Duke's Thornton transferring

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TheDude1

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Yeah... kid got 26 minutes a game, was handed the reins, never really performed.

Now worried about other guys being better than him. So he left.

#noteveryoneiscutoutforthebigtimepressureofplaceslikeDukeorKentucky,andyouallknowit
 

gracetoyou

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You guys are really misunderstanding the Dook situation. Thornton's dad wanted Derryck to be the starter next year so he saw the writing on the wall when Dook bought Jackson in and it was becoming likely that Grayson would return. Derryck's dad basically forced him to transfer because he wanted his son to play more than 10-15 minutes on a team.

At any rate, Grayson will be Dook's PG next year. One of my friends who's subscribed to one of their premium boards told me that this is how their starting lineup will most likely shake up next year:

G: Grayson Allen
G: Matt Jones
F: Jayson Tatum
F: Amile Jefferson
F: Harry Giles

Bench Unit
G: Frank Jackson
G: Luke Kennard
F: Chase Jeter
F: Javin DeLaurier
C: Marques Bolden

My friend told me that K convinced Allen to come back his junior year to give him the reigns to the PG position so he can be a lottery pick next year as a true point guard.

He better get faster & improve handle because he looked like crap against UK when he tried to play some point. PG will be the achillies heel of this talented Duke roster.
 

SWEc/o95

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Hell looks like you guys have no problem retweeting the uncle trashing K in the process , why don't you ask him straight up why he's transferring? But my guess is he don't want to compete for PT.
 

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We could ask Coach K was he told Thornton but we all know he would have 'acting incorrectly.' We don't use the word lie when referring to the 'leading of young men.' Media wants to be like Mike so they worship him.
 
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Yeah... kid got 26 minutes a game, was handed the reins, never really performed.

Now worried about other guys being better than him. So he left.

#noteveryoneiscutoutforthebigtimepressureofplaceslikeDukeorKentucky,andyouallknowit

Or.....kid got 26 minutes, wasn't good enough to keep them from getting Bolden (or keep UK from getting him), so he was cut.

Six of one......
 

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I'm a Duke fan, I like to talk ish to UK bball and you all, but in reality this transfer stings. I am being somewhat blasted for saying that Jackson isn't a true PG. Duke will be deep and talented, no doubt, but no PG scares me a bit. I also don't like how this has gone down. DT moves up early, then transfers? I don't like it, but am not allowed to question the program, or I am not a real fan.
 

ukfan606

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Of course K told him he didn't need him next year. K was able to convince Ted Cruz Jr to come back next season so he didn't need Thornton anymore.
 

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Or.....kid got 26 minutes, wasn't good enough to keep them from getting Bolden (or keep UK from getting him), so he was cut.

Six of one......

Dude they didn't force DT to get Bolden, just stop with that. You mean they'd take an Aussie 3 star player in White over DT? You also forget that Obi most likely will be gone after seeking medical hardship. The Bolden "force-out" conspiracy holds no water.
 

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Pushed out or not, this hurts Duke. This leaves them without a true point guard, Allen nor Jackson are point guards. I doubt Duke wins it all now, despite how much talent they'll have.
 

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Or.....kid got 26 minutes, wasn't good enough to keep them from getting Bolden (or keep UK from getting him), so he was cut.

Six of one......

And I would counter that by saying that DT was more important to next years team than Bolden.
 

TheDude1

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Kid couldn't handle that he might miss out on time because better kids were coming on board.

#askKyleWandRyanHhowtheyhandledit

And yeah, those people who rant on Twitter are usually the ones handling everything the right way. Everyone knows that.
 

DwayneMeighan

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That was fun to see but that game was back in November, its time to let it go.

Of course a Duke fan would say that. Besides, it wouldn't have mattered if the game was in March, the outcome would have been the same. Allen was the same exact player at the end of the year as he was in November.

His go to move was to just put his head down, barrel full speed at the basket and try to score or flop his head back like he was just hit with a sudden case of whiplash and try to draw a foul.

The problem with that is, and the reason he didn't fare too well against UK, is because they had guards that were quick enough to defend him while moving their feet, stay in front of him without fouling, and were still able to keep enough distant that his flop wasn't called by the refs. Hate to tell you, but none of that would have been any different, regardless of what month it was.
 
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SWEc/o95

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Maybe Frank can be a decent point, maybe not. Thornton was ranked a better PG when he was still in Franks class. He struggled at Duke while Frank blew up and now he's nervous about PT. If that's the case, so be it. Good luck to him wherever he goes.
 

TBCat

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K didn't force Derryck out, Derryck's dad didn't like the PT last year and potentially next year.

I do agree, though, that while Duke is stacked, there isn't a PG on the roster, and they are losing their best perimeter defender, and it isn't close.
I'm not trying to be combative here but something doesn't make sense. Clearly Duke does need a PG a lot more than they need Bolden and yet Thorton is leaving because of playing time? If he's the only PG on the roster and as you state Duke clearly needs that and a perimeter defender then you would think his playing time would be limitless. And yet you also state that his dad didn't like the prospects of his playing time. Some things just don't add up here.
 

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I'm not trying to be combative here but something doesn't make sense. Clearly Duke does need a PG a lot more than they need Bolden and yet Thorton is leaving because of playing time? If he's the only PG on the roster and as you state Duke clearly needs that and a perimeter defender then you would think his playing time would be limitless. And yet you also state that his dad didn't like the prospects of his playing time. Some things just don't add up here.

I agree some things don't add up, but I can assure you that him being forced out because of scholly count is so, so wrong. They will most likely go into next season, even after Bolden, with an extra scholly after Obi rolls.
 

TheDude1

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He will have to sit out a year, per transfer rules.

Shame to see him go; have heard that he is a nice kid. Haven't heard the same about his father and other family. Shame how some kids get undermined by family.
 
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Who is on his short list of potential schools?

also, will he have to sit out a year?

Of course he will, why wouldn't he? And for the Duke poster who earlier asked about Harrow, he transfers to Georgia State, a few miles from his home because his father had suffered a bad stroke. Nice try though.
 
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Cal got Murray to reclass and helped him become a high lottery pick in one season. K got Thornton to reclass and now he won't even be playing in college next year. Who's better at maxing value for the one and dones? It's not even close.
What's funny is no recruits will actually look at this and think twice about Duke. It's like high school kids don't even watch college b-ball. Like...I can't understand how any elite big would sign with Kansas after the Cliff Alexander/Cheick Diallo disasters. I mean....the closest Cal has had to a complete bust would probably be Alex Poythress, but that was more due to lack of fire in Alex than anything Cal did or did not do for him.
 

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Duke will be talented next year, but they will not have a pure point guard running the show. Bolden will be a good get for them, but he's not an impact player. He better learn how to bang and rebound, because that's the only way he will get to touch the ball.


Jackson is more than capable to lead that team. You don't have to have a "pure" PG to be an elite team. Jackson is a legit player and I think Thornton is leaving because Jackson is so good.
 

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Thornton is going to the draft? And I did that math in a previous post, Coach K's one and dones are drafted higher on average.
Thornton is sitting out next year. He might get drafted sometime but it won't be this year. You must have used some really selective players to come up with that nonsense. Cal's much better with OADs than anybody and it's not even close.
 
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UKCAT5FAN

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Hopefully he gets better recruiting info than his info in this one. This couldn't be further from the truth, in fact coach K tried to talk him into staying.


You can't take his words to heart, you have to realize what he is doing. It's all about perception and trying to get the edge. He knows what he is doing and I'd bet this is a well thought out calculated tweet.
 

Bungalow Bill

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Wow, you guys are angry.

I'm sure if a freshman got a TON of playing time for Cal, played really badly, decided to transfer, and then his uncle started raving on twitter about Cal, you'd be PISSED at Cal. Like... super pissed.

[pfftt]

Every school doesn't work out for every kid. How'd that "Ryan Harrow" kid work out for Cal?
Since that's never happened we don't have to contemplate it but you can dream.
 
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Dude they didn't force DT to get Bolden, just stop with that. You mean they'd take an Aussie 3 star player in White over DT? You also forget that Obi most likely will be gone after seeking medical hardship. The Bolden "force-out" conspiracy holds no water.

Actually I agree with you, and all the other prempy little Dook fan boys on this. You know why? Because you ain't getting Bolden LMAO.
 
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Of course he will, why wouldn't he? And for the Duke poster who earlier asked about Harrow, he transfers to Georgia State, a few miles from his home because his father had suffered a bad stroke. Nice try though.

Well I wasn't sure...If his dad is so worked up about PT, 15 minutes a game is better than sitting out a season...

also...if uk is on the short list...great...i'll take him...would be nice to have in practice...and then he could really be something the following season...

Thornton
Matthews
Gaberial
SKJ
Hump

with Tai in the mix and whom ever Cal gets between now and then...
 

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It would be hilarious if Thornton ends up at Villanova and leads them to another championship in 2018.
 
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I don't like Coach K. He's a Bob Knight style human being that has been allowed to do whatever he damn well pleases for a long time because he's a great coach.

I don't think he "ran" the kid off. Once Allen announced his intention to return to Duke the numbers game caught up with the kid. Jackson coming in gives Duke a better player. Kennard and Allen are going to be expected to do big things next year as well. Thornton is your typical young basketball player that wants 30-40 minutes of playing time.

He could have been part of something special for them next year, but playing time and his own recognition of how inadequately he played last year led to this decision.
 
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