The problem is you repeat the same thing over and over again in every thread you add comments in. What purpose does it serve ? You have gone way beyond beating a dead horse.
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Actually they are; they just understand that’s it’s OKAY to be critical when it’s called for and, like it or not, it’s IS called for when it comes to Pikes closing on recruits and transfers a little too often.
The recruiting strategy for Pikiell is to bring in players that will help overcome the loss of scoring from departed players.The team had a difficult time scoring 65 points last season which means the skill set of players brought in is critically important just to maintain the status quo.
That doesn't factor in improvement of the current roster.
I do agree we need to bring in 2 impact players.
I hear what you're saying, but my point is the average poster calls out Pike for his failures and acknowledges Pike's accomplishments, and that's fair. These new posters all popped up around the same time with a similar agenda, which is to be critical at all times. That's just as bad as kissing Pike's *ss all the time.
Something tells me it's one or two posters creating multiple screen names to make it seem like Rutgers posters are turning on Pike because he can't land the players they want. Almost all of the critical new posters were registered on the site within months after Pike had been at Rutgers a few seasons. Someone should let them experience Rutgers basketball under Eddie Jordan or Fred Hill Jr.
What should he say that you think he’s not already saying to these recruits?
The guy strikes me as a tireless worker who is honest and direct. Plus now he has a record of bringing 2 teams to the big dance that hadn’t been there in ages. He’s a proven winner as a head coach.
Any player who’s paying attention can see that Pike gets his teams to perform at a high level, develops players, and competes well enough against Top 20 teams in the B1G to have finished 4th in the conference.
My personal opinion is that some guys (not all) who he doesn’t land are either afraid to commit to his demands for defensive intensity, or they want to be guaranteed playing time.
Fair enough! I do know kyk however, met him a few times, and I can tell you while he can be a little over-the-top at times he IS a very, very loyal fan.
I've seen this multiple screen name theory before. I really hope that's not true. Imagine the mindset of someone who does that? It would be so so pathetic
Pike isn't paying players
Pike isn't guaranteeing players playing time
Pike isn't guaranteeing shot attempts
Pike will make you play D or you won't play
Pike won't lie to recruits to get them to commit
These factors will have many players not want to commit. It is what it is, but I like his straight forward approach and landing guys that want to be a part of his program
I'm not calling out kyk. He's been a long-time poster who stands by what he believes. I may not always agree with his POV, but I have respect for him. His actions speak louder than words.
Some of the newer posters appeared from thin air with overbearing opinions and always want to argue with you if you disagree with them.
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haha the irony here of you claiming strawman is too good.
The paying players part has nothing to do with Pike. This comes from the top of the house at Rutgers. We are a big state school that depends on state funding and we can’t afford to have scandals that threaten that. We are not a small private commuter school like Seton Hall, where the only thing they are known for is the basketball team, or a crappy school like Iona, which can only attract any attention at all from the basketball program.
Some of the other points I am not sure I agree with or at least we don’t really know. If a player like DJ Wagner was willing to consider Rutgers, who knows what Pike would be willing to agree to. I can tell you any team would love to have a player with NBA ready skills and phenomenal athletic talent coming into their program, and I am sure Pike would love to coach someone like that, even if it is only for one year. But the reality is those types players are not going to consider Rutgers.
Are we afraid that the state will stop supporting us at a rate that’s bottom third of state support to flagship universities and drop us to bottom fourth?
They would fire Pike for cause on the spot if anyone close to the program was paying players under the table. The adminstration can not afford to have those kinds of problems and you are a fool if you think otherwise.
While I don't agree with NIL in its current beyond bastardized form, it is now legal for student athletes to participate in "paid partnerships". Rutgers should be taking full advantage of this platform. Aside - Brandin Knight just received a $200k pay raise. Would that money - if provided by an external source - been better used to secure tier I commitment(s)?
AYN, it took me years to realize some on this site are pretend Rutgers fans. I guess I am too trusting, it shouldn’t have taken that long. Some use Rutgers references in their names even. They are actually fans of other schools. Some come out of the gutter when something really bad happens, a crazy football loss, a supposed scandal that really isn’t, a kid who dors something stupid and gets kicked off the team. Others are on here every day. Not saying someone has to be positive 100 percent of the time, but some on this site are ALWAYS against Rutgers about anything—coaching, uniforms, food, campus, schedule, TV, crowds, players performance, parking, everything. There is no way anyone could be that anti-Rutgers unless they are either a fan of another school who gets some odd kick out of bashing Rutgers or they are miserable people 24/7 in their real life.
There were players on last seasons team that weren't good defensive players and they got playing time .Not paying players is just a excuse used for not getting recruits.If it was so pervasive why is Rutgers playing in the Big Ten instead of a lower level conference?Playing time is a legitimate question to ask especially if the transfer portal recruit has only one year remaining.As to shot attempts I don't know how that can be even mentioned by Pikiell or a recruit because nobody knows how defenses will guard players during games.There were games where Baker and Harper hardly took any shots during long parts of games.I agree Pikiell won't lie to recruits to get them to commit.Recruiting is difficult for the best of teams because of competition for players.The team won/loss record should be a good indicator of recruiting success short term and long term.
Sorry almost spit out my coffee while reading this naivety riddle response.
If we’re not counting big recruits he landed that were less productive m, then we also have to count lesser recruits who were more productive but that isn’t a game pike haters want to play
I've been a board member for 20+ years and recruiting is Pike's weakest coaching attribute.
Chill, and it wasn't directed at you.
There are people who suddenly because members over the last few years, and all they do is post negative things. When one has something negative to say, the other co-signs the post. It makes it seem like plenty of posters are turning on the Pike and the program. No one is saying Pike is perfect and rightful so he deserves criticism at times. Still, he's much better than Fred Hill Jr. or Eddie Jordan. None of us want to experience the dark days of Rutgers basketball. I'm saying be careful about what you wish for.
Until Caleb says otherwise - there’s no reason not to assume he’s coming back. Why wouldn’t he hire at least an NCAA approved agent if going pro was seriously in consideration? Seems like he’s looking for feedback going through the process. If transferring was a possibility - he’d be in the portal already - no?
So at the moment - the most likely outcome is the return of 3 of 5 starters plus a fully stocked bench of experienced returning utility players. That’s a decent nucleus to work with. Yes - we need to replace scoring fire power and going to add at least 2 players. Maybe (probably) 3. There are so many scorers in the portal right now. Can’t we wait and see who we end up adding before sounding the panic alarms? Not getting Wright doesn’t mean we won’t get anyone with proven D1 shooting ability. If we add 2 JUCOs and another Agee type - by all means then voice the concerns.
We also don’t know that none of Mag, Hyatt or Dean will take their game to the next level next season. We don’t know that Simpson can’t come in and provide what Geo provided for us as a frosh.
The only thing we DO know is that Pike will add a minimum of 2 more players to the roster.
So at the moment - the most likely outcome is the return of 3 of 5 starters plus a fully stocked bench of experienced returning utility players. That’s a decent nucleus to work with. Yes - we need to replace scoring fire power and going to add at least 2 players. Maybe (probably) 3. There are so many scorers in the portal right now. Can’t we wait and see who we end up adding before sounding the panic alarms? Not getting Wright doesn’t mean we won’t get anyone with proven D1 shooting ability. If we add 2 JUCOs and another Agee type - by all means then voice the concerns.
We also don’t know that none of Mag, Hyatt or Dean will take their game to the next level next season. We don’t know that Simpson can’t come in and provide what Geo provided for us as a frosh.
The only thing we DO know is that Pike will add a minimum of 2 more players to the roster.