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If the people who are vaccinated against measles are worried- if vaccinations work/ why would the vaccinated need to worry?
Measles was nearly eradicated before mandatory vaccinations thanks to better sanitation etc
Our kids don’t need 50 plus vaccinations- it’s a money grab and not healthy for the kids either
 

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If the people who are vaccinated against measles are worried- if vaccinations work/ why would the vaccinated need to worry?
Measles was nearly eradicated before mandatory vaccinations thanks to better sanitation etc
Our kids don’t need 50 plus vaccinations- it’s a money grab and not healthy for the kids either
Did your kids get vaxxed? Just curious.
 

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I am not vaccinated for measles

No one- not a single person died of measles in USA this year

Your odds of getting measles is about
150,000 to 1. I will gladly take my chances.
Let’s all panic for nothing
I asked if your kids are vaxxed, not you.

But if you are as old as you say you are, you are vaxxed, 100%.
 
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I asked if your kids are vaxxed, not you.

But if you are as old as you say you are, you are vaxxed, 100%.
My kids are my business

Not been vaccinated for measles 65 years of age

if you’re vaccinated and that protects you how do the unvaccinated affect you personally. ?

Not sure why people want to control others when it doesn’t affect them at all. You live your life and I’ll live mine.

zero Covid shots here and have had COVID once other than that have not been sick with anything last 15 years-1 trip to the doctor for skin issue. I don’t even take aspirin - nothing.

For those taking testosterone- your body stops producing it naturally when you add it artificially. And then the body will have a tough time turning it back on if you stop injecting it Thankful I never did- shortcuts come with a cost- learned that decades ago
Same problem with glp1s you just watch.

Big pharma is a very big problem coupled with our corrupt political system. Americans are so fat, unhealthy and over medicated
 
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My kids are my business

Not been vaccinated for measles 65 years of age

if you’re vaccinated and that protects you how do the unvaccinated affect you personally. ?

Not sure why people want to control others when it doesn’t affect them at all. You live your life and I’ll live mine.

zero Covid shots here and have had COVID once other than that have not been sick with anything last 15 years-1 trip to the doctor for skin issue. I don’t even take aspirin - nothing.
Let me answer your questions and add my comments:

So your kids are vaxxed, classic (Mine are not by the way).

I am vaxxed. Because I was a baby and had no say.

How does it affect me personally? It doesn't. I don't care. You seem to be anti-vaxx, which is a control thing as well.

I had to get the stupid covid shot for work. I never got a second one. I never got covid because I am not a huge *****.

I only go to the dentist and when I do, I refuse to let them use anything to numb me...again...because I am not a huge ***.
 

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"Vaxes are stupid and don't prevent anything and I am a real man that is a super tough guy"

"What's that, are my kids vaxxed, I mean, that is my business...also my wife makes all the decisions in the family and I am just a *****, so like...she made the call not me"

Hahaha...Classic.
 

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The unvacced don’t care if you get a vaccinations- shoot away-I don’t care one iota. Just let me choose not to. Take those 50 plus shots- and we can compare real results

its the pro vaxx people that want to force everyone to get vaccinated. Force others, I’m for allowing us all to choose for ourselves

Again if you choose to be vaccinated and vaccinations work- why are the vaccinated concerned about something they can’t catch? Or fear measles that not a single person had died from this year?
ridiculous control freaks
Plus follow the money and influence see what big Pharma and our politicians have done to us.

I got Covid most likely- only time sick - even a cold in last 15 years. Never went to DR but I’m guessing I had it because after a week on the couch- was ok. I went to South Dakota on last day nebraska was open. A few weeks later South Dakota shut down- I stopped in nebraska just to do laundry- next day left for Florida which stayed wide open- health clubs- everything- bars restaurants. Stayed in Florida Until Nebraska opened back up.
 
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The unvacced don’t care if you get a vaccinations- shoot away-I don’t care one iota.

its the pro vaxx people that want to force everyone to get vaccinated. Force others

Again if you choose to be vaccinated and vaccinations work- why are the vaccinated concerned about something like measles that not a single person had died from this year?
ridiculous
I agree and my question would be...why do the unvaxxed care about getting vaxxed? I don't think that anyone should have to do anything they don't want to do. I think all drugs should be legal and I think assisted suicide should be legal.

Now, I bet no one fell from a giant safe falling on them while it was being lifted up an building this year...but I would still not want that to happen to anyone...Would you?

Also, why are your kids vaxxed if you are against it?
 

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I couldn’t care less if you of anyone is vaccinated- it’s none of my business. My health and how I handle it is my business. Your health is your business- take the 50 plus shots- your choice. Just don’t require me to follow in your footsteps or face a penalty. Again- the vaxxed shouldn’t care at all about the unvaxxed if vaccines work. It’s a control and virtue signaling thing

I’m easily in the 95th plus percentile in health thanks to my own natural approach to diet, exercise and mindfulness. 11 percent body fat- Ill one time in 15 years, rhr 62, lifts in 90 plus percentile range for age and vo2 max in 90th percentile. Lots of sunshine, no medications or otc meds and lots of purposeful mindfulness along with Whole Foods diet, lots of red meat and daily exercise. I don’t try and force if on anyone- you make your own choices and live with the consequences- I’m good with that. I in turn will live on my terms.

our society is over medicated, fat and unhealthy by choice aided by manipulation from our food and drug companies
 
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As to safes dropping on peoples heads. No I don’t want if to happen to anyone. But since it rarely if ever happens- why should I worry about it ? Or be forced to take a drug that could harm my body when there is literally no chance a safe is dropping on my head?
Have to look at the motivations of somethjng so utterly ridiculous.kind of like being vaxxed for measles in the USA
 
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If the people who are vaccinated against measles are worried- if vaccinations work/ why would the vaccinated need to worry?
Measles was nearly eradicated before mandatory vaccinations thanks to better sanitation etc
Our kids don’t need 50 plus vaccinations- it’s a money grab and not healthy for the kids either
Some of us who have dissected animals that have died from paramyxoviruses grow concerned when our daughter-in-law resists vaccinating for viruses that can make our grandkids blind, sterile, mentally diminished or with permanent organ disease. Vaccinating your kids against COVID was criminal. Not vaccinating your kids against measles is just stupid.
 
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I am not vaccinated for measles

No one- not a single person died of measles in USA this year

Your odds of getting measles is about
150,000 to 1. I will gladly take my chances.
Let’s all panic for nothing
The only reason for those old odds for getting measles wasn’t just sanitation. It was mass vaccination of a vulnerable population subset. My God, sanitation? Have you been to a school, airport, bus station, fast food restaurant etc? You can smell the aerosol fomites when you walk in to places like schools and daycares.
 
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Some of us who have dissected animals that have died from paramyxoviruses grow concerned when our daughter-in-law resists vaccinating for viruses that can make our grandkids blind, sterile, mentally diminished or with permanent organ disease. Vaccinating your kids against COVID was criminal. Not vaccinating your kids against measles is just stupid.
Really, how many cases of measles were there in Nebraska this year? I guess I’m stupid according to you.
 
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Testosterone injections shutdown your body from making its own. That can diminish your ability to produce it on your own when you come off OC it per the article. So call me cynical - another drug many people will be on for life- like glp1s. A multi trillion dollar windfall for drug companies.

The Germans used meth in WWIi - was hoping we were better than that,

Meanwhile the meat heads in the gym- easy to tell who’s on and a good number choose to get that early pattern baldness to boot along with a drug they may have to take until death,
 

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Oh my god...

I have to ask again @davecisar why are your kids vaxxed if you are so against it?

Two, vaxxes are not required. So you don't need to worry about it.

Three, I think people always think so many more people use steroids...they don't, most people that lift don't even know how to get them.

Four, congrats on all that amazing health! Those were some impressive stats!
 

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The only reason for those old odds for getting measles wasn’t just sanitation. It was mass vaccination of a vulnerable population subset. My God, sanitation? Have you been to a school, airport, bus station, fast food restaurant etc? You can smell the aerosol fomites when you walk in to places like schools and daycares.
Most anti vaxers are normal...it is the super weird ones that you have to worry about it and I think we found one.

But hey, he has also never taken an aspirin.
 

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Yeah let’s all be terrified of something that had killed zero people in the USA this year, none, zero.

guess we better be on the lookout for big foot attacks too- could happen- be on the lookout- get your Bigfoot bite vaccine asap. I wonder which pharma Company will latch on to thst one.

Meanwhile in the real world drug companies made billions from sun screen that was supposed to be the thing to prevent cancer/ but the facts are that it doesn’t- in fact there are more cancer deaths from this group than those who chose not to use it

Aain/ if vaccines work- what do the vaccinated have to worry about from the unvaxxed?
Control and virtue signaling

 

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Yeah let’s all be terrified of something that had killed zero people in the USA this year, none, zero.

guess we better be on the lookout for big foot attacks too- could happen- be on the lookout- get your Bigfoot bite vaccine asap

Meanwhile in the real world drug companies made billions from sun screen that was supposed to be the thing to prevent cancer/ but the facts are that it doesn’t- in fact there are more cancer deaths from this group than those who chose not to use it

Let me guess, you do't use sun screen either???

So you didn't answer yet, why are your kids vaxxed?
 

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Dave has valid points about the drug companies, the money grab, the power they wield, the politicians pockets they are lining with their wealth. it's disgusting and we can't fix it unless we recognize it and address it. We didn't eliminate tobacco companies, but they got reigned in because of their corruption and targeting of kids etc.

Very few appear ready to take on the drug co's. You can hear the money sloshing around D.C. Corruption to the hilt when it comes to a lot of these new drugs and shots. Which ones are legit and which ones aren't? I have no idea, but I try and research to make a decision when needed.

SuperFan, I'm glad you didn't support the mandate Biden and his corrupt government loving cronies forced on us. They tried to go even FURTHER. Thank goodness SCOTUS prevented that evil step. I laugh when the idi0ts on the left call Trump a fascist when they supported the U.S. Government mandating we inject this shot into our bodies. Pro-choice my *ss. "My body, my choice" went right out the window when they started telling me what to do with mine.

Am I anti-vax? No. Have I had vaccinations? Yes. Was the Covid shot rushed and NOT allowed to go through the full trials of a normal vax? Absolutely (Trump is one who pushed for the rush too, shame on him). I laugh when people call people like me anti-vax. My wife is an RN and she was like "wait a minute. This is being rushed. Normally these things go through 5 years of trial and get pulled when there are bad effects." Not this time. Full steam ahead - protocol be damned. We and our kids are all Covid shot free and couldn't be happier. Not because we are anti-vax but because this thing did NOT go through proper safety procedures and normal protocol
 

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The only reason for those old odds for getting measles wasn’t just sanitation. It was mass vaccination of a vulnerable population subset. My God, sanitation? Have you been to a school, airport, bus station, fast food restaurant etc? You can smell the aerosol fomites when you walk in to places like schools and daycares.
Have you even looked at the rate of measles pre and post vaccination roll out? Not to mention all the other diseases there are vaccines for? They were in steep decline before the roll out and the rates were hardly affected after. Your contention is directly refuted by the data.
 

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Have you even looked at the rate of measles pre and post vaccination roll out? Not to mention all the other diseases there are vaccines for? They were in steep decline before the roll out and the rates were hardly affected after. Your contention is directly refuted by the data.
Are you vaxxed?
 

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If the people who are vaccinated against measles are worried- if vaccinations work/ why would the vaccinated need to worry?
Measles was nearly eradicated before mandatory vaccinations thanks to better sanitation etc
Our kids don’t need 50 plus vaccinations- it’s a money grab and not healthy for the kids either
You don't understand basic things. There are many kids who cannot get vaccinated against this extremely dangerous and virulent illness. Vaccines protect these people as well as normal healthy people from getting a nasty illness. We honor the greatest generation and then repudiate the things they came up with to protect society constantly.
 
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You don't understand basic things. There are many kids who cannot get vaccinated against this extremely dangerous and virulent illness. Vaccines protect these people as well as normal healthy people from getting a nasty illness. We honor the greatest generation and then repudiate the things they came up with to protect society constantly.
All these dudes posting about how they are scared of vaxxes and how they hate them...also have their kids vaxxed. It is all BS talk from them. It is performative theater...

These are the same guys that say things like "I would walk right up to that __________ piece of _________ and tell them off" when in fact, they would never do that. Because in the end, it is just bad theater and they are pretty much normal.

These guys all take their kids to the doctor when they are sick. They don't rub worms on their broken arms when they fall off the monkey bars. They all get and pay for medical and dental insurance...even though they all claim to be against doctors and dentists.
 

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Dave has valid points about the drug companies, the money grab, the power they wield, the politicians pockets they are lining with their wealth. it's disgusting and we can't fix it unless we recognize it and address it. We didn't eliminate tobacco companies, but they got reigned in because of their corruption and targeting of kids etc.

Very few appear ready to take on the drug co's. You can hear the money sloshing around D.C. Corruption to the hilt when it comes to a lot of these new drugs and shots. Which ones are legit and which ones aren't? I have no idea, but I try and research to make a decision when needed.

SuperFan, I'm glad you didn't support the mandate Biden and his corrupt government loving cronies forced on us. They tried to go even FURTHER. Thank goodness SCOTUS prevented that evil step. I laugh when the idi0ts on the left call Trump a fascist when they supported the U.S. Government mandating we inject this shot into our bodies. Pro-choice my *ss. "My body, my choice" went right out the window when they started telling me what to do with mine.

Am I anti-vax? No. Have I had vaccinations? Yes. Was the Covid shot rushed and NOT allowed to go through the full trials of a normal vax? Absolutely (Trump is one who pushed for the rush too, shame on him). I laugh when people call people like me anti-vax. My wife is an RN and she was like "wait a minute. This is being rushed. Normally these things go through 5 years of trial and get pulled when there are bad effects." Not this time. Full steam ahead - protocol be damned. We and our kids are all Covid shot free and couldn't be happier. Not because we are anti-vax but because this thing did NOT go through proper safety procedures and normal protocol
I assume you love capitalism...isn't one of the core tenets of capitalism to "capitalize" on market conditions? Were there not favorable market conditions during a massive pandemic caused by a novel virus to warrant pharma companies rushing vaccines for huge profit? Is this not capitalism at its finest? Either government or corporate produces 1 billion shots. There was a market for a billion shots at the time...that market should be met as soon as possible. Safety has never been a top priority for business.

I am just so confused by this board. 99% are staunch capitalists...but most of these people hate corporate money grabs, but they also hate communism, socialism, and big government...so does everyone just want a mom and pop corner drug store producing our vaccines?
 
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I assume you love capitalism...isn't one of the core tenets of capitalism to "capitalize" on market conditions? Were there not favorable market conditions during a massive pandemic caused by a novel virus to warrant pharma companies rushing vaccines for huge profit? Is this not capitalism at its finest? Either government or corporate produces 1 billion shots. There was a market for a billion shots at the time...that market should be met as soon as possible. Safety has never been a top priority for business.
AMEN! I was going to say the same exact thing. That was capitalism at its finest and I would have done the same exact thing.
 

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Yep- anti vax is the cover word instead of addressing the purposeful overmedicating of the us population and the power big pharma has over our government and regulatory bodies.

They can never answer why if they are vaccinated and vaccines work- why would they care if the unvaccinated got shots or not? Control and virtue signaling- very weak and very beta VS

So they care ? I care about people’s health but I don’t think we should outlaw processed foods, alcohol and cigarettes. Do as you please- reap what you sow, it’s your choice. I believe in exercise- but I don’t think everyone should be forced to do a 5 mile walk and lift routine everyday. Not like the pro vaxxer virtue signalers that forced many to choose between getting shot and having a job. Stay fat, immobile , sickly and unhappy - your choice., I’m fine with it
 
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Yep- anti vax is the cover word instead of addressing the purposeful overmedicating of the us population and the power big pharma has over our government and regulatory bodies.

They can never answer why if they are vaccinated and vaccines work- why would they care if the unvaccinated got shots? Control and virtue signaling- very weak VS

so they care ? I care about people’s health but I don’t think we should outlaw processed foods, alcohol and cigarettes. Do as you please- reap what you sow, it’s your choice. I believe in exercise- but I don’t think everyone should be forced to do a 5 mile walk and lift routine everyday. Not like the pro vaxxer virtue signalers that forced many to choose between getting shot and having a job. Stay fat, immobile , sickly and unhappy - your choice.
Do you have health insurance? I mean, why would you need it, right?

I also believe in working out and unlike you, I don't use that broad brush to assume that certain people that think certain things are all fat, lazy and unhappy.

You still didn't answer but I guess we know the answer. Are your kids vaxxed?

My kids are not...But you seem to be worried to answer. Why is that? Hmmmm

I guess maybe your kids can just walk 5 miles when they get sick.
 

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Are your kids vaxxed?

Wait - you make fun of him for having his kids vaxed (and being against vax) then you ask if his kids are vaxed? WhIch is it?

I have no beef with a guy not sharing about his kids on a public board. The Iowa dork not saying a meaningful game they've played in? That guy is pathetic. This guy not wanting to discuss his kids? Reasonable. JMO
 

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Wait - you make fun of him for having his kids vaxed (and being against vax) then you ask if his kids are vaxed? Seems odd.
He is anti-vax but his kids are vaxxed.

I am making fun of him for that.

You would think that a hardcore anti-vaxer who only believes in excersize and reading medical journals would NOT get his kids vaxxed, right? But, no, he got them vaxxed. Want to know why?


Just
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He is anti-vax but his kids are vaxxed.

I am making fun of him for that.

You would think that a hardcore anti-vaxer who only believes in excersize and reading medical journals would NOT get his kids vaxxed, right? But, no, he got them vaxxed. Want to know why?


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You seem way more worked up than the “anti vaxxer” why are you triggered so much about his life style. Seems weird