**** gets real. I go home, turn on my gaming PC and play some war of rights.
Expectations vs reality
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“A bounce of a ball” could be said about practically every season Tubby Smith had after his first. But I get it , excuses make everything acceptable. lol . And are we just going to overlook the the 2016 sweet sixteen loss to Indiana ?
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I Think it all the time. And MD55 was one of the worlds best at nailing them on that ****. Now he’s one of them.
I know some of you are Reds fans so don’t take it the wrong way. Just trying to apply some context. He once ignored a poster for asking why he goes on 10 page diatribes about the Reds from the 1800’s while skipping over to a Kansas thread and blasting them for “old sht that doesn’t matter”.
He would blast Kansas for excuses as to why they can’t get to the final four, only to now be a complete hand job for our coach when he’s on droughts.
Anyone who has watched his posting for years knows he has absolutely no credibility. It’s actually sad seeing it. I hate Kansas more than anyone but I’m consistent.
I go out and look for UFOs.
And if you notice my avatar I find them.
Pretty sure they belong to the United States government.
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Yeah but he goes into lockup...He gets off work, of course.
Cal determined what his legacy was going to be day one here. To his credit, he hasn’t veered. Credit where it’s due yadayada...
If he is really a fan, he sure has been MIA for the past 4-5 years.
Guess he doesn't have enough time or money to get to OUR games anymore. But he CAN get to Duke games now........just like all the top Nike recruits........hmmmm.
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Ive actually changed a few minds. I won’t name the posters, but I’ve had two different private messages from long time posters telling me I’ve been right and they now see it differently. Not a big deal, but yea people’s minds are changed. And one of those was from a well known po Cal guy that suddenly changed about a year ago. Maybe someone can guess it. He would come at me pretty hard and now just fully agrees. Lol. Pretty wild.
Now if someone is dead set to defend Cal over program, then no. But most people are UK first, they’ve just gone off the rails a little bit because he is a dynamite salesman with swag.
I really think us humans are the real aliens.
We have never figured out how to coexist on earth. We must be aliens.
The recruiting has fallen off. Beating ranked opponents has fallen off. The Ol' iffin game doesn't change that.
If you go back to when Cal first came and compare it to now, which player on this team could start on those early Cal teams? Oscar and Washington maybe?
OH,I thought he started drinkingHe gets off work, of course.
Co-exists is a weird and overrated thing. Too Peloshi-germanated . Squabbling is meant to be. I don’t want to live all touchy-feels. Gives me the willy’s. That’s just me, I respect other opinions
Speaking of aliens... I think they like bass. Gnoimsayin!!!
UK wasn't eligible for the post season in Pitino's first 2 years. There was not NCAA tourney in Rupp's first 9 seasons.
Rupp = 6 (32 years) 1 every 5.3 years
Hall = 3 (13 years) 1 every 4.3 years
Pitino = 3 (6 years) 1every 2 years
Smith = 1 (10 years) 1 every 10 years
Cal = 3 (12 years) 1 every 4 years
Cal is basically doing the same as Joe B Hall and people wanted him gone.
I expected a couple titles.
But there is a clear cut off point between 2015 and 2016. Cal’s success post-2015 took a big drop off (sans 2017.)
Delete it if you want....in the future all we can discuss is next year's class and how Higgins screwed UK. Thanks for the heads up.
Oh, and when the insiders tell us what's up? Those always pan out.
The word to describe the 2020 team was upredictable. They could beat top 10 teams of Louisville and Michigan State, or lose to the Utahs and Evansvilles. We’ll never know if the could have made an UCLA type run. It’s best to not assume either way and judge them on the games they played.
So you think Cal is still getting the top kids? Ahh yes, as I predicted, the wait til next year's class gets here post. So predictable.
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You think those people would put him on top in modern history, like since 2015 ? Lol . Let’s look at our NCAA wins since (evidently) Wisconsin took Cal’s soul .
2016 -Beat Stoneybrook
2017- Beat Northern Ky , Wichita St., UCLA (good win)
2018- Beat Davidson , Buffalo
2019-Beat Albene Christian, Wolford, Houston
So basically, except for 2017 we’ve lost to the first good team we’ve played in the NCAA tournament.
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I get it...but again, I think a 30 win season and another '20 where we would very likely win 29-30 games minimum is a good season.
There aren't bad 30 win seasons...they don't exist.
I agree about K state but poor free throw shooting is the only reason Aurburn one lus it’s very difficult to beat a fellow conference team 3 times in a year.
"Cover your ears Darling..."
He’s slightly underperformed my expectations. I thought we’d win 2 titles if he was here a decade plus. Most other things have met expectations. Missing the tournament twice and having a losing season are not things I dreamed to be possible.
I’m not a “expects to win the title every year regardless of roster makeup or national landscape” kind of fan. I expect to be in contention for a title every year. In my opinion Cal achieved this in 2010, 2011, 2012, 2014* (team didn’t seem like a contender but got hot at just the right time), 2015, 2017, 2019, 2020. The 2013 team was bad, but lost its best player to injury. 2016 and 2018 were tournament teams, but never a serious threat. Last year was an embarrassment to the game of basketball and our tradition.
Cal needs to get back to the FF soon or the pressure will be unbearable. This fanbase isn’t known for its patience.
I’m not a “expects to win the title every year regardless of roster makeup or national landscape” kind of fan. I expect to be in contention for a title every year. In my opinion Cal achieved this in 2010, 2011, 2012, 2014* (team didn’t seem like a contender but got hot at just the right time), 2015, 2017, 2019, 2020. The 2013 team was bad, but lost its best player to injury. 2016 and 2018 were tournament teams, but never a serious threat. Last year was an embarrassment to the game of basketball and our tradition.
Cal needs to get back to the FF soon or the pressure will be unbearable. This fanbase isn’t known for its patience.
I'm going to respond one more time in case some of you are sincere in your belief that the 2016-2021 window of FIVE seasons in which Calipari only went as far as the Elite Eight twice is some irrefutable evidence that he is washed up.
I invite you to look at the career of Mike K. at Duke. You know how many times he advanced as far as the Elite Eight in the eight seasons between 2002 and 2009? Once. Even after that he had seasons where he lost to 15 seeds (LeHigh) and 14 seeds (Mercer.) And yet I'd bet you wouldn't argue he was washed up because of the 2002 to 2009 stretch, or the horrible NCAA losses in 2012 and 2014.
You want every season at Kentucky to be 2012 or 1996. It doesn't happen. For any program. Calipari has sustained his success as much as anyone out there. And there are positive signs that Kentucky is on an upswing with a rebuilt staff and strong recruiting classes already on the way the next couple years.
That's it for me on this thread. I have no illusions I can convince people who have developed some emotional distaste for Cal that overrides their ability to see the truth.
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Agree.....asterisk on the '15 season though....wink wink
Indiana and auburn and kstate weren't even that good.
On cal I figured 1 title and a few final fours and then on to nba. Maybe he should have left after 2015.
Uk coaches suck at winning national titles so not surprised he hasn't won a 2nd. Other than Rupp all our coaches have been choke artist extraordinaires in winning a 2nd title.
Coach K has shown the ability to change. I haven’t seen that from our coach. Anyway , nothing personal with you brother . We just don’t see things the same . It will play out one way or the other.
By any objective measure, he has exceeded expectations. The only knock against him has come from Haters and the what have you done for me lately crowd. Both of these groups are clearly incapable of objectively assessing coaching performance. They depend only on single stat assessments and strategies attributable to PlayStation experience alone. Utter comedy.
Squabbling is ok. All this killing.......now that's another issue.Co-exists is a weird and overrated thing. Too Peloshi-germanated . Squabbling is meant to be. I don’t want to live all touchy-feels. Gives me the willy’s. That’s just me, I respect other opinions
Cain whacked his brother and we've been doing each other ever since.
You‘re using the same material you used to defend your tubby god till the bitter end. Did you use it to defend Billy Clyde too ?