would love to meet face to face to test out your theory. You go to games in Lincoln and that’s where I live. Let’s get together pm me.
 
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I boxed for 3 years in college and grew up in south Omaha.
I would love to meet face to face to test out your theory. You go to games in Lincoln and that’s where I live. Let’s get together pm me.
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I boxed for 3 years in college and grew up in south Omaha.
I would love to meet face to face to test out your theory. You go to games in Lincoln and that’s where I live. Let’s get together pm me.
What theory is that? (I see we are at the end of Act One...nice performative theater)

There is no PM thing here...what is your phone number, I will text you.


Hey, maybe you can just box the measles away from people?
 
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Really, how many cases of measles were there in Nebraska this year? I guess I’m stupid according to you.
As I’ve told clients over the years, “statistics don’t mean much if your kid is the one in a thousand that contracts a devastating disease”. My grandkids are in Texas where there’s been large outbreaks of measles.
 
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As I’ve told clients over the years, “statistics don’t mean much if your kid is the one in a thousand that contracts a devastating disease”. My grandkids are in Texas where there’s been large outbreaks of measles.
This is SOOOOOOOO true.

I know the tough macho anti-vax dudes hate hearing it because of course then they have to be like "If my kid got sick from it, so what, it just means he wasn't tough, like me" which of course is all BS.

Like I said, for most of these guys it is performative theater.
 

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Yeah let’s all be terrified of something that had killed zero people in the USA this year, none, zero.

guess we better be on the lookout for big foot attacks too- could happen- be on the lookout- get your Bigfoot bite vaccine asap. I wonder which pharma Company will latch on to thst one.

Meanwhile in the real world drug companies made billions from sun screen that was supposed to be the thing to prevent cancer/ but the facts are that it doesn’t- in fact there are more cancer deaths from this group than those who chose not to use it

Aain/ if vaccines work- what do the vaccinated have to worry about from the unvaxxed?
Control and virtue signaling

You and I agree on most things. The measles vaccine I have pretty strong feelings about. I’m trained In epidemiology and measles vaccine is IMO one of the most important vaccines you can give your kid. Measles is potentially a horrible disease.
 

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Have you even looked at the rate of measles pre and post vaccination roll out? Not to mention all the other diseases there are vaccines for? They were in steep decline before the roll out and the rates were hardly affected after. Your contention is directly refuted by the data.
And the return of measles outbreaks in the rising number of unvaccinated kids means nothing to you? I have a friend in his 70s now who was sterile because of measles infection as a kid. Yeah most kids recover but many end up with persistent CNS and other organ disease including loss of vision.
 
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And the return of measles outbreaks in the rising number of unvaccinated kids means nothing to you? I have a friend in his 70s now who was sterile because of measles infection as a kid. Yeah most kids recover but many end up with persistent CNS and other organ disease including loss of vision.
You know that you can't reason with these people (even though they are vaxxed and so are their kids)...they are going to die on the hill of performative theater.
 

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You and I agree on most things. The measles vaccine I have pretty strong feelings about. I’m trained In epidemiology and measles vaccine is IMO one of the most important vaccines you can give your kid. Measles is potentially a horrible disease.
I mean, the dude just offered to fight me. Ha

That is, I think the first fight offer, since that weirdo HTO threatened to fight a poster at Hy Vee.
 

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Have you even looked at the rate of measles pre and post vaccination roll out? Not to mention all the other diseases there are vaccines for? They were in steep decline before the roll out and the rates were hardly affected after. Your contention is directly refuted by the data.
The problem with your theory is that you have an epidemic withsomething like measles and you develop a population of immune survivors. It returns to an endemic level until the number of unexposed kids reaches a level that makes another epidemic possible. It’s pretty clear that the measles is problem now in unvaccinated subgroups. I don’t worry for my safety. I worry about kids who could be protected from a horrible virus. Look up the necropsy photos of the organs of animals that have died from a paramyxovirus. The lesions on livers, spleens and lungs are horribble
 
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What theory is that? (I see we are at the end of Act One...nice performative theater)

There is no PM thing here...what is your phone number, I will text you.


Hey, maybe you can just box the measles away from people?
Your theory about just all talk and not stepping up. That would be you. Youve done your research on me- you know how to contact me.

I’m on facebook- reach out. I’m not leaving my phone on a public forum. You can never take the South Omaha out of someone from there no matter how far removed. Let’s go- see who is flapping their jaw and who isnt. I still really enjoy training, havent sparred in 3 years but still have all the gear etc start your backpedal now lol We can find a nice patch of grass and see.
 
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Your theory about just all talk and not stepping up. That would be you. Youve done your research on me- you know how to contact me.

I’m on facebook- reach out. I’m not leaving my phone on a public forum. You can never take the South Omaha out of someone from there no matter how far removed. Let’s go- see who is flapping their jaw and who isnt. I still really enjoy training, havent sparred in 3 years but still have all the gear etc start your backpedal now lol
Research? You said all those things. I don't even know your name.

And what the hell is "South Omaha"??

I have to admit, I love that I got you so worked up that you are now wanting to fight me. You are a dork.

So how do I contact you? I don't have facebook because I am not old. Do you have instagram?

Is there a Hy Vee in Lincoln???
 

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Research? You said all those things. I don't even know your name.

And what the hell is "South Omaha"??

I have to admit, I love that I got you so worked up that you are now wanting to fight me. You are a dork.

So how do I contact you? I don't have facebook because I am not old. Do you have instagram?

Is there a Hy Vee in Lincoln???
Liar
I never said I coached youth ball before you brought it up.

backpedal backpedal backpedal JUST like I predicted
Like your kind always does.

You know how to reach me
You know the name and background
Simple to do

You wont
Your kind never does
Always an excuse
Always big hat and no cattle 🤣

exactly who you were railing on- people that don’t back up what they say
I’m backing it up
So fewer issues back in the day when communication was mainly face to face. The threat doesn’t exist now so wimps like you can spout off without ever having to answer for anything.

So many younger people get so brave behind a keyboard- it’s so weak. Just contact me- it will be over quickly -I don’t pile on . Good little lesson for you
 
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Liar
I never said I was a youth coach before you brought it up.

backpedal backpedal backpedal
Like your kind always does.

You know how to reach me
You know the name and background
Simple to do

You wont
Your kind never does
Always an excuse
Always big hat and no cattle 🤣

exactly who you were railing on- people that don’t back up what they say
I’m backing if up
This is your post, you brought it up, weirdo. I never looked anything up:

Football ages 7-15 25 plus years
Baseball ages 6-13 10 years
Weight Training-Speed Training - ages 11-16 10 years
Boxing- ages 10-18 assistant 1 year
Basketball - ages 10-14 assistant 3 years
Girls Soccer-ages 7-8 my girls 2 years- I dislike soccer

Never got paid- or paid myself or asked etc with exception of reality TV thing in Reno in 2015 and Coaching Clinics for adults - not camps
 

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I will wait for your apology. South Omaha.

you have shared everything...Your AM college life, selling some business, getting married and retiring, how you hate vaxxes, didn't you even say you went to Europe for 3 months? You tell us everything...
 
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You know that you can't reason with these people (even though they are vaxxed and so are their kids)...they are going to die on the hill of performative theater.
Fauci and his minions have severely injured the credibility of the CDC. Distrust of your government is legitimate. I don’t blame people for some of the mistrust. I have a doctor friend whose father was a Dr and gave him the first version of the Salk polio vaccine. It actually gave him the disease and he spent over a year in an iron lung. He survived but has struggled with the after effects of that first vaccine which was not attenuated enough. The second version probably saved hundreds of thousands of lives and prevented similar numbers of people from being crippled. He is a tremendous man and was a great cardiologist. My wife’s mentor to a large degree.
 

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Fauci and his minions have severely injured the credibility of the CDC. Distrust of your government is legitimate. I don’t blame people for some of the mistrust. I have a doctor friend whose father was a Dr and gave him the first version of the Salk polio vaccine. It actually gave him the disease and he spent over a year in an iron lung. He survived but has struggled with the after effects of that first vaccine which was not attenuated enough. The second version probably saved hundreds of thousands of lives and prevented similar numbers of people from being crippled. He is a tremendous man and was a great cardiologist. My wife’s mentor to a large degree.
Iron lung?

Good lord, how ******* old are you????

Also, that was a joke, please don't try to fight me.
 

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I will wait for your apology. South Omaha.
You talked about me coaching youth well before I made that post and you know it.

delay delay and sidestep
Just as I knew you would and you are

I’m just being real and not posturing
You said you hate that - pretty adamant
Guys saying they would do xyz and never do it- well I’m here- let’s do
We both hate that stuff so let’s meet and see who is posturing and who isnt.

I expect more excuses
Always the same with your type
Keyboard bully warriors 😅😅wimps in real life
 

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Iron lung?

Good lord, how ******* old are you????
I’m 68. He’s in his late 70s. There was a story about a woman who just died and she had spent her whole life in an iron lung supposedly. Don’t know if that was factual or not. If so I suppose she was a quadriplegic and didn’t want to be on a ventilator with a permanent tracheostomy. Just give an me an OD of fentanyl.
 
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You talked about me coaching youth well before I made that post and you know it.

delay delay and sidestep
Just as I knew you would and you are

I’m just being real and not posturing
You said you hate that - pretty adamant
Guys saying they would do xyz and never do it- well I’m here- let’s do
We both hate that stuff so let’s meet and see who is posturing and who isnt.

I expect more excuses
Always the same with your type
Keyboard bully warriors 😅😅wimps in real life
You posted ALL that stuff about yourself. You tell us everything about your life, it is all you do.

I have not told you one excuse. I asked for your contact info.
 

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Anyone here know the best parking lot in Lincoln for one really old guy and one less old guy to have a really lame fight over internet posts?

Thanks!
 

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You posted ALL that stuff about yourself. You tell us everything about your life, it is all you do.

I have not told you one excuse. I asked for your contact info.
You brought it up before I ever mentioned it
You are a liar and a *****

backpedal backpedal backpedal
Just as I predicted

you can reach me on Facebook like I said
Very simple to set up account- take you less than 5 minutes

Your kind never does

I thought you hated posturing??
Exactly what you are doing

Just like those wimps in the bar causing problems then saying youse two fight lol

just like I predicted
You will never agree to meet
Big hat and no cattle
Internet wimps are all alike

Worst case we can just call it out here and plan accordingly, I can live with that if you don’t want to contact me. No parking lots- soft landing grass so you won’t get hurt
 

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You brought it up before I ever mentioned it
You are a liar and a *****

backpedal backpedal backpedal
Just as I predicted

you can reach me on Facebook like I said
Very simple to set up account- take you less than 5 minutes

Your kind never does

I thought you hated posturing??
Exactly what you are doing

Just like those wimps in the bar causing problems then saying youse two fight lol

just like I predicted
You will never agree to meet
Big hat and no cattle

Worst case we can just call it out here and plan accordingly, I can live with that if you don’t want to contact me. No parking lots- soft landing grass so you won’t get hurt
You mentioned your coaching in that thread! I showed you it, my god.

Isn't the phrase "All hat and no cattle"?

Anyway, pick a parking lot in lincoln. How about The Night Before. I will be there at 11:45 tonight. Blue Ford Focus (4 door).
 

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You mentioned your coaching in that thread! I showed you it, my god.

Isn't the phrase "All hat and no cattle"?

Anyway, pick a parking lot in lincoln. How about The Night Before. I will be there at 11:45 tonight. Blue Ford Focus (4 door).
You called me 7 year old coach well before I said a word about me coaching anything. You moron.
We can meet under the bridge at the end of 8th street and go over the tracks to some soft ground. Sunday night about 7 if fine for me.

Ford focus? Why don’t you get a summer job like all the teachers used to do instead of hanging on here all the time so you can buy yourself a descent car?
Excuses excuses
 

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You called me 7 year old coach well before I said a word about me coaching anything. You moron.
We can meet under the bridge at the end of 8th street and go over the tracks to some soft ground. Sunday night about 7 if fine for me.

Ford focus? Why don’t you get a summer job like all the teachers used to do instead of hanging on here all the time so you can buy yourself a descent car?
Excuses excuses
What is a "descent" car?

I will be at the Night Before, tonight. 11:45. Be there or be square.

You posted that stuff about yourself. It is okay though. You probably just forgot you have posted everything about your life here.
 

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Well, as expected, the Night Before was pretty fun and also as expected there was no one waiting in the parking lot for me at 11:45. Not the dancer that said she would be out there...nor anyone else. Shocker.

It was probably because of my measles.
 
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Well, as expected, the Night Before was pretty fun and also as expected there was no one waiting in the parking lot for me at 11:45. Not the dancer that said she would be out there...nor anyone else. Shocker.

It was probably because of my measles.
Sunday 7 pm
Let’s meet in front of Fleetwood restaturant
We can Walk over to the tracks and find some ok grass so when you hit the deck you don’t get hurt.
see you then
 
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What is a "descent" car?

I will be at the Night Before, tonight. 11:45. Be there or be square.

You posted that stuff about yourself. It is okay though. You probably just forgot you have posted everything about your life here

You brought it up well before I disclosed it.
doesn’t matter at all. Let’s meet up and call it square. You won’t, all talk and posturing.

talk to yourself all day here today like you always do- living a sad little life behind your keyboard. I’ve got lots of great stuff to do today - not sitting in front of my phone all day- like the pathetic loser you are. What a sad hobby for you
 

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this comes from illegals entering the country who were not vaxxed in their home country.. the rest of the country has/or had herd immunity... @dinglefritz surely has the details
The illegals aren’t helping but it's been an issue in some religious sects for years. Post COVID and with the anti-vaccine big pharma movement, there’s a larger population of susceptible people. The world is so much more mobile to begin with but no doubt the flooding of our borders by thousands of young unvaccinated people has subjected us to an onslaught of measles and tuberculosis.
 
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