Why do you care so much that others are “miserable?” Other than insecurity, I don’t understand getting worked up at other posters’ cynicism.
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I’ve said it before, but I think he rubbed some powerful people the wrong way when he spurned the Cavs in 2014.
And yes, I think he thought he had built his brand up enough to pull off whatever he wanted to. He miscalculated. No pun intended.
The Tubby stuff...that’s a whole other website worth of discussion. So many people hated the Tubby years, but he had us at the top of the country 5-6 years into his tenure. He did it the way a lot of people want Cal to do it now...a few decent players who stick around, role players who never leave.
Am I saying that’s good or bad? I’m saying some people will never be happy no matter what.
I understand people longing for a return to the glory days. It isn’t coming. Maybe the end of OAD will stabilize it a bit. But maybe not. The money is filthy and everybody wants their piece as fast as they can get it.
You think Joe B. would retire in his 50s today to go work in a bank? He would still be coaching if this wave had hit earlier. Look at K and Jimmy B. and the rest of them refusing to lay down. I’m expecting them to dig John Wooden up and roll him out to midcourt any day now.
I agree with this. I would extend it however, and add that evaluation of all players is the only way to find the best that he can.
Throwing darts at the top 25 is not going everything you can to bring in the best recruits, for example.
I think this is spot on.
I also think there may be an unexpected positive result IF the roster can be stabilized. Cal seems to be trying to adjust his recruiting. Having guys like IQ and Hagans return is significant. Hope EJ returns.
I’m not in the “cal can do no wrong crowd,” but until i see another coach who is doing things at a higher level than him, then i think i’m pretty satisfied with his job performance.
So basically you'd rather have higher highs and lower lows.
I get that but I don't know if that's really a good way of having success. I mean yeah sure if the titles came you'd take it I guess, but if you don't have a good team every year, I question whether those three titles actually come.
I am very happy with Cal. Tubby had 1 title in ten years but that title was his first year with Pitino's players. Not much after that. Then Billy G was a total disaster.
It’s a good way to look at it.
Right now Nova is the model. Flame outs in the tourney, but closing the deal when they get there.
No, just saying if you go with greater highs and lower lows than Nova is the model. Even their lows they make the tournament and are a top 20-25 team. It’s the alternative to UK in how to build a roster.
I realized that after I typed it lol.
Tho I wonder........I mean Uconn has two titles as well..........that would be the definition of high highs and low lows..........is that something we'd really want tho?
I get your point though. I don’t know what the right approach is anymore.
I've always thought there was no correct approach.
I don't think there's a specific blueprint for this.
I guess to me the biggest thing is before the tournament u can usually pick eight teams that have a shot at winning. You want to be one of those eight teams as many years as you possibly can. Cause there's a ton of luck in a one and done tournament.
In 2017 we could look at the result at say meh elite 8. But we lost to the eventual champion. We were one possession away from knocking them off.
2019.........OT. But lost to team that almost didn't even make it out of the first round. What if they lost that game......we face UNC prob? Who knows......maybe we win that game.
There's two things u need to win titles.........first u have to have the talented obviously and that accounts for the big part of it but somewhere along the way u have to be lucky as well..........we just weren't in 17 and 19.
18 we just wasn't good enough but I think everyone knew that.
Nova in Connecticut I've had good runs in the past two decades at various times. There's no tangible proof that their model will hold up over time and they will continue to win titles. Kentucky won four titles in 11 Seasons as well in the past but we have slowed down a lot in the last 60 years
This season shows it's all about luck. I don't think anyone really thinks Virginia was the best team. Virginia avoided playing one of the other top 8 teams in the country. The best team they beat was Texas Tech. Think about that for a second. At least the 1998 Kentucky had to beat an incredible Duke team
Tubby had the misfortune of entering the scene with expectations well above his ability. Even in 2001, the game had moved past high school coaches and parents. The fan base had just experienced Pitino’s era, and Tubby came in with those players and won another. By 2000 we were used to more success than we’ve had since, and that’s not a bar for a coach that refuses to work with people outside of his circle and anyone other than a players mother. Tubby had the chance to work the system like all greats do and he simply couldn’t do it. I don’t think the fans were unreasonable. Tubby’s brand simply fell flat.
That part of your statement reads closely to something Vitale would say circa 2008.
And really, I don’t think Joe B is an obsessed crazed power trippin lunatic who’s p****** himself and r******** over people while releasing a statement that he’s not going anywhere!! I think the way Joe is has proven he’d retire and be with him family when the time was right.
John Wooden is a shape shifter or lizard of some kind. He’s been in Durham for a long time.
listen genius, the number i chose out of thin air was basically saying why aren't we seeing and hearing about like what you said, a hundred or "hundreds". are you this serious when you sleep? wow. take a break man.
Lucky for Cal freak of nature Anthony Davis came along once in his 10 years. Supported by the best 2 returning sophomores he's ever had at one time while at UK, Jones and Lamb. Oh yeah, a Kentucky kid that a drunk recruited for him. All sorts of off-normal things fell into place that year.
Yeah because Calipari hasn't come close to winning a national title any other year. Just an idiotic post
Cal has had the right combination, I think, in several of the years. Not as many lately but even in 2017 he had the combo of stud frosh and skilled returnees. You can argue that team needed the returnees to be just a bit better. But 2010, 2011, 2012, 2015, and 2017 had the right formula.
Tubby's major issue was that he needed to recruit at a Michigan State level, and he couldn't even do that 50-60% of the time.
His recruiting classes varied from about 30% very good to 30% decent to about 40% sub-par.
It was that last 40% that did him in.
Yea, but he’s finished in the top spot in nearly every measurable statistical category except titles, and only two guys have done better there, and that’s Coach K and Wright. Wright doesn’t really matter, his career to that point wasn’t near Calipari. It won’t be from here.
I agree 2012 a lot went right, but it also did for Villanova and just about everyone else who’s a champion. We just don’t scrutinize those details like we do UK.
What makes that different in regards to Cal is the lockout. There’s actually something to point to that’s out of the players control whereas a guy like Wright and his reasons would be traditional happenings. Players returning, a transfer, something that lies within more understandable and traditional boundaries. It might even diminish that accomplishment except for the fact that, a title is a title is a title. In the end it just is what it is.
Another FF and Tubby is probably viewed a bit differently. I thought the Rondo,Crawford, Bradley, Morris class would get him over the hump.
Almost did in 2005, but as we're seeing lately, "almost" getting to the Final Four doesn't really evoke much of a morale boost on the fan base.
We were only s basket away from another ff as one guy likes to say yet tubby was tarred and feathered