Nice, yet small start. Will be met with lawsuits I’m sure.
Eligibility executive order
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Nice, yet small start. Will be met with lawsuits I’m sure.
Fantastic... something or somebody needs to have some common sense and stop this madness. D1 College athletes are treated better than 99% of the world without making a lifetimes worth of money for 99% of the world in 1 year.
Will head straight to the courts and probably tossed.
of course, sanity seems to lose in courts in this bizarro world
A salary cap and required transparency seems more important imo and would have a higher likelihood of surviving legal challenges. That said, at least something is being tried.
Everyone does realize this means exactly nothing, correct? It's guidance issued to whatever shred of the department of education exists. Impacts to schools/players are precisely zero and the first time the dept of education tries something it will go straight to court and be tossed.
Conference commissioners applauded it yesterday. It’s a start. Kind of lays foundation for what they want with the Score Act. But before it was announced President even said he expects lot of stuff to go to court with legal challenges will continue. Everyone involved knows a lot more needs to be done. Unfortunately commissioners happy about it are many of the ones who are responsible for letting things get where they are now.
If the NCAA creates the rule and takes a scholarship away and makes you forfeit your games and all schools abide by the rule, then how can a student athlete sue a school to force them to sign him?
Never heard of an NFL or MLB player suing because of a league salary cap and making a team pay him what he wants.
But that's not what this is. Executive orders aren't even rules.
NFL and MLB have a collective bargaining agreement.
College doesn't and would be difficult to get since each conference is its own league.
But that's what rule the NCAA can create. The EO is the idea behind it. If all the schools follow it what's a player going to do if all the schools honor it? Sue a school to take and pay him?
Every player in this position is going to miss a year while it goes to court.
Trump's rule is a recommendation. This is what could be done to the school....
includes a provision to review federal government grants and contracts for schools and potentially cut funding if they fail to comply with NCAA rules,
Is a player worth the above to the school to break?
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Or it could provide guidelines for congress to pass a bill to give the NCAA protection to set guidelines that make college sports fair and equitable for the money sports and olympic sports.
Hypothetically yes it could provide a rough idea of a plan of a rule of a law. But it currently is bluster for the sake of making a headline. Effectively nothing.
(Sidenote: I do agree that something needs to be done but on the list of things a president should be focusing on, this is a footnote)
Wow, what a concept! Congress passes a bill to address a problem...
So your solution is keep doing nothing. Thanks Margaret.
This executive order is doing nothing just with a shiny announcement. But no I don't think the solution is to do nothing, I'm also in no position to do anything so you're welcome Peggy?
It got you crying about it. Don't think that was the goal, but good enough for me so far.
K cool.It got you crying about it. Don't think that was the goal, but good enough for me so far.
I knew it was all about who signed it in your mind. I'll bet it wasn't signed by an autopen.
This really does go over your head that the penalty is on the school.
Take Iowa as an example. Besides the player sitting out waiting on a court decision the government will stop federal funding to the school.
Iowa had a federal grant for $363M in 23 and record $683M in 24. They will stop the funding if they chose to add the player breaking the NCAAs new rule(s).
Go ahead and fight this in court but send everyone home who was working on the research project until it's settled. Is Joe Dunksalot really worth a billion dollars to the UofI?
They are neither students nor employees. They are contractors. Free agents.
Oh yeah, I love Washington DC getting involved in athletics! Something something, small government, right?
What new ncaa transfer rules? There aren't any. So no it's not going over my head.
Edit: sorry there is one but it's about signing players before they've officially entered the portal which I assumed was never allowed but must not have specifically been listed.
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Oh no, maybe some of those in academia would have to go out and find a real job. It might go over your head that these players are getting paid from profit sharing revenue dollars and private donars.
Problem is it has gotten to this point because of the ncaa, conferences, etc screwing things up past few decades with inaction. By not doing anything where after these court cases now we do need govt. action unfortunately to fix the many problems. It’s about the only way we can clear these issues up where we don’t have court cases after court case and dealing with messes like bama bball G league player fiasco.
I really at this point see no other way to clear up the nil, portal, transfer, paying players issues minus govt action at this point. I’m all ears if there are better and more reasonable solutions out there.
I never said that. Simply that this is guidance (at best) for rules that don't exist yet. Political affiliation, of which I have none, has nothing to do with this.
Will have to rule on the legality of the EO? It is clearly illegal. I doubt it receives a Supreme Court review.
Sure. Have salary cap for what the schools can pay. Then the car dealer comes over the top with more money.
you lose in court trying to stop the car dealer.
nobody cares if the geek writes a phone app that makes money and they transfer schools but god forbid somebody screw up my TV watching, then we need a law to stop it.
I can't recall who's said it but I like the idea of having players sign a multi-year deals and if they want to enter the portal before that deal ends, the school they go to has to pay a buyout to the school loosing the player.
Also, there has to be transparency. Deals have to be public.
Also, there has to be transparency. Deals have to be public.
What new rule? JFC you didn't read a fooking thing. Lol . Continue on, I can't argue with stupid.
Is the geek getting 400k from the school to underwrite his private venture?
Do u of Iowa research assistants get a piece of ultimate revenues from new patented medications they have helped develop?
If a football player from Iowa put on a semi- pro uni like CR lions, would his services be worth a fraction of what they get at Iowa?
Fans pay the bills. Fans support their school.
The uniform bring value to the players.
If the geek's ap brings value to the consumer they will support it, no matter what school the geek studied at..
JFC over your head too. It's not about getting paid, it's about only being allowed to transfer ONCE IN COLLEGE and what will happen to the school if they allow enrollment to a student athlete a 2nd time.
Did they rule on Trump's EO that allowed the military service men and women who were discharged because they didn't get their covid shot.
That took 3 years for them to get reinstated and receive their back pay. Who's waiting around for that to play basketball or football.
I'm willing to admit I'm wrong if you show me the new rule. I haven't seen one other than the ghost transfer rule and haven't found anything searching online. This EO isn't a rule and the NCAA hasn't approved anything that I'm aware of.