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Aardvark86

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Zero awareness achieved:


Ooops. That's setting the bar pretty high (or is it low?) for day 1.

My all time favorite DC law enforcement/stupid protestor moment predates 9/11. Recall the old world bank protests, when the anarchy industrial complex organized massive demonstrations for downtown. Included in that protest was a "bicycle brigade" (green energy and all, before it was cool). On the big day, the bike brigade came riding down 13th street, escorted front and back by a slow moving police cruiser. A very festive atmosphere. They went straight to lafayette square, where a smiling chief ramsay greeted them and waived them into a "park". But the park happened to be partially enclosed, and when the last cyclist passed him, it became fully enclosed, at which point they were all arrested, and carted off for processing. The disbelief in their eyes was palpable, with many asking whether the cops were going to bring their bikes with them.

Problem solved, and on to the marchers on foot. That was a little messier, but equally as funny. One of my buddies used to be a DC AUSA, and a cop buddy told him about a protestor who chained himself to the axle of a police van. So one of the cops who drew the short stick has to get him out. The cop crawls under the van, and says to the guy, "I'm only going to ask you this once - do you have the key so that I can unlock you?" The guy responds to the effect of "FU, Pig!" So the cop crawls out and grabs the biggest, nastiest looking set of powered bolt cutters (think jaws of life) he can find in the truck and drags them back under the van. He says, "now look, I'm going to have to cut you out of here, but I need you to be really still, because the last time i had to do this I cut a couple of a guy's fingers off." Guy immediately starts yelling "the key's in my pocket, the key's in my pocket!!!!"

Just classic.
 
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PalmettoTiger1

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That one warrants an eyeroll for the ages.

On a somewhat more serious note though, one of the bigger long term things I worry about is that AI is eventually going to replace certain jobs, and people aren't going to be prepared for it. In particular, the knowledge industry (lawyers, consultants, etc.) will likely be first, rather than last, and will be least suited for what's out there until we go full on marxist techno-philosophy where "work" is really just "play" because the machines do the work. The "production" industries are likely to have a little more staying power. So, being a lawyer, I've been brushing up on my gardening.
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I must agree to the nth degree what a moronic take that Trump is going to develop the field helpers by deporting Hispanic and arresting black folk to replace them in the crop fields
 
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TigerRagRob

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Yeah! Let's get them....

Oh right, the facts don't support any of this ********.
since when did you tards care about facts. Your side said it wasnt possible to shutdown the border for decades. Trump did it almost overnight. You said Trump couldnt bring back jobs to America. Obama mocked him for this. Then Trump did it and you clowns cried about it. You guys are always on the wrong side of every 80-20 issue and you dont care about the people. All you care about is your power. Thats why your polls are at all time lows. Even when you fought to keep slavery your polls were slightly higher than now. Harder for you guys to fool people now days and thats why Trump won the popular vote also. Huge mandate from the American people. But dont learn just keep doing whats has been failing you. Its insanity and further proves you are a cult with a sever case of TDS.
 
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baltimorened

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I'm pretty worried about the Federal Government expansion of power, particularly when it's based on inaccurate half truths.
well, I agree with you on federal expansion. That's why I support efforts to return issues like education, SNAP, Medicaid and other federal programs to the states. There was a WSJ article not long ago that pointed out the % of state budgets are dependent on federal government grants. It's not unusual for that number to be 40%. Think about that...40% of a states operating budget comes from Washington. So Washington collects the taxes, appropriates to federal departments who pay for building maintenance, salaries etc and then send what's left to the states.

Inaccurate information is inaccurate to the beholder. Folks came unglued when Trump fired the BLS head. Yet, as you look at the level of corrections on jobs, the information coming out each month was off in May from 144000 to 19000 and June was revised from 147000 to 14000.....previous corrections were upward of 1 million jobs.

Statisticians can manipulate numbers to fit whatever narrative they want to support....somewhat wat you are referring to as half truths. And these half truths are not the sole domain of either political party. The only difference is Democrats call it lies when republicans do it and republicans call it "spin" when democrats do it. You don't need examples when trump does it, you know already. But look at what we've heard from democrats recently..millions will die if Medicaid is cut, trump will destroy the economy, tariffs will increase inflation, inflation is transitory.

You really can't take anything at 100% face value. We're being told what both sides want us to know. Face it, politics is a game, and we are the pawns.
 

yoshi121374

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since when did you tards care about facts. Your side it wasnt possible to shutdown the border for decades. Trump did it almost overnight. You said Trump couldnt bring back jobs to America. Obama mocked him for this. Then Trump did it and you clowns cried about it. You guys are always on the wrong side of every 80-20 issue and you dont care about the people. All you care about is your power. Thats why your polls are at all time lows. Even when you fought to keep slavery your polls were slightly higher than now. Harder for you guys to fool people now days and thats why Trump won the popular vote also. Huge mandate from the American people. But dont learn just keep doing whats has been failing you. Its insanity and further proves you are a cult with a sever case of TDS.

Get help.

Fought to keep slavery...

I always forget you are one of those folks who ignores actual history.
 
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yoshi121374

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well, I agree with you on federal expansion. That's why I support efforts to return issues like education, SNAP, Medicaid and other federal programs to the states. There was a WSJ article not long ago that pointed out the % of state budgets are dependent on federal government grants. It's not unusual for that number to be 40%. Think about that...40% of a states operating budget comes from Washington. So Washington collects the taxes, appropriates to federal departments who pay for building maintenance, salaries etc and then send what's left to the states.

Inaccurate information is inaccurate to the beholder. Folks came unglued when Trump fired the BLS head. Yet, as you look at the level of corrections on jobs, the information coming out each month was off in May from 144000 to 19000 and June was revised from 147000 to 14000.....previous corrections were upward of 1 million jobs.

Statisticians can manipulate numbers to fit whatever narrative they want to support....somewhat wat you are referring to as half truths. And these half truths are not the sole domain of either political party. The only difference is Democrats call it lies when republicans do it and republicans call it "spin" when democrats do it. You don't need examples when trump does it, you know already. But look at what we've heard from democrats recently..millions will die if Medicaid is cut, trump will destroy the economy, tariffs will increase inflation, inflation is transitory.

You really can't take anything at 100% face value. We're being told what both sides want us to know. Face it, politics is a game, and we are the pawns.


On the tax issue. You do realize that the top states who are sucking at the federal teat are all red states right?

On the job issue, he fired them when the number looked worse for him, not any of the times they were better? This process has been in place for decades and has always worked this way. The only reason this has become an issue is because Trump knows his tariffs are hurting job growth and the economy. They are absolutely causing inflation, and it's getting worse as companies have burned through stockpiles of supplies.
 
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TigerRagRob

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Trump is trying to replace the Latinos that he has deported and now there is a huge void in the production fields He plans to arrest these young black men and make them work in these fields at no cost. Sounds familiar like 1619-1866.
Same old playbook. Keep up with the gaslighting. The midterms cant get here soon enough.
 

baltimorened

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On the tax issue. You do realize that the top states who are sucking at the federal teat are all red states right?

On the job issue, he fired them when the number looked worse for him, not any of the times they were better? This process has been in place for decades and has always worked this way. The only reason this has become an issue is because Trump knows his tariffs are hurting job growth and the economy. They are absolutely causing inflation, and it's getting worse as companies have burned through stockpiles of supplies.
yes I know about red states or blue states. That's not the point of my post. we were posting about government expansion. Since you seem to bleed "blue" I'd think that letting blue states run their own programs. My other point was that we're taking money off the top at the DC level supporting a federal bureaucracy.

I wasn't posting about any specific individual liking or not liking numbers. Whether numbers are better or worse, isn't the issue the fact that the numbers are not correct. This isn't a Trump issue it's a government issue. At the latest FED MTG, for example, one of the factors in the decision not to cut rates was steady employment. The very next day the BLS reports on the corrections I posted above. So the data driven FED made a decision on bad data. And, yes, it has always been that way. Don't you think that may be we should clean that up? Why is everything about Trump? The BLS has been there for decades and they still don't get it right.
 

TigerRagRob

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Get help.

Fought to keep slavery...

I always forget you are one of those folks who ignores actual history.
you keep trying to rewrite history. Conservatives fought to end slavery and your side fought to keep slavery. Your side started the KKK. Our side started the NAACP. Your side had Jim Crow laws. Our side fought and died for civil rights. Im talking conservatives. You lunatics want to imprison or just kill anyone that doesnt agree with your racist fascist agenda. You are no different than the Taliban imo. You both are either Fascist and/or Authoritarian. Look how your side abused its power going after Trump after the statue of limitations had long past and lied and made up a Federal crime that he hadnt ever been charged or convicted of so they could upgrade the lesser crime to a felony. You clowns cheered that on. I dont think Trump should stoop to your level. Plenty of real crimes to go after them, dont need to make crap up like the left... You played the FAFO game, and you did it eagerly because you didnt think it would bite you in your own ***... Oh and yes just laugh it off. Because facts are not on your side and neither is history....
 
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yoshi121374

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yes I know about red states or blue states. That's not the point of my post. we were posting about government expansion. Since you seem to bleed "blue" I'd think that letting blue states run their own programs. My other point was that we're taking money off the top at the DC level supporting a federal bureaucracy.

I wasn't posting about any specific individual liking or not liking numbers. Whether numbers are better or worse, isn't the issue the fact that the numbers are not correct. This isn't a Trump issue it's a government issue. At the latest FED MTG, for example, one of the factors in the decision not to cut rates was steady employment. The very next day the BLS reports on the corrections I posted above. So the data driven FED made a decision on bad data. And, yes, it has always been that way. Don't you think that may be we should clean that up? Why is everything about Trump? The BLS has been there for decades and they still don't get it right.

It's about Trump because he only cared when it seemingly hurt him.

It's about Trump because he willfully lies and exaggerates.

For the record, I don't bleed blue, but I am 100% anti maga and what the MAGA movement is attempting to do to America. I'm absolutely disgusted by the rise of Christian Nationalism and what that means for women and minorites in America.

I have voted for Republicans in the past, and probably would in the future. I will never vote for a MAGA candidate.
 
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It's about Trump because he only cared when it seemingly hurt him.

It's about Trump because he willfully lies and exaggerates.

For the record, I don't bleed blue, but I am 100% anti maga and what the MAGA movement is attempting to do to America. I'm absolutely disgusted by the rise of Christian Nationalism and what that means for women and minorites in America.

I have voted for Republicans in the past, and probably would in the future. I will never vote for a MAGA candidate.
maybe you can help me. What is the definition of MAGA? I know that was trumps slogan, but when people say I'm anti maga, I honestly don't know what that means
 

fatpiggy

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DC native here with a ton of friends in the MPD.

He will lose in court on this and create a fuckton of confusion. He will piss of police and the FBI (whom he is assigning to night patrols). This is a waste of time, is terrible for the people of DC who live there and work there.

This is ******* wrong.
 
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DrTigerGoob

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Says he is coming for Chicago next. Good. There are literally sections of the city it's not safe to walk down the street. No cash bail has been a disaster.

You don't know that. You are just parroting what your Master is saying.
 

Statepawdog

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Right on young Lady! I said it before and I will say it again. This creature is worst than Hitler, Wallace, Thurmond, Bull Connor and Simon Legree combined. He is an embarrassment to Satan himself. On top of all his evil deeds, now we find out that he is a pedophile. God we beg that you take care of this awful creature.
 

firegiver

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Ooops. That's setting the bar pretty high (or is it low?) for day 1.

My all time favorite DC law enforcement/stupid protestor moment predates 9/11. Recall the old world bank protests, when the anarchy industrial complex organized massive demonstrations for downtown. Included in that protest was a "bicycle brigade" (green energy and all, before it was cool). On the big day, the bike brigade came riding down 13th street, escorted front and back by a slow moving police cruiser. A very festive atmosphere. They went straight to lafayette square, where a smiling chief ramsay greeted them and waived them into a "park". But the park happened to be partially enclosed, and when the last cyclist passed him, it became fully enclosed, at which point they were all arrested, and carted off for processing. The disbelief in their eyes was palpable, with many asking whether the cops were going to bring their bikes with them.

Problem solved, and on to the marchers on foot. That was a little messier, but equally as funny. One of my buddies used to be a DC AUSA, and a cop buddy told him about a protestor who chained himself to the axle of a police van. So one of the cops who drew the short stick has to get him out. The cop crawls under the van, and says to the guy, "I'm only going to ask you this once - do you have the key so that I can unlock you?" The guy responds to the effect of "FU, Pig!" So the cop crawls out and grabs the biggest, nastiest looking set of powered bolt cutters (think jaws of life) he can find in the truck and drags them back under the van. He says, "now look, I'm going to have to cut you out of here, but I need you to be really still, because the last time i had to do this I cut a couple of a guy's fingers off." Guy immediately starts yelling "the key's in my pocket, the key's in my pocket!!!!"

Just classic.
hahah yah the curtailing of people's rights is so funny
 

dpic73

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LafayetteBear

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A quick check of Google suggests that you are mistaken. Are you citing the Rasmussen Poll? (Snicker.)

Comparing President Trump's current approval rating (in the second term of his 47th presidency) to President Obama's at a comparable point in his second term:

  • President Trump's approval rating as of August 14, 2025, is 41%. His approval rating has seen some fluctuation, with a recent low of 37% in mid-July but an average of 40% in the second quarter of his second term (April 20 - July 19).
  • President Obama's approval ratings in the second quarter of his second term (April 20 – July 19, 2013) were below 50%. Looking specifically at August 2012 (during his re-election campaign, which was during the fourth year of his first term, not his second term), his approval ratings were generally in the low 40% range. However, at a comparable point in his second term (e.g., May 2013), his approval was 51%, and by October, it had declined to 43%.
Conclusion: Based on the available data, President Trump's current approval rating is lower than President Obama's was during the second quarter of his second term (2013). At that time, Obama's approval was below 50% but generally higher than Trump's current standing, according to the sources available.
 

fatpiggy

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A quick check of Google suggests that you are mistaken. Are you citing the Rasmussen Poll? (Snicker.)

Comparing President Trump's current approval rating (in the second term of his 47th presidency) to President Obama's at a comparable point in his second term:

  • President Trump's approval rating as of August 14, 2025, is 41%. His approval rating has seen some fluctuation, with a recent low of 37% in mid-July but an average of 40% in the second quarter of his second term (April 20 - July 19).
  • President Obama's approval ratings in the second quarter of his second term (April 20 – July 19, 2013) were below 50%. Looking specifically at August 2012 (during his re-election campaign, which was during the fourth year of his first term, not his second term), his approval ratings were generally in the low 40% range. However, at a comparable point in his second term (e.g., May 2013), his approval was 51%, and by October, it had declined to 43%.
Conclusion: Based on the available data, President Trump's current approval rating is lower than President Obama's was during the second quarter of his second term (2013). At that time, Obama's approval was below 50% but generally higher than Trump's current standing, according to the sources available.
"according to the source available" - i.e. made up ********.

Remember google barely knows what a white man is.
 

baltimorened

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Typical MAGAS, if you don't like the numbers, say they are fake and lie.
what is a MAGA? a trump supporter, a far right person a republican? Different people seem to have different definitions.

I agree with you assessment on numbers. Both parties seem to be able to come up with numbers to support their positions. Not sure what difference approval numbers mean at this point anyway, Trump has 3 1/2 years left we can't recall him.
 

yoshi121374

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what is a MAGA? a trump supporter, a far right person a republican? Different people seem to have different definitions.

I agree with you assessment on numbers. Both parties seem to be able to come up with numbers to support their positions. Not sure what difference approval numbers mean at this point anyway, Trump has 3 1/2 years left we can't recall him.

I would say MAGA are the Trump syncophants who agree wholeheartedly with everything he is doing and follow. Examples on this board would be @TigerGrowls and @PalmettoTiger1. If Trump killed someone on 5th avenue live on video they would immediately come up with tweets and excuses on why it was necessary.

I wouldn't include you in that since I have seen you criticize his behavior.
 
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I would say MAGA are the Trump syncophants who agree wholeheartedly with everything he is doing and follow. Examples on this board would be @TigerGrowls and @PalmettoTiger1. If Trump killed someone on 5th avenue live on video they would immediately come up with tweets and excuses on why it was necessary.

I wouldn't include you in that since I have seen you criticize his behavior.
I'm still of the belief, from the people who I talk with, who I know voted for Trump, that they are in agreement with the top line of his policies, like deporting undocumented people in the country, but not the process, grabbing them off the streets and "disappearing" them.

Similarly, I don't know anybody who voted for Trump that particularly likes his demeanor. But, I will be honest and say most have accepted the hyperbole - best ever, nobody does it better, I know better than anybody, etc. That's why I said I didn't pay any attention to the statements "I'll end inflation on day 1", or I'll end the war in Ukraine on day 1". I didn't think either was feasible..just bluster and hyperbole. But Trump doesn't have a patent on hyperbole, all politicians do it.
 
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yoshi121374

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I'm still of the belief, from the people who I talk with, who I know voted for Trump, that they are in agreement with the top line of his policies, like deporting undocumented people in the country, but not the process, grabbing them off the streets and "disappearing" them.

Similarly, I don't know anybody who voted for Trump that particularly likes his demeanor. But, I will be honest and say most have accepted the hyperbole - best ever, nobody does it better, I know better than anybody, etc. That's why I said I didn't pay any attention to the statements "I'll end inflation on day 1", or I'll end the war in Ukraine on day 1". I didn't think either was feasible..just bluster and hyperbole. But Trump doesn't have a patent on hyperbole, all politicians do it.

I agree that most politicians exaggerate, but you have to admit that we have never seen anyone do it to the degree and frequency of Donald Trump. If his mouths moving he's lying. We have never seen a politician act and treat people like Donald Trump.

The difference with myself I guess is even though some of his policies will help me it isn't worth it for the rhetoric and hate he is encouraging.

I've said this before. I don't think all MAGAS are racists and hate mongers but the racists and hate mongers sure are all MAGAS.
 
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TigerGrowls

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I would say MAGA are the Trump syncophants who agree wholeheartedly with everything he is doing and follow. Examples on this board would be @TigerGrowls and @PalmettoTiger1. If Trump killed someone on 5th avenue live on video they would immediately come up with tweets and excuses on why it was necessary.

I wouldn't include you in that since I have seen you criticize his behavior.
Incorrect loser. I do support Trump due to sustained high performance, keeping his campaign promises and working his rear off to make America better. He is doing stuff I would do if I was in control. That simple.
 

MTTiger19

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"according to the source available" - i.e. made up ********.

Remember google barely knows what a white man is.
Google had created such a woke disaster of an AI - Gemini - that it would create images of black and Asian nazis when asked to create images of German soldiers in WW2. Gemini and Google are trash.
 

yoshi121374

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The left fought a war to keep slavery. The conservatives won the 1860 election to end slavery. But keep trying to rewrite history because its not kind to your kind...

The fact that you willfully ignore that the Southern Democrats became Republicans during the civil rights movement is insane to me.

It's such a weird gotcha attempt that just makes you look ignorant.


From AI :

The Democratic Party played a significant role in the Civil Rights Movement, particularly in the 1960s, with landmark legislation like the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 being championed by Democratic presidents and lawmakers. However, the party's relationship with the movement was complex, with Southern Democrats initially resistant to civil rights reforms.

Here's a more detailed look:
Key Democratic Figures and Legislation:
President Lyndon B. Johnson: A key figure in advancing civil rights legislation, including the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

Civil Rights Act of 1964: This landmark law outlawed discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin.

Voting Rights Act of 1965: This act prohibited racial discrimination in voting.

Historical Context:

Pre-1960s:
The Democratic Party was more divided on civil rights, with Southern Democrats strongly opposing integration and federal intervention.

Post-1960s:
The Democratic Party largely shifted to support civil rights, becoming more aligned with the pro-civil rights movement, particularly in the North.
The Great Migration:
The movement of African Americans from the South to the North contributed to the Democratic Party's shift. Black voters became a significant and increasingly important constituency in Northern cities, influencing the party's platform and policies.
Southern Strategy:
The Republican Party, in contrast, began to appeal to white voters in the South who were traditionally Democratic but opposed to civil rights reforms, a strategy known as the "Southern Strategy".
Challenges and Complexity:
Southern Resistance:
Despite the Democratic Party's overall shift, Southern Democrats initially resisted civil rights legislation, often using filibusters and other tactics to block or delay progress.
Racial Polarization:
The civil rights movement and the Democratic Party's response contributed to a significant shift in the racial makeup of the two major parties. White Southerners increasingly became Republicans, while Black voters largely remained with the Democratic Party.
 
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PalmettoTiger1

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I would say MAGA are the Trump syncophants who agree wholeheartedly with everything he is doing and follow. Examples on this board would be @TigerGrowls and @PalmettoTiger1. If Trump killed someone on 5th avenue live on video they would immediately come up with tweets and excuses on why it was necessary.

I wouldn't include you in that since I have seen you criticize his behavior.

@yoshi121374

Thank you for complimenting my choice of who I associate with.

The reason I agree with Trump do much is because in general he is so right.

I prefer being right in reality to bring loud and wrong.

Please you flatter me and make my day when you associate me with agreeing with Trump in most of his policy decisions.

I laugh every day at people who never attack policy but are manic against the word Trump.

Let’s just start with the Fake Russia Russia Russia
attempt at a coup against an elected sitting US President.

You were all over that and to this day are all in on that fraud. That speaks to who you are.

Me I prefer to the goals of building a better America for all including you.

Unfortunately the construction has to proceed in spite of having dead weight like you on the payroll who will get the benefits without having to put in the skin to the game. LUCKY YOU
 
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yoshi121374

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@yoshi121374

Thank you for complimenting my choice of who I associate with.

The reason I agree with Trump do much is because in general he is so right.

I prefer being right in reality to bring loud and wrong.

Please you flatter me and make my day when you associate me with agreeing with Trump in most of his policy decisions.

I laugh every day at people who never attack policy but are manic against the word Trump.

Let’s just start with the Fake Russia Russia Russia
attempt at a coup against an elected sitting US President.

You were all over that and to this day are all in on that fraud. That speaks to who you are.

Me I prefer to the goals of building a better America for all including you.

Unfortunately the construction has to proceed in spite of having dead weight like you on the payroll who will get the benefits without having to put in the skin to the game. LUCKY YOU