***Final Four Thread***

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The pope is exactly what happens when you don't take a chance
We took a chance with Pope and it's not working. You can't take two chances in a row an fail. Well, you can but it puts you in a deeper hole. Next coach can't be a "Well, lets see what happens."
No , we didn't take a chance with Pope, our AD went after only Drew the most milk toast coach in the business amd mossed them panic hired Pope. Pope was on nobodies list for the position
 

bbnkat02

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Taking a chance with Pope is a near death knell. You don’t do that in the first place
I agree- I wasn't wild about it. But I give every coach a fair shot an Season 1 wasn't horrid. Season 2 was a damn nightmare. Bad part Season 3 is looking to be worse.
 

bbnkat02

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The pope is exactly what happens when you don't take a chance
No , we didn't take a chance with Pope, our AD went after only Drew the most milk toast coach in the business amd mossed them panic hired Pope. Pope was on nobodies list for the position

We went after Drew and Hurley. Hurley was supposedly a 9-10 million dollar offer.

Then Mitch panicked and did a stupid.

Again, ,who's saying "yes" to us on Tuesday that's of any worth? Especially with UNC open. Spiritually, we all want this fixed and changed. Logistically, there's no real way to do it right now, unless you already have someone in the bag. And let's be real, we know that's not happening.
 

Bugs092056

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We went after Drew and Hurley. Hurley was supposedly a 9-10 million dollar offer.

Then Mitch panicked and did a stupid.

Again, ,who's saying "yes" to us on Tuesday that's of any worth? Especially with UNC open. Spiritually, we all want this fixed and changed. Logistically, there's no real way to do it right now, unless you already have someone in the bag. And let's be real, we know that's not happening.
I refuse to believe that Mitch legitimately went after Hurley
 
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We went after Drew and Hurley. Hurley was supposedly a 9-10 million dollar offer.

Then Mitch panicked and did a stupid.

Again, ,who's saying "yes" to us on Tuesday that's of any worth? Especially with UNC open. Spiritually, we all want this fixed and changed. Logistically, there's no real way to do it right now, unless you already have someone in the bag. And let's be real, we know that's not happening.
why did we stop at Hurley? Still not an issue of the grass isn't greener as much as we didn't look for the grass bes8de the ONE green spot and the rest of the brown dead grass
 

*Fox2Monk*

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I still think the winner of Michigan-Arizona beats UConn. This UConn team isn't that talented. They are gritty and well coached but I just think Arizona and Michigan are on another level and the season established that.
Yeah but they could wear each other out this game. UConn should have had to get thru one of them.
 
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bbnkat02

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Please just admit he shouldnt have been hired. This isn't enjoyable for anyone, including him
Didn't I just say that? "I wasn't wild about it." Maybe I should've said, "Damn! I wanted to punch Mitch in the face!" That better?

Some of you are just letting emotion obscure reality. Both suck right now. Reality is we're stuck with Pope until December at least. We won't have a new AD until summer. And they're not gonna fire Pope then either.
 

Bugs092056

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Didn't I just say that? "I wasn't wild about it." Maybe I should've said, "Damn! I wanted to punch Mitch in the face!" That better?

Some of you are just letting emotion obscure reality. Both suck right now. Reality is we're stuck with Pope until December at least. We won't have a new AD until summer. And they're not gonna fire Pope then either.
Yes, you should say that Mitch is an absolute bum, I'll give you that
 
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ZaytovenCat

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A lot of us have been livid for about at least a season or two now.
I’ve been livid since 2020 and highly annoyed since 2018.

Calipari also carries a good chunk of this UConn blame. UConn won 2 of their titles directly because of him. One of which he was outcoached by KEVIN F’N OLLIE of all people in the damn title game. If you get outcoached by Kevin Ollie then you should never be allowed to be mentioned with the alltime greats.
 

LineSkiCat14

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I still think winner of this game beats Uconn.. but id feel better if it was Arizona. Michigan losing its best bench player drops them a bit.

Uconn might be hot now.. but they wete down by 19 to an overrated Duke team, and they'd have lost if Duke didnt completely **** their pants. I dont think this Uconn team is on the same level as their two title teams.. but thats why they play the games I guessm
 

Bugs092056

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I’ve been livid since 2020 and highly annoyed since 2018.

Calipari also carries a good chunk of this UConn blame. UConn won 2 of their titles directly because of him. One of which he was outcoached by KEVIN F’N OLLIE of all people in the damn title game. If you get outcoached by Kevin Ollie then you should never be allowed to be mentioned with the alltime greats.
Cal's goofy arse is a catalyst for a lot of this, I agree
 

bbnkat02

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why did we stop at Hurley? Still not an issue of the grass isn't greener as much as we didn't look for the grass bes8de the ONE green spot and the rest of the brown dead grass
Because we needed a coach. Portal was in full swing. The eff up was not letting Cal go or not letting him walk until mid freaking May.

That screwed us from going after May. Who I think would've come here originally. And we'd be where Michigan is right now more than likely.

THAT was the real screw up.
 
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Because we needed a coach. Portal was in full swing. The eff up was not letting Cal go or not letting him walk until mid freaking May.

That screwed us from going after May. Who I think would've come here originally. And we'd be where Michigan is right now more than likely.

THAT was the real screw up.
we couldn't just "let" cal go unfortunately because of Mitch and his terrible contracts
 
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Because we needed a coach. Portal was in full swing. The eff up was not letting Cal go or not letting him walk until mid freaking May.

That screwed us from going after May. Who I think would've come here originally. And we'd be where Michigan is right now more than likely.

THAT was the real screw up.
Because Barnhart didn't fire him 5 years earlier when the majority of the fans were already done with Cal because of his horrid contract.
 
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*Fox2Monk*

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May is not coming here. He's in a low pressure well paying job at UM and is about to compete for a title. And they have WAAAAY more money than we do.

Oats might. But UNC isn't looking at him apparently due to off court issues....so......

Lloyd JUST signed an extension at Zona. Get real!

Pearl has been quiet and again doesn't seem to be crawling back to basketball to apply at UNC.

Otz MIGHT be an option, but he's either being courted by UNC or turned them down entirely depending on reports. So, if he's turning own UNC what's our pitch?
You don’t know that until you do it. You are probably right but you go make them the offer of all offers. Just like Hurley. 13 million a year. It’s worth it. Apparently we are so flush with SEC cash and this wonderful JMi deal. At least use it to get a coach that is capable.
 

Broker

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I would have rather than watch them win 3 in 4 years. And 7 titles in under 30 years.
Probably will piss off most but it will possibly be 15 years before we are in the final four. NIL has taken all the teeth out of "BLUE BLOODS." We have the same odds as Auburn, Texas, Tennessee, Louisville, Iowa State, UCLA, and many others in reaching the final four. Schools with the biggest NIL pot will be the final four guys. Many schools are much more wealthy than we are.
 
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*Fox2Monk*

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Hurley was offered God level money supposedly. The answer was no. So, that's no happening. Why would I leave a job where I potentially win the title 3 our of 4 years to come? There's no selling point. Remember, our history has less weight in the NIL era.

Golden should be on that list. For sure.

Oats I'm not as wild about. He's slipped a smidge in the last couple of years and you have the off court baggage. Remember...spotlight and microscope are bigger than they would be at Bama.
Not every coach is embedded in an area where their wife won’t leave.
 

*Fox2Monk*

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We took a chance with Pope and it's not working. You can't take two chances in a row a fail. Well, you can but it puts you in a deeper hole. Next coach can't be a "Well, lets see what happens."
Exactly. So you start with the best and make everyone of them say no first and keep going down the list.
 

TTTblue24

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Shows doing a FF game??? They must really be needing referees if that’s the best they can trot out there. And is that sirmons as well??? All they need now is pretty boy Lindsay for the trifecta.
 

*Fox2Monk*

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Probably will piss off most but it will possibly be 15 years before we are in the final four. NIL has taken all the teeth out of "BLUE BLOODS." We have the same odds as Auburn, Texas, Tennessee, Louisville, Iowa State, UCLA, and many others in reaching the final four. Schools with the biggest NIL pot will be the final four guys. Many schools are much more wealthy than we are.
We have enough to compete.
 
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You go make them an offer they have to think about hard. You just do it if you want to be elite.
I just can't make myself believe Barnhart actually tried. We have rumors that he went after Hirley. Okay so Hurley said no... maybe... say he did YOU STLLL HAVE TO search hard l, like you said make offers they can't refuse. A Coaching search is not something where you can just settle for whatever whatever you get