Emoni Bates in jail

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Blueisbest

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Hey, you never know when you're going to need a gun or two on the mean streets of Ypsilanti, Michigan.
 

Son_Of_Saul

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UPDATE: After being cut by Eastern Michigan for being jailed on criminal charges, Emoni Bates has announced he will be transferring to Kansas University.

"It was inevitable. This is where I was meant to be all along," Bates said.

KU coach Bill Self said, "He'll fit right in. I only wish he had been here sooner to be mentored by LaGerald Vick, Josh Jackson, Carlton Bragg, Silvio DeSousa and our many other players with the kind of experience he can learn from."

Kansas is currently under five of the NCAA's most severe charges of cheating, including loss of institutional control and a direct charge that Self cheated, but the NCAA has signaled it is too weak, corrupt and indifferent to hold the program accountable.
Your greatest post ever, man.

Well played.
 

Cat Ballou

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I can’t get excited about this. He’s a young kid with money, so I can understand his feeling like he needed a gun for protection, and all of us that beleive in gun rights should agree.

Did he do something really dumb and buy an illegal gun? Sounds like it, but should be minor charges. Kid is not a criminal.
 

SemperFiCat

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The guns are likely stolen and the SN being scratched off is a problem.
This is the real problem. IF they tie that gun to him, (personally, with evidence), his age, ball player status, and no priors won't do much to save him. You can't play arounf with that kinda thing. Smart people with those only take those out of their private hiding spots only once, and they are never seen again. That's a burner, folks. ...unless you're young and dumb and think it's cool.
 

BigKari

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Pretty good chance. But if you wanna 'bank' on stuff, mark me down for banking that he spends more time homeless or in prison than getting paid to play ball. You don't just get unlucky and find yourself in a vehicle with an illegal firearm. Those are your peeps. That's how you roll. That's a game you'll ultimately lose 100% of the time.
I’ll take you up on that bet.
 

bbnkat02

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Hate when people leave their guns in my car. It’s either that or chewing gum wrappers.
Same goes for pants. Ever put a pair of pants on and magically a gun appears in them? Really hate when that happens.
 
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bbnkat02

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That’s a federal offense at that point isn’t it?
Not to answer my own question but yes. Yes it is.

Removed or Tampered Serial Numbers
Under federal law, 18 U.S.C. § 922(k), any individual who knowingly possesses, transports, or delivers a weapon with an altered or removed serial number can face up to a five-year sentence.

IF he’s guilty, he just potentially ruined his whole career.
 

bbnkat02

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Depends on the law, if the gun was under his seat let’s say, the law could be written that if nobody else took ownership of it that it’s his, or everybody in the car is responsible. I don’t know Michigan law.
Michigan law says you can have a gun I. Your vehicle IF it’s in a case, unloaded, and locked. Or in the trunk. UNLESS you have a valid CCP/CPL. Then you can have it loaded and on you.

Considering the numbers are filed off and I highly highly doubt he has a concealed license? He done.
 
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I'm a little confused how we got from failing to stop at an intersection to finding a gun in the car. I wouldn't think running a stop sign would be enough for a search of the vehicle. Makes it more likely that he either had it on his person or it was in plain sight I would think
 
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*Fox2Monk*

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I'm a little confused how we got from failing to stop at an intersection to finding a gun in the car. I wouldn't think running a stop sign would be enough for a search of the vehicle. Makes it more likely that he either had it on his person or it was in plain sight I would think
If I had to guess it was probably stuck in the side of a seat or something dumb.
 

Gromcat_rivals

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I’ll take you up on that bet.

Two points.

I wouldn’t bet since obviously I don’t have the information but since those guns have a high probability of being stolen or used in a crime, I’d imagine they’re going to take fingerprints. If his fingerprints are there?

I read about a case recently of a guy and his girlfriend trafficking a kilo of coke from Chicago to their state some 6 hours away. They were pulled over in a rental car that had a bullet hole in the driver door. since no record was filed about the bullet hole in the door, they used that in court to an acquittal. Kilo in the trunk, bullet hole in the door, they didn’t know anything and they’re not guilty.

There are many ways around this kind of thing especially since it’s not his car, but even then, he was driving and the guns are there. Many times that is enough. Ignorance doesn’t always work unless you’ve got something substantial like the case above.
 

revcort

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So, he was driving a borrowed car and can claim the gun is not his and he had nothing to do with removing the serial number from it. That might work for him. He's suspended from the team until this matter is resolved, which will likely not happen until after the season starts. He may have dodged a bullet. If his prints are on the weapon, he's right back where he was, though.

IF he manages to come out of this without a conviction, the other issue that needs to be addressed is the crowd he is surrounding himself with. This could be a huge learning experience for him if he will take it as that. Assuming the gun truly isn't his, he borrowed this car from someone who is a shady character and he needs to get away from such people. If he manages to get out of this without any long term consequences, this should be a wake-up call.

This is one of the dangers for guys like this returning to their hometown area for college. All the people who knew him growing up are right there and the hangers-on are numerous. Any mistakes from your past tend to crop up and any shady characters you knew will surely find you. He may need to transfer again just to get away from this.
 

SemperFiCat

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So, he was driving a borrowed car and can claim the gun is not his and he had nothing to do with removing the serial number from it. That might work for him. He's suspended from the team until this matter is resolved, which will likely not happen until after the season starts. He may have dodged a bullet. If his prints are on the weapon, he's right back where he was, though.

IF he manages to come out of this without a conviction, the other issue that needs to be addressed is the crowd he is surrounding himself with. This could be a huge learning experience for him if he will take it as that. Assuming the gun truly isn't his, he borrowed this car from someone who is a shady character and he needs to get away from such people. If he manages to get out of this without any long term consequences, this should be a wake-up call.

This is one of the dangers for guys like this returning to their hometown area for college. All the people who knew him growing up are right there and the hangers-on are numerous. Any mistakes from your past tend to crop up and any shady characters you knew will surely find you. He may need to transfer again just to get away from this.
Yep. The company you keep. And as I said before, if it isn't his, they're gonna want to find out who's it is. Could put Bates in a real pickle. ...in a pickle with probably not the best folks you want to be in a pickle with.
 

LineSkiCat14

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I'm a little confused how we got from failing to stop at an intersection to finding a gun in the car. I wouldn't think running a stop sign would be enough for a search of the vehicle. Makes it more likely that he either had it on his person or it was in plain sight I would think

I can't help but find it extremely fitting that if he (or the driver) just followed the damn road signs, they would have never found the gun. That's what's hysterical here.. hubris got them in trouble.
 

bbnkat02

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Yep. The company you keep. And as I said before, if it isn't his, they're gonna want to find out who's it is. Could put Bates in a real pickle. ...in a pickle with probably not the best folks you want to be in a pickle with.
Yeah. Filed off serial numbers means FBI and ATF involvement. They’re going to want to know where those guns came from. If car isn’t his, owner will be questioned. If owner doesn’t own the guns it comes back on Bates.

He’s in major hot water.
 

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Hey, you never know when you're going to need a gun or two on the mean streets of Ypsilanti, Michigan.

Ypsi has a significant gang presence. Bates could be a potential target simply because of who he is.





 

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I'm a little confused how we got from failing to stop at an intersection to finding a gun in the car. I wouldn't think running a stop sign would be enough for a search of the vehicle. Makes it more likely that he either had it on his person or it was in plain sight I would think
10 to 1 the cop smelled weed, giving him probable cause to search the car. Found the gun. That's a common occurrence on On Patrol Live. (Formerly LivePD)
 
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He has the means to hire a great lawyer to get him a favorable deal. Add to it that he’s only 18 with no priors, he’s enrolled in school and earns income. He will accept a plea deal that gets him probation and community service. You can bank on that.
Society loves the Bates of the world. He’s a 18 year old criminal. Now does he get a second chance? Sure, and a third and a forth.

what gets me is some will say can he turn his life around, can he fulfill his potential. He doing just that. Before he was just a criminal, now he’s a criminal with a gun, next stop he uses his gun and kills someone.
 

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10 to 1 the cop smelled weed, giving him probable cause to search the car. Found the gun. That's a common occurrence on On Patrol Live. (Formerly LivePD)
Number one cause, is that weed in the car sir?
 

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This is the real problem. IF they tie that gun to him, (personally, with evidence), his age, ball player status, and no priors won't do much to save him. You can't play arounf with that kinda thing. Smart people with those only take those out of their private hiding spots only once, and they are never seen again. That's a burner, folks. ...unless you're young and dumb and think it's cool.
Young, thinks he's a badass hood thug, cool and oppressed.
 

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Young, thinks he's a badass hood thug, cool and oppressed.
As soon as I saw this thread I knew there was a 100% chance it would turn racist. This probably wasn’t even the worst comment. And before you try to defend yourself and do the “you’re the real racist for being divisive” routine, everyone knows what “thug” is a euphemism for. And the sarcastic “cool and oppressed” really shows your disdain. You’ll try to play mental gymnastics explaining your thinly veiled, dog whistle rhetoric, but you ain’t fooling me.
 

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As soon as I saw this thread I knew there was a 100% chance it would turn racist. This probably wasn’t even the worst comment. And before you try to defend yourself and do the “you’re the real racist for being divisive” routine, everyone knows what “thug” is a euphemism for. And the sarcastic “cool and oppressed” really shows your disdain. You’ll try to play mental gymnastics explaining your thinly veiled, dog whistle rhetoric, but you ain’t fooling me.
Plenty of white thugs running around out there. They are called BLM and Antifa. Yes sir I'm such a racist that I taught my children so badly that two of them are in mixed marriages and have given me 4 beautiful grandchildren.
 
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BigKari

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Plenty of white thugs running around out there. They are called BLM and Antifa.
Lol they came to your suburban neighborhood, destroyed property and demanded to live in your home right? Turn off Newsmax for 10 minutes and touch grass goofball.
 

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Lol they came to your suburban neighborhood, destroyed property and demanded to live in your home right? Turn off Newsmax for 10 minutes and touch grass goofball.
Have black and Mexican neighbors, and yes blm and antifa destroyed plenty in the malls and shopping areas around our area hence they are all thugs to me no matter what color. Sure you approve highly of these groups...you are dismissed again.
 
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As soon as I saw this thread I knew there was a 100% chance it would turn racist. This probably wasn’t even the worst comment. And before you try to defend yourself and do the “you’re the real racist for being divisive” routine, everyone knows what “thug” is a euphemism for. And the sarcastic “cool and oppressed” really shows your disdain. You’ll try to play mental gymnastics explaining your thinly veiled, dog whistle rhetoric, but you ain’t fooling me.
You do realize where that word ACTUALLY came from and why it’s used to refer to criminals yes?
 
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It all hinges on ownership of the gun. They will start squeezing until they can put ownership on someone. If it really isn't his, someone will have to claim it or snitch.
Yes, this. However, I doubt anyone else is going to volunteer ownership of the altered gun.
 
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