How does this protect him for the draft? Are you alleging that PJ is healthy enough to play, but isn't playing merely because of the draft? That very well could hurt his draft stock, and, just as bad, he isn't locked in as a top 10 pick. With a great tournament he could go higher on the draft boards. So, it could hurt him to sit out the tournament entirely and not help him. So, again, how is Cal protecting him for the draft?
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How does this protect him for the draft? Are you alleging that PJ is healthy enough to play, but isn't playing merely because of the draft? That very well could hurt his draft stock, and, just as bad, he isn't locked in as a top 10 pick. With a great tournament he could go higher on the draft boards. So, it could hurt him to sit out the tournament entirely and not help him. So, again, how is Cal protecting him for the draft?
So, are you trying to ease UK fans into preparing for PJ not playing until the Final 4 with this post?
It sure sounds like it.
The people around PJ don’t want him to play. They’re not dumb. They saw what the Vanderbilt’s did last year. Cal can’t come out and say it though.
Respect the attempt here to fish out more info. I don't have all the answers and I've seen how non-absolute answers go around here.
From what I understand, hard casting vs. boot is a newer concept amongst medical professionals due to some studies showing it can be beneficial for not only long term healing but short term as well. For us old heads who broke arms on skateboards in middle school, it seems worse than it is. Notice the hard cast was above the injury and he still maintained the soft boot?
I don't know where in the foot the injury is at. That type of information isn't going to leak out because of potential ramifications for his future earnings. Being tagged as a player with foot injures (they typically linger) - that can be damaging and hard to overcome.
It's my understanding it's not an overly serious injury. 20 years ago, tape and spit would have been enough.
Cal knew as early as Wednesday he wasn't playing this weekend IMO. I think he plays next weekend if we make it.
Sounds like someone needs to introduce PJ to Jeff Shepard.
But to each his own
But to each his own
Also, why can't Cal just come out and say that PJ won't be available for the tournament? Why can't he just say the injury is too bad? That would have the same effect of protecting him, and would end all speculation about it and would actually be better for PJ because then everyone would just feel sorry for him instead of this silly blame game. So, if Cal is okay with this and is protecting him why not just shut him down entirely instead of acting like it is possible he comes back?
Also, not entirely sure why people think Vanderbilt was playing some sort of game. From what I know the guy sat out until January before finally recovering from an injury. So, was he really just faking it while at UK? Where do you get that?
Why do you say 'Let's ride Travis all the way to FF.' ? Makes me think you know something and PJ is out for that long.
PJ's injury developments are new. This hasn't been kno
Staff still has hope he will play. It comes down to PJ (and of course the foot to some degree). If PJ couldn't play, then the staff would declare. I couldn't imagine the team is interested in answering PJ questions for the next 3 weeks (hopefully LOL).
Jarred is a great kid with a lot of outside influence. Cal depends on the players to give him feedback... if the player doesn't want to play, he won't be pressured to.
Staff still has hope he will play. It comes down to PJ (and of course the foot to some degree). If PJ couldn't play, then the staff would declare. I couldn't imagine the team is interested in answering PJ questions for the next 3 weeks (hopefully LOL).
Jarred is a great kid with a lot of outside influence. Cal depends on the players to give him feedback... if the player doesn't want to play, he won't be pressured to.
OK, your posts are really starting to sound like he's out longer than just Saturday.
You didn’t answer his question though. How exactly is Cal protecting his draft status?
In other words, what exactly is Cal doing and how are Cal’s actions going to change the minds of NBA GMs when they evaluate PJ?
Because these dipshits don’t use logic and assume the worst because they think these kids owe them something.
It’s like they think PJ is wearing a fake cast and this is all made up. J. Vanderbilt really turned some of us into nutjob conspiracy kooks.
This is beyond stupid. How is he protecting him for the draft? This isn't a serious career ending injury he has. PJ is going to get fully examined by NBA doctors before he is considered being drafted. This is just so dumb.
Imagine basically calling a player a ***** who's injured on a basketball forum
Not to mention Vanderbilt didn’t play his first NBA game until Feb. 28. He was legitimately injured, but muh fandom ...
Part of the problem for me is he played in the second half vs Tennessee.
I just don’t buy that PJ’s injury is that bad at all. Looked great against UT then all of the sudden he’s walking around like he’s crippled a couple of days later. PJ’s moved up to a first round pick, he probably had some pain in his foot, the people around him say “let’s shut it down and not risk any type of injury thay could hurt his draft status” and now Cal has to go out there and say “he wants to play but I’m holding it out”. It’s so transparent.
But what if...stay with me here...WHAT IF he didn't hurt his foot until late in the second half of that game?
I recall PJ missing a bunny shot that he normally would have hit. And, didn't he also try a putback? He didn't have any elevation on that shot or the putback. I would assume that he was hurt about that time.
Personally, I find these kinds of threads pretty useless. Some poster gives a lot of "inside" info that really is what we already knew or could figure out easily. I doubt seriously if PJ plays on Saturday because, as someone said, he is in a hard cast. Beyond that, it is pure speculation.
In your rush to virtue signal you are leaving out he was cleared by doctors mid year, Cal voiced frustration and made cryptic comments as did others around the program around that time, and then was actually injured again later in the year and held out.
It's so transparent? PJ doesn't want to sit out for the draft. I doubt his dad does either. When he's healthy he will play
How does Cal lying about this protect his draft stock? If what you’re alleging about PJ is true, then Cal had a couple of options:
- Come out and said that PJ wants to shut it down to avoid injury
- Or, lie to the media and say that PJ wants to play but that he’s going to be held out due to Cal being extra cautious
Cal isn’t trying to protect PJ’s stock. His handlers are. Cal has to go out and cover for it like he did Vanderbilt.
Cal always plays games with injuries even if he knows the guy isn’t playing. Have you not been paying attention for the last decade?
Funny, the OP immediately threw out the " I come here for recruiting, as i do not have sources for that." Trying to throw the dogs off the scent of the insider he was at first. Poor ole Coach11, got ran for being a fraud assistant coach with recruiting inside info, now he has to come back as a friend of boosters and financial planners with injury info.
Some people will stop at nothing to FEEL important.
Could those same boosters and financial planners not gain recruiting info the same as they do medical info ?
Booster - "Look i will give you medical insider stuff, but when it comes to recruiting, i can not share it with you."
Financial planner - "Yes, what booster guy said."
LOL.
Some people will stop at nothing to FEEL important.
Could those same boosters and financial planners not gain recruiting info the same as they do medical info ?
Booster - "Look i will give you medical insider stuff, but when it comes to recruiting, i can not share it with you."
Financial planner - "Yes, what booster guy said."
LOL.
No one is calling anyone anything.
If you or anyone else don't like that some are puzzled by all this, then I don't know what to tell you.
The OP stated he had facts. OK. If you read them, it sure sounds like PJ is possibly being held back for draft purposes to some degree.
Maybe it is harsh for some too except, but many of us old guys are used to seeing players suit up and go with "mild" sprains as Coach Cal has called it.
Is it worse than a mild sprain? That is what many of us are wondering.
I have been asked by countless people today about his interview last night saying his pain was a 10 and then was seen jumping around smiling during the game.
I took it as he was wanting to play, maybe going to get back soon, like this weekend with seeing his actions. But not everyone, including many sportscasters who saw the same thing and are like, "wow" is he in pain?
Sorry if you can't understand fans like me do not think we should have to get the "facts' from some online board and question things that do not add up.
Yes, I do question players today and their ability to fight thru adversity. It is not only in sports snowflake, but in real life as well.
I'm still just setting here trying to figure out HOW he got injured. I've already succumbed to the fact he's out tomorrow, but for the life of me can't figure out what happened.
What positivity? There's definitely positivity in the post about the matchup against Wofford, but I don't see any positivity about PJ returning. This post doesn't even make it sound like he'll be back by next weekend.
Nothing around this whole fiasco makes any sense
If Cal’s not trying to protect his stock, then why did you say “Cal’s protecting him for the draft” in one of your earlier posts?