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Ozzy, if you think this is me "complaining" now, just wait till the regular season.
We're not exactly in play a game mode, so it doesn't hurt to explore other aspects of coaching. I know Scott is a good football offensive play caller. It bears it out when Oregon runs up and down the field all season long and then Auburn shuts them completely down.
I doubt you'll find any coaches or programs in the Big Ten fear Frost and his coaching knowledge. If I were a college coach, and if I won less than 40% of my games, I would expect to get my *** fired and maybe go down to the level of head coach where I belong.
If I coached a team, and I coached from 1972 to 1994, I wouldn't keep the same loser *** coaches for 4 straight losing seasons and then be told to, or forced to fire 80% of my offensive staff.
If I had an inexperienced, physically talented kid at center who spent most of the season snapping the ball from the QB's head to his toes, I may have called someone in before the season started, who could correct it in 3 days.
A great coach identifies weaknesses in his own team before he can begin to exploit weaknesses in the teams he plays. Nobody has to draw me a picture of what good, sound fundamental football looks like.
Old timers like myself have seen what great football looks like, because we saw it in OU, Miami, FSU, Penn State, Ohio State and Nebraska. You don't have to be a brilliant mind like Frost to coach winning football, but you gotta have your head outta your fanny and pay attention to detail.
This program has sucked under Frost, and if it reverses, it's because he was made to keep his hands off the coaching abilities of his assistants.
Don't take it personal Ozzy, you're entitled to your opinion, just as I am. It's not a matter if you or I are right or wrong. Some agree, some disagree. No big deal.
Totally agree with. If NU, not possible in 100 years, was lucky to hire Dabo, the success would happen by the 2nd year. Not Clemson type successs, but perhaps good enough to win the West and play OSU or MICH within 7-10 pts in a game that mattered.
But, its possible by year 3, NU would be able to win the West on a regular basis and maybe beat OSU or MICH every other year or once in 3 years. OSU has such an advantage in talent coming in, that it still comes down to the dogs.
Dabo is a definite keeper and Bama would be lucky to have him follow Saban, when he retires in another 20 years.
Yeah, look at all those championships that Kansas and Iowa State won. They are so much better than Michigan and Ohio State, right?
If the B1G was so bad compared to the Big 12, why weren't we able to go in and instantly win the conference?
We played in 2 conf title games in our first 3 years in the B1G with some pretty avg teams by our standards
now we have taken on the full identity of our B1G brethren & have transformed to rooting for media money instead of meaningful wins on the field
We were blown off the field by Wisconsin in the 2012 B1G championship game. Which begs the question, if we were so good, why did we get blown off the field by an average Wisconsin team?
we weren't 'so good'
we easily walked into the b1g title game because the league is trash
Yet we couldn't beat that same "trash" Wisconsin team that we beat earlier in the season.
we didn't have a good team & walked into the championship game
you are right - our not good team couldn't beat wisc's not good team twice
I'm sure Solich knew Nebraska's culture. But was he able to convey that message to others and get it out of them?
You are right on one thing. We have declined since joining the B1G, but not because the B1G is a bad conference like you claim. I think it has more to do with the fact that switching conferences has had a negative impact on recruiting ( we can't recruit in the state of Texas like we used to). I think that is our biggest reason for our decline. Also, the B1G is deeper from top to bottom than the Big 12. At least in the Big 12, you could count on Kansas and usually Iowa State for a couple of easy wins inside the conference. In the B1G, even bottom feeders like Illinois have a shot at winning, in fact we have lost to them the past couple of years. We really don't have anyone in the B1G that we can pencil in for an easy win.
You bring up the Assistants , Frank wanted change TO said if you want the job these guys stay. When Bo got hired , TO interviewed Gary Patterson, Brian Kelly Cincinnati at the time and Jim Grobe from Wale Forest coming of a couple 10 win seasons .It came down to TO wanted input on the Assistants and had names for these guys and He went with Bo because Bo said yes to them, If TO stays out of Franks way , who knows.
If you can’t identify the team in your conference that you can pencil in for an easy win then you are the team that others pencil in for an easy win Winking
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Ok? What's your point? Also, everyone wants to say Solich was better than Callahan, Riley, Pelini and now Frost. It's obviously a different time, but you really can't compare anything there. Callahan might be the closest as he came after Solich and a 10 win season, but what if Mike Riley was given the keys to Osborne's kingdom? Does he keep it rolling? How about if Solich comes back and has to relieve Callahan? Does he have success? You will never know the answer. Time has just told us that all are mediocre to bad and should not have been the coaches here.
To me, we ****** up by hiring Solich and should have let Byrne do his thing. There were rumors of young Bob Stoops being targeted among others. It's over now, but as much good as TO did for us as a coach, he really ****** us in some ways after his coaching was over including the hiring of Pelini. Overall our entire admin has been **** for a long time. Perlman, TO, Pedey, Eichorst, Moos the list goes on. Byrne proved to be a pretty good AD and should have just let him roll.
Basically my point was In my opinion TO stuck his noise into a couple places he shouldn’t have.
The telltale sign that Frank was in over his head is when he couldn’t out recruit Oklahoma and Texas so he went to recruiting head to head with kst mizzo Iowa st. If the clock could be turned back be interesting to see what Mac brown would have done replacing TO since it’s public knowledge Mac wanted the job
Dude, we are the easy win
talk about delusional
when you surround yourself with dullards, it’s hard to maintain an edge
Well, it isn't fair, when the team you are playing surprises you with a defensive front different than the one you practiced for, what's a poor coach to do?
However if the B1G we're as bad as you claim it is, that would not be the case.
We went 0-2 against two separate CU teams that finished last in the pac12
is that also because the pac12 is good?
That's not fair. One of those years, they had a 1st time head coach, so we really didn't know what to expect and couldn't prepare, which made it extra super-duper hard on our coaches.
No, it disappeared after Solich.
Frank won a conference championship and a major bowl.
He won almost 10 games a year.
He had us in the NC game four years after TO left.
He had us ranked pre-season #1 three years after TO left.
He got fired after/during a 10 win season.
You can make the argument that the talent in 2003 was not near what it was in 1995, but the culture was as good as during the glory years, otherwise we wouldn't have won 10 games in 2003. The overall talent in 2003 was similar to TOs teams that went 9-3 over the years, with several players in the system who would earn All Conference or even All American status had Solich continued (Incognito, Williams, Carriker, the Bullocks brothers, Barrett Rudd, LeKevin Smith, etc.).
We're further away from being back then we have been since Frank was fired. We were closer to being back under Callahan, Pelini, and even the first 2 years of Riley than now.
The team has problems on the OL and I don't know if it's physical. We bring in new players on the OL then we never play them.
But the biggest problem we have, and it's been the biggest problem since Frost has been here, is that for all intents and purposes, our defense sucks. They have sucked since 2016, and the only time we have stopped anyone for an entire game is when the other team's offense sucks. Their performance had made it hard for our offense to gain any momentum, and they are almost always playing catch-up.
Let's go back to 2016. If you applied the point totals of our opponents for each game in 2016 to the point totals for each game last season, we would have finished 9-3 in 2021.
Sure, last Saturday we did some bonehead things, but maybe in the last 10 minutes if we had been ahead 28-17 instead of being down 31-28, maybe we don't have to throw to walk on TEs. Maybe we could go to a FB and try to run the game out.
We have lots of problems guys (including the officiating), but the 800 lb gorilla in the room is our ****** defense. I don't think it's physical either. It's coaching, scheme, DBs out of position in that strange zone thing that Chin is doing.
The biggest tragedy in firing Solich had nothing to do with him as such. He was a decent coach but recruiting had slipped. The tragedy was that in firing him and hiring Callahan, you destroyed the unique offense we had which had given us our identity.
especially against NW. Their offense was among the worst last year nationally and was relatively unchanged.
And our defense has been super soft for a long time. We've had a reaction type defense that plays off the offense as opposed to one that attacks for years now. Coaches want to limit big plays but it appears the linemen are taught to engage the OL and drive them back to the QB instead of attacking like we see with all our opponents who constantly put our QB's under pressure immediately.
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