Not just the OLine. Yes they are getting pushed around and there are a few guys starting that would not start on a lot of D-1 lines around the country. But the OLine is not causing AMart to overthrow open receivers. Or under throw simple 10 yard screen passes. It doesn’t make sense. Something has changed with him from last season and I don’t know if it can be fixed. He is tentative and inaccurate a lot and I think it may be time to give Vedral a shot. GBR!
Everything keeps blaming the OLine but the problem is...
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You are correct. I agree. I'm just observing, like everyone else, that AM2 has regressed from last season. Not sure of the issue. I hope it's not between his ears. Maybe an unreported injury?
I am on record as one complaining about our O line. But in reality my biggest complaint is with the defense. Maybe I am just old fashioned but I believe to my core that the way to turn a program around is to make defense a priority. A good defense can keep you in any game. Any game. 2009 Nebraska is a classic example. And how did North Carolina almost upset Clemson? Defense. How has Iowa been so consistent despite their boring offense? Defense. How did Northwestern keep it close for three quarters against Wisky? Defense. How did Wisky blow that game open, just as they always do? Defense.
Conversely, since joining the B1G, in almost every big game, our defense has gotten boat raced and totally humiliated. And that puts the offense off of its game plan when you are behind by three touchdowns by the end of the first quarter. It explains why AMart was so off his game last night. He was in panic mode and felt like he had to make plays and was just too tight and nervous. He has been off a bit all year, but last night he was awful. And I think that is why.
I am not a coach and I trust Frost knows all this too. But for me, I would love to see more I formation plays, (power football as another weapon, not the sole weapon) and damn it, better defense.
I am ******* sick and tired of watching our defense, for years now, absolutely suck.
Conversely, since joining the B1G, in almost every big game, our defense has gotten boat raced and totally humiliated. And that puts the offense off of its game plan when you are behind by three touchdowns by the end of the first quarter. It explains why AMart was so off his game last night. He was in panic mode and felt like he had to make plays and was just too tight and nervous. He has been off a bit all year, but last night he was awful. And I think that is why.
I am not a coach and I trust Frost knows all this too. But for me, I would love to see more I formation plays, (power football as another weapon, not the sole weapon) and damn it, better defense.
I am ******* sick and tired of watching our defense, for years now, absolutely suck.
We've lost our top two safeties, a position we could not afford injuries at. Our LB are just bad. I thought the DL played reasonably well given the opponent, though C. Davis was getting absolutely whipped in the first half.
Was going with the 3-4 the right thing to do? I don’t know myself. I do know we left the 3-4 to 4-3 the we started kicking asp. Except for 1971 we never one anything with a 3-4 or basically a 5-2. So I was never a fan of the move
Pennsy, is it the case that we don’t have the talent running the 3-4 or is Chins to aggressive and gets burned way too often or is both a problem...
Chins looks out coached majority of the time..
Chins looks out coached majority of the time..
I wouldn’t compare the 5-2 defense in 71 with the style the 3-4 they use today..
Two totally different schemes and 48 years difference..
That would make me sad. Being mentally tough is a prerequisite for the position.
Trying to have the time to grab hikes flying around everywhere doesn't help AMart (or any other qb) much at all.
I’m pretty novice so besides read and react 52 defense explain the difference (no sarcasm)
5 DL
2 LB
4DBs
You need to have some studs to run this scheme. We’d have gaping holes and we can generate a pass rush anyway.
If there’s one thing I’m critical of more than any, it is our defense. I am also not a fan of the 3-4. But that’s what we have so we need to ride it out and support them. If we don’t make progress this year pressure will be on Frost to cut ties and bring in stud coordinators
Ok. I laughed. Every time Cameron snaps it high, I want AM2 to start rapping him on the back of the head with a rolled up newspaper. It gets old. I still say it's more than crappy Farinok and Jurgens and his stupid (and endless) high snaps.
I just remember in the day when it was 3rd and long all 5 on the line rushed the passer.. Now a days the DE is now a outside linebacker that has to defend more receivers in pass coverage..
I really have no idea Scarlet. I am not good with x’s and O’s Type stuff like Tuco. All I know is our defense has sucked for a long time and I hate it. I had a tiny, tiny glimmer of hope before the game last night because our defense has looked better this year. So that defensive meltdown was devastating to me. Can’t blame that on Boulder’s altitude or our up tempo offense. They got mauled from the get go
Maybe Jurgens needs to carry a football with him all week like mills did. Agree those high snaps are timing killers
In the base of a 5-2 it’s typically 3 DTs and two rush ends.
Sometimes you can substitute OLB as those rush ends but it’s a 5-2 because you only have 2 LBs in the form
3 offensive linemen shoved back into his face every snap
remind me- did AM not turn the ball over last year? was he flawlessly accurate?
I think people remember what they want to about him last year and it's very easy to compare what they think they saw a year ago to what they want to see this year
One doesn't have to be a genius to give our tackles some TE help on pass pro. Especially against the best DE in the country. Stoll or Allen won't see the ball anyway if the QB is getting sacked.
Adrian’s throws were WAY more accurate last year...even when he was under pressure.
His defense at UCF wasn't much different. They did create more turnovers there. But if it wasn't for the fact that UCF scored a lot almost at will at times, they would have never gone undefeated. Chin's defense was a a sieve there too.
Well then, it looks like we have another problem with defensive coordinators like we have in the past..
He was my biggest concern when SF was hired not to mention not a fan of the 3-4 if you don’t have the personal to run it..
whole season last year, first 4 this year.. same completion %
we see what we want and remember what we want. neither tend to tell the whole story.
I've never been a fan of the 3-4 period. As I understand it and I will try to keep this very simple and not too technical, you are giving up a d lineman (either a dt or a de) and replacing with an olb. The idea is more speed. The problem is if you don't have three studs, you basically gave up size with the olb replacement. I feel you tend to give up more of the 5 yards per carry on the run in the 3-4 where as the7-15 yard pass is more susceptible in the 4-3 behind the lbs. Opponent is making a living by running off tackle on us because we bring olb up to the line and is getting caved in bad or we stunt inside twist with the de and the lb doesn't fill. Usually resulting in a first down or TD.
So to your statement, no we don't have the personel to keep driving a round peg into a square hole.
One of two things will happen. We will either get the personel to make it work or Chin will be sent packing. I would prefer a rb have to make a decision on his side of the Los rather than making his first cut after gaining 5 yards and is now at full speed
To me, it's harder to stop the run without blitzing in the 3-4. If you're going to be good/great you have to stop the run. And you know the old saying, live by the blitz/die by the blitz