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bluinbville

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Both Trevon Duval and Billy Preston attended a school for a year that was not certified, a problem that dogged Mudiay. It will be interesting to see if either one has any difficulty making it through the clearing house, especially Duval at Duke. My cynical side screams that it will be swept under the rug unless the recruit in question signed with UK.
 

RC_Texas

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Billy Preston spent his Senior year at Oak Hill. He won't have issues with the NCAA.
 

spotter34

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Duval may be rated the #1 PG in the 2017 class but he is not a typical dUKe recruit under coach K. He wasn't recruited heavily by a few of the elite schools and it is a rare desperate move by coach K. They didn't recruit him heavily until after other options had moved on. I think the team chemistry is going to be an issue with them all season.
 
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Duval may be rated the #1 PG in the 2017 class but he is not a typical dUKe recruit under coach K. He wasn't recruited heavily by a few of the elite schools and it is a rare desperate move by coach K. They didn't recruit him heavily until after other options had moved on. I think the team chemistry is going to be an issue with them all season.

Duke started recruiting Duval when he announced he was transferring to IMG.
 

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https://basketballrecruiting.rivals...eman-bring-to-texas-and-where-does-duke-turn-

Here's a link from mid-January, 2017 that says dUKe should go all in for Duval after they missed on Coleman. So yeah, they may have recruited him but he was not their top choice. And like I said, he's not typically someone you see coach K go after.

They were recruiting Duval way before that and regardless of whether they landed Coleman or not. If Coleman had committed to Duke they would have still gone after Duval 100%.
 
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spotter34

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They were recruiting Duval way before that and regardless of whether they landed Coleman or not. If Coleman had committed to Duke they would have still gone after Duval 100%.

I'm not really disagreeing with you. Yes dUKe did recruit Duval but he appeared to always be a 2nd option to other players. If they had gotten Coleman and Jackson returned to dUKe, they wouldn't have been desperate to get Duval and I doubt Duval would have picked them. When Coleman picked Texas and Jackson hired an agent and thus gave up all his remaining eligibility, Duval was the most logical candidate to help fill the hole in the backcourt, even though he comes with some baggage. Coach K isn't normally in a position where he has to take a "risk" in recruiting. Duval is extremely talented but he is somewhat of a risk whether dUKe recruited him for 2 years.

Saying that, if Cal had not gotten Green and then missed on Young, he probably would have done the same thing coach K did and go all in on Duval, but Cal got his first option. I know some will say he offered Young first which is true, but when it became obvious that Young was going to drag his recruitment out Cal went after Green and more or less said whoever commits first will be my PG. Green committed and Young quit hearing from UK. We moved on. You don't move on from a top option unless they go somewhere else, like Coleman going to Texas.
 

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I'm not really disagreeing with you. Yes dUKe did recruit Duval but he appeared to always be a 2nd option to other players. If they had gotten Coleman and Jackson returned to dUKe, they wouldn't have been desperate to get Duval and I doubt Duval would have picked them. When Coleman picked Texas and Jackson hired an agent and thus gave up all his remaining eligibility, Duval was the most logical candidate to help fill the hole in the backcourt, even though he comes with some baggage. Coach K isn't normally in a position where he has to take a "risk" in recruiting. Duval is extremely talented but he is somewhat of a risk whether dUKe recruited him for 2 years.

Saying that, if Cal had not gotten Green and then missed on Young, he probably would have done the same thing coach K did and go all in on Duval, but Cal got his first option. I know some will say he offered Young first which is true, but when it became obvious that Young was going to drag his recruitment out Cal went after Green and more or less said whoever commits first will be my PG. Green committed and Young quit hearing from UK. We moved on. You don't move on from a top option unless they go somewhere else, like Coleman going to Texas.

I agree with most of this except I would point out Duval was pretty well known to be heading to Duke before Jackson decided to stay in the draft. People close to the program said he committed to Duke in April when visiting. Duval would be the starting PG whether or not Jackson came back. Yes Duval was essentially Dukes last hope when it came down to it but the staff was very confident in the situation for a long time.

I do agree from the outside it seemed to be a bad situation for Duke but I also have no idea what is known between the staff and recruits during these processes.
 
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spotter34

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I agree with most of this except I would point out Duval was pretty well known to be heading to Duke before Jackson decided to stay in the draft. People close to the program said he committed to Duke in April when visiting. Duval would be the starting PG whether or not Jackson came back. Yes Duval was essentially Dukes last hope when it came down to it but the staff was very confident in the situation for a long time.

I do agree from the outside it seemed to be a bad situation for Duke but I also have no idea what is known between the staff and recruits during these processes.

Good post, but again that was after Coleman went to Texas. If dUKe had Coleman and Jackson they would not have Duval. But if's and but's can go on forever, Duval is at dUKe and now we'll see how he and coach K and Allen can get along.
 

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Good post, but again that was after Coleman went to Texas. If dUKe had Coleman and Jackson they would not have Duval. But if's and but's can go on forever, Duval is at dUKe and now we'll see how he and coach K and Allen can get along.

It is true we will never know but imo Coleman had no play in Duvals decision at all. But I don't know that for a fact. As for now i really like Dukes starting lineup next year. After that though... we will see.
 
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Both Trevon Duval and Billy Preston attended a school for a year that was not certified, a problem that dogged Mudiay. It will be interesting to see if either one has any difficulty making it through the clearing house, especially Duval at Duke. My cynical side screams that it will be swept under the rug unless the recruit in question signed with UK.


Hell, the NCAA has investigated a UK recruits (Bledsoe) grades after he left UK.
 
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Billy Preston spent his Senior year at Oak Hill. He won't have issues with the NCAA.
Brandon Jennings did the same thing and couldn't get eligible for Arizona.

I think I remember hearing that both Preston and Duval were taking their coursework through a University of Nebraska program that the NCAA has used before. I don't know if that will affect things since they were still doing the work at Prime/Advanced Prep where the administrators were pretty sketchy to begin with.
 

caneintally

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Both Preston and Duval might have issues playing next season. Where there is smoke there usually is fire. Isn't Ayton in the same boat ?
 

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I'm not really disagreeing with you. Yes dUKe did recruit Duval but he appeared to always be a 2nd option to other players. If they had gotten Coleman and Jackson returned to dUKe, they wouldn't have been desperate to get Duval and I doubt Duval would have picked them. When Coleman picked Texas and Jackson hired an agent and thus gave up all his remaining eligibility, Duval was the most logical candidate to help fill the hole in the backcourt, even though he comes with some baggage. Coach K isn't normally in a position where he has to take a "risk" in recruiting. Duval is extremely talented but he is somewhat of a risk whether dUKe recruited him for 2 years.

Saying that, if Cal had not gotten Green and then missed on Young, he probably would have done the same thing coach K did and go all in on Duval, but Cal got his first option. I know some will say he offered Young first which is true, but when it became obvious that Young was going to drag his recruitment out Cal went after Green and more or less said whoever commits first will be my PG. Green committed and Young quit hearing from UK. We moved on. You don't move on from a top option unless they go somewhere else, like Coleman going to Texas.
Duke only recruited Coleman with the hopes it would give them an advantage with Bamba. K seems to mimic Cal's strategies more than one would think. The last couple of classes Cal has spearheaded the entire class based on a PG other top players want to play with. It makes their job easier and gives them a chance at a more complete class. Not every recruiting class lends itself with this opportunity but Fox and Green certainly fit the criteria. There may be other PG's ranked as high but some guys demonstrate qualities other top players have an affinity towards.
 
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So I will be invited by to you to stay?
You better watch the hair piece. He's getting desperate on the recruiting trail, and signing a bunch of frindge criminals and students. If you dont keep him in check he'll ruin your image. Kansas is steadily turning into thug U. Everyday it's questionable guys and criminal acts. Drip drip drip.
 

docholiday51

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You better watch the hair piece. He's getting desperate on the recruiting trail, and signing a bunch of frindge criminals and students. If you dont keep him in check he'll ruin your image. Kansas is steadily turning into thug U. Everyday it's questionable guys and criminal acts. Drip drip drip.
All he needs is a couple of hookers and they go from Jayhawks to Cardinals in 15 seconds or so.