EJ entering draft!
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When KyFaninNC and I both agree with you maybe it is time for you to worry just a little
More than likely this is Cal giving Hurt an extra thought. I’m mainly discussing the philosophy behind my opinion.
I’m super excited because I stopped caring about Final Fours and Championships. I just care about NBA Draft picks and other guys just hanging out for a little bit here and then bouncing. That way I can trash talk other programs that we beat them in NBA players.
It’s about the players and them getting some cash on their way before they bounce around the G-League and 10-day NBA contracts. It’s selfish of you all to care about Kentucky success instead of these guys you got to see for six months before they joined the Idaho River Rats.
It’s about the players and them getting some cash on their way before they bounce around the G-League and 10-day NBA contracts. It’s selfish of you all to care about Kentucky success instead of these guys you got to see for six months before they joined the Idaho River Rats.
When KyFaninNC and I both agree with you maybe it is time for you to worry just a little
I’m slower than the average smart dude. When you’re agreeing with me, just remember that.
Like I posted the other day, I’ve been watching Kentucky basketball for 38 years.
We’ve made it to the Elite Eight exactly half of those years. 19.
We’ve gone 9-10 in those 19 games.
So this was a normal year to me. Pretty good. Kind of disappointing at the end.
Because you feel differently doesn’t make it so. Only means your expectations are out of whack with the realities of UK basketball.
Vanderbilt and Diallo, two of the worst to play here and the epitome of a mentality you do not want for your program.
Don't let Doc fool you, he is smarter than the average cat.
If he’s just going for evaluation. That’s perfectly fine.
If he’s going thinking he’s even remotely ready? It’ll be a dumb decision; and we will be seeing him in some Eastern Block of Europe.
Just come back for one more year EJ. You would blossom MORE than PJ did.
If he’s going thinking he’s even remotely ready? It’ll be a dumb decision; and we will be seeing him in some Eastern Block of Europe.
Just come back for one more year EJ. You would blossom MORE than PJ did.
But Cal is a different animal. He set a high bar. Tubs couldn’t handle the pressure here and half of his seasons resulted in an elite 8.
Personally I think he failed to realize that he couldn’t compete with Nike and corrupt college practices while playing clean. He probably felt like he had done enough to sit back and they’d just come to him after hearing his pitch about Wall, AD, and Cuz. It just didn’t happen and he adjusted too late.
Cal loves being the gateway to the NBA. If he doesn’t win another, I’ll always think it was because he was content with the connections he made and wasn’t the same competitor.
Aike did you grow up in Lexington? UK basketball is what makes that city go. It’s the life blood. To see it reduced to what it’s become is sad. I grew up in the 80s. We weren’t winning titles. It didn’t matter bc our players were part of the community. They stick around and we got to know them. Now token fringe players are there one year and gone. Some that stick around leave to go no where like wenyen. Its whatever at this point and that’s sad bc even when we were on probation and going through hell fans still cared. I think the time of fans caring is soon to be up.
He may not, but if he doesn't, it is not going to be because he was a first round pick. With all the good players in this draft, he probably won't get picked in the 2nd round. The smartest thing for him to do is work on his body and his game, then go next year, when the draft will be weaker.
And when the fans at Kentucky don't care much, just think of the overall condition of college basketball. They better fix it quickly, or college basketball is at the beginning of the end.
So you think cal should recruit 2*/3* players who may or may not develop into championship caliber players after two or three years, versus getting the best players available and becoming immediate threats to win it all every year?
To each his own. i can’t think of another coach i’d rather have at UK.
Cal isn’t given the most lucrative contract in cbb and uk history to do what other coaches can. My expectations are based on what cal set as the bar. Hes failed to meet it
Very true. He’s got a lot of ability and potential, but he didn’t even hold his own in college this past season. What makes him think he’s ready to compete against the best players in the world!
Has nothing to do with Hurt. The only Hurt involved is the possibility of EJ going pro. Hurt is Duke bound.
2-3*??? This is the problem with the all in cal supporters/cult. You guys don’t realize there is somewhere in between. Tubby didn’t bring in 2* players and as I’ve said it doesn’t matter who the coach is at UK the stage alone will bring in talent. Cal just brings in whoever he can. He hasn’t built a program. He’s built a year to year process of teams. Building a program means bringing in certain players the right players. Not scrambling every spring for the best of whats left. It’s called building chemistry and developing players. Cal no longer controls OAD at UK it controls him
Oh,I think we run about the same speed if you factor in the age difference.:sunglasses:
Seems like Cal is doing ok:
Top 10 recruits 1st
Lottery picks 19
NBA player 30+
Yet we aren’t #1 in that span in titles. That’s underachieving my friend. 19 lottery picks in 10 years and 1 title. My god stop showing this graphic. We were the winningest program before cal.
Maybe it’s just me, but i really don’t want a UK coach who doesn’t try to bring in the best players he can.
I grade cal on the results of his time he’s been here, and it’s pretty damned impressive.
I look forward to next year, once again.
Oh sure. Billy G took us to the promised land. How stupid can you be. We are the top program since Cal has been here. Sorry to burst your bubble.
It is just you bc championship coaches bring in the right talent not what they can. Look at what’s going on. Pj goes, Kheldon and herro want to be pj so they go even though they aren’t pj. Now ej wants to be pj and he isn’t even in the same stratosphere as freshman pj. Remember cals comment about what staying did for pj and how he was going to pitch that? Well it didn’t work bc he’s going to have the most patchwork of teams in our history. It’s a terrible position to be in and I don’t see how anyone can spin it as anything other than.
No we re not. We are the winningest but not the top. Titles dude. And billy g was an alcoholic and didn’t belong here.
Look at the construction of the 2008 Memphis team that went 38-2 and then tell me why we can’t replicate that model? Is it just because our brand is now one and done and we can only attract that mentality?
I don’t think Cal has met the expectations he set for himself, but I don’t think he’s missed by much. I think he’s earned his contract.
Dude, Dean Smith was at North Carolina 36 years and only won 2 titles. He had the best players in a time when it was much easier to win a title. Only the conference winners went to the NCAA tournament. So there were several of the best teams had to stay home. Duke had the most talented team maybe in college basketball history this year but did not win the title. Get a life. Why don't you worry about something you can control?
Cal can’t force anyone to stay, nor should he if a kid has a chance to knock down some life changing cash.
Names on the back of the jerseys will change next year but the constant is the fact that UK will once again be in the hunt for a national championship.
Again, we lost eight players from last year’s roster and this year cal still took our team to overtime in the regional championship.
It is probably because recruits read this board and decide they don't want to play at a school that has negative fans like you.
If titles are the only thing that matters, it's not a very realistic position.
I mean did anyone watch the recent tournament? Did anyone see the games involving the eventual champion UVA?
Gone are the days that one team is going to be that much better than the rest. Coming down to elite 8 games onward, you could have flipped a coin in most cases.
All I can ask of this team is that we are in the conversation most years..........Cal has done that. We were good enough this year and we were good enough in 2017 as well.
If u keep putting yourself in these positions, at some point it will result in a title.
I wish you'd just be a Florida State fan again. You weren't nearly as sad.
Taking a new roster to regional championship game is an achievement? Hahaha what would happen if we had relatively normal roster turnover? Talent only takes you so far. Elite 8 is about the ceiling after that you need returning contributors to win a championship. Forget it we’ve become OAD U for fringe nba players and we have become elite 8 U for results. The cal cult is happy with that but I’m going to tell you a couple more seasons like this and the backlash will out number the cal cult. It’s growing every year since 2015. Remember what happened after 8 years of tubby not making a ff?? It’s going to be far worse bc the cal can do no wrong crowd is a nasty group.
I like cal don’t get me wrong but I don’t take his word or what he does hook line and sinker and I’m not going to drink the kool aid. The people who are most concerned don’t post on message forums and they have held their tongue publicly but this continues and there is going to be a reckoning. The cal can do no wrong crowd is dwindelling but their voices are the loudest.
Titles account for 60-70%. I would rather have 3 titles and 3 final fours and get knocked out the first weekend the other years over the last 10!years than the results we ve had. How about you?