Expectations vs reality
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Allen has actually been better in every category but 3 point shooting. It further highlights your point though. Improvement is hard to predict. Measurable, in game improvement in performance isn't solely tied to the development of the individual players skills, but it can also be context dependent. A new coach at Golden State telling Steph Curry to shoot more two's would make Curry seem worse even though his skills haven't changed, for example.
Nobody....UK will end their program apparently. WIll be sad.....I guess Rupp becomes home to an NBA team
What had Pitino won before he got here. What had Tubby won? That's your criteria? No coach since Rupp would have been hired then.
Everyone knew Pitino was a homerun hire..as I said, I never wanted Tub..was shocked he won a title....Oats might be a good replacement, but I wouldn't trade at this time.....If you're a Cal hater just admit it..
Since Cal has been at Kentucky, Jay and Villanova exited in the 2nd round in 10 and 11, was 13-19 in 2011-12 and missed the tournament, lost in the 3rd round, 3rd round, and the 2nd round twice sandwiched in between their two National Titles.
Cal at UK in the same time period went Elite 8, FF, NC, NIT, NC Runner up, FF, Round of 32, Elite 8, Sweet 16, and Elite 8. Went 9-16 last year and missed the tournament.
In the same time period Roy went Elite 8, Elite 8, Round of 32, Round of 32, Sweet 16, NC Runner up, NC, Round of 32, Sweet 16, and they were 14-19 when the season was cancelled due to Covid while Cal and Kentucky were 25-6. Last year UNC was 18-11 and lost in the 1st round of the NCAA Tournament. Oh, and their new coach is Hubert Davis...
I'm not at all. Maybe you're not aware of this, but UK existed before Cal and will exist after him. It survived Rupp retiring, it will definitely survive Cal.
Don’t have a name for you, I’m not making the hire. But if I was, it would be someone the Cal nut hangers wouldn’t want. That would be a sure sign of a good start.
I'm not saying UK would have to close shop...but I do know not many out there that would come that's better
I don’t either. But the ones that matter do. When did they stop making good coaches?
I honestly thought we would have two titles under Cal by now. I feel he will end the Final Four drought sometime soon and I do hope he can add another title before he retires. I had hoped we would have gained more on UCLA in all time titles but I've given up on catching them in my lifetime, dang it. I think Cal will do fine in recruiting but feel his time of dominance is behind him, unfortunately.
How do we know that? I agree Cal has it in him if he can re-ignite that fire he had when he came.
Eventually though, whether he leaves or retires, UK will have to hire a coach.
After reading 7 pages of comments, you are the first person to actually mention his in-game coaching. This is Cal’s biggest flaw in my opinion. Last year we were all excited about Sarr and it was said he was the missing piece. Cal refused to use him for his strengths and was a big part of his bad year. We all were yelling for Mintz to be our point guard after Askew was clearly not but he refused until it was too late. Now we have one of the most experienced 3 point shooters in college basketball but we run no plays for him. He is the highest paid coach, has unlimited resources and to his credit brings in so much talent. But the fact that we have no offensive identity with all the experience we have on this years team tells me he will never change and is why I see him as another HOF coach like Bobby Knight that was the best until his ego got in the way when the game changed and he is unwilling too. How many times after a game you can honestly say to yourself, Cal out coached his opponent. Not many. Again, highest paid coach that went 9-16 with a top 2 recruiting class. BTW, Boston is a completely different player this year with a coach that knows how to get the best out of players.
Cal coached Murray and Monk to tremendous 3 pt shooting seasons, all of a sudden he doesnt know how to get players open 3s????
Doesnt sound plausible my dude
Apparently you haven’t watched one game this year. Again, that was 4/5 years ago. Have you witnessed anything that resembles getting your best shooters open? Didn’t think so
Ive watched every minute of every game this year and ive seen alot of missed wide open shots, is that cal's fault or do you just want him to keep forcing shots to our 3 pt shooters so they can keep missing?
Grady is shooting 42.1% from 3’s this year. You might want to pay more attention to the games
Yup and he was 3-4 for the first half the last game, second half he was 0-3 all wide open; so how many more shots should he have been allowed to miss?
Apparently Jonny you don’t understand basketball very much. Grady’s shooting is on par with Lamb. That percentage is extremely high for any great 3 point shooter. It’s obvious to me you are a Cal fan and statistics won’t change your mind. Yes, Cal is a HOF coach, the best ever and deserves more than a million dollars a win. He can flat out coach. Same offense since he’s been here
The same offense youre trashing is responsible for getting Murray and Monk multiple games of 6 or more made threes, Doron Lamb had alot of those games too including in the championship game, so when is the last time a UK player hit 6 or more 3s in a game? If its happened under Cal before does that mean its the fault of the offense or the players not making shots????
Edit: Quickley had 1 or 2 of these games so obviously the offense is conducive to 3 pt shooters but they have to make the shots
Who’s the best 3 pointer shooter of all time…Steph Curry. He is shooting 41.3% this year and that is the focal point every game and is why they win so many games and have one of the best records this year. Grady is our 5th option on offense. Is that really good coaching? No it’s not
How do you know hes our 5th option, it looks to me like hes our 2nd option but the opposing teams have successfully taken him away, and when they dont hes missing shots lately
A perfect example of his offensive coaching inabilities, is this Notre Dame game. My goodness he’s bad.
This isn't the same offense man. How can you say this team plays the same offense as any of his previous teams AFTER saying you've watched every minute of UK ball this season?
This offense is completely different. It’s mostly long two pointers and no rim runs.
Now, that is funny. It's funny because it's true.
How many years of crap teams will it take to convince the Cal fans that he refuses to modernize his offense
Those Cal fans are just like him…PRIDEFUL. They will continue to make excuses for him while it’s so clear to any college basketball fan how atrocious our offense is with the talent we have. It’s embarrassing and I try so hard to route for Cal but with every bad offensive game plan, I can’t. I love UK basketball, not Cal.
If this is the case, he should have quit coaching after that miserable loss to Kansas in the final game when he was at Memphis. I thought that game was just an aberration but I'm not so sure anymore.
Ive been defending Cal on here for weeks, but this ND game is breaking me.
Don’t ever
Don’t ever take up for Cal for his offensive philosophy. He is a terrible in-game coach and he just showed you 40 minutes of proof. We just got beat by a 3-4 team. Please wake up.
We’re stuck with him unfortunately. He’s killing everything that this program stands for and we're well on our way back to mediocrity.