Oscar did transfer because another big took his starting spot. He also transferred in the middle of the season. Which is the definition of quitting and “microwave society” You just don’t care because he came here. And i don’t think everybody who doesn’t start should transfer. I think Allen should because he ain’t going to reach his ceiling here.
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Not playing semantics with you. Oscar would lead WVU in minutes this season. But regardless, it’s really besides the point. You’re on a Kentucky message board, claiming it be a Kentucky fan, wanting a Kentucky kid to transfer...
If you don’t understand the poor optics of that, I can’t help you. But trolls gonna troll. If not trolling, just a dumb take
Lol ok. Me having a difference in opinion has zero to do with my fandom and doesn’t mean I’m trolling.
I think it would be good for you to transfer.
Come at me, All-American Gold Member. I want Dantaie to transfer because Calipari has never given him a fair shot at playing time, and Calipari is never going to give Dantaie a fair shot at playing time. I have no way to know Calipari's motivation for refusing to give Dantaie a fair shot at playing time, but if I had to guess I'd say a lot of it is to give an "up-yours" middle finger to the large part of the U.K. fan base, including me, who thinks (and says) exactly what I just wrote here -- that Calipari has never given, and will never give Dante Allen a fair shot at playing time.
Damn your "optics." I'm not "claiming" to be a Kentucky fan. I am a U.K. fan, and I've been a U.K. fan since (probably) before you were born. The differences between you and me, with respect to this issue, are two: (1) I want what's best for Dantaie Allen, regardless of any b.s. "optics". (2) I think Calipari has mistreated Dantaie, and you think Dantaie should continue to tolerate the mistreatment because he's a Kentucky kid and he has the "privilege" of sitting on U.K.'s bench.
Allen is a spot up shooter. If he gets enough PT, he will hit some shots and win KY some games.
i am saying other people saying dumb **** is no reason to dislike him or hope he fails. i am not saying you do that bc I have no idea. but lots of people on here seem to want him to fail here and i don’t get it
Can’t argue against this. Can’t bash guys who transfer when your team relies on them!
Wheeler could have had 20 assists tonight if Allen had made his open threes.
Allen with a good finish 2nite and a solid game.
Allen played well tonight! That’s the reason he got more minutes!
Don't see this mentioned much, and its not like Allen has gotten a lot of opportunity to make it apparent, but he is a fantastic passer. Noticed it even last season, hes got great vision and touch.
Kind of a pointless aside considering his other skills and role, but if the guy was a ball-handling guard it would be sweet to see a lot of passing finesse and lobs.
Kind of a pointless aside considering his other skills and role, but if the guy was a ball-handling guard it would be sweet to see a lot of passing finesse and lobs.
Allen is more than a spot up shooter. As he showed late in the game. Second leading rebounder tonight behind Oscar. The kid needs the green light to be more than a spot up shooter from Cal. I’m not sure he has that.
Yeah, that game contradicts his “eating a loss” comment. We lost that game with Allen not coming off the bench. At all. Allen had literally nothing to do with the one loss we have. His presence could have potentially changed the outcome, but we’ll never know.
Allen really stepped up tonight in all facets of his game, still some things to improve on but this is definitely a step in the right direction. Now he just needs to start connecting on more of those 3s
Allen is a sophomore. Lets allow him to grow as a player that is a sophomore. Kellan Grady is a perfect player for Dontaie to watch play everyday in practice and in games. He's gonna be just fine.
For such a big fan of his you sure managed to spell Dontaie wrong an impressive number of times and in a variety of ways, well done.
Yeah. I mean Grady’s just light years ahead, right? In 14 more minutes per game, Grady averages a whopping 4ppg more than Allen, and has half as many rebounds and assists. Perfect player to sit back and watch!
What folks envisioned Grady would be based on his time at Davidson and what Grady ACTUALLY IS are quite different. Neither of these dudes has played particularly well, but Grady hasn’t come close to doing what he was brought in to do. If the minutes were reversed, Allen would average at least what Grady does, while grabbing even more boards and dishing out even more assists (statistics, as I’ve already pointed out, he already leads Grady in).
There is a big difference in what Grady and Allen bring to the team. On an defensive rebound or a steal Grady is often sprinting out at the front of the fast break. This puts a lot of pressure on the defense. Plus he can finish on those plays and regularly does. Grady is also a threat to pull up with a defender close to him. Allen doesn't really bring either of those things, yet. He is a set shot shooter at the moment. It was great to see him take advantage of all the attention that Oscar gets on the boards.
I'd like to see them on the floor together. If Allen can hit his shots more consistently, plays defense more aggressively and keeps hitting the boards I could see him taking some of Brooks minutes and not Grady's.
So, Grady allegedly shoots so much better but is only averaging 4 pts more with a lot more PT? And he also trails Allen in almost every other category. I am not seeing the benefit you are. It's not like Allen can't shoot either. Truth be told, he is probably every bit as good of a shooter as Grady when he gets going.
Not sure why you quoted me. Your comment doesn't address anything there. I never said who was a better shooter. My comment is that Grady brings something Allen doesn't at this point. Allen is not going to be the first player down the court on a fast break giving Wheeler a target. Plus I'm not sure if Allen is going to finish in traffic on a fast break. Grady allows us to play faster off misses and turnovers. Giving that we have a terrific rebounder and a player that gets steals that is a plus.
I can't ever recall this being an advantage. And on the flip, if Dontaie is trailing the play, doesn't that mean he has the opprotunity to be left wide open on the perimeter?
And if this is such a difference making skill for Grady, how the hell is it only netting 4 more points per game than Allen with 14 more mpg going to Grady. I would rather see what Allen would do if given those 14 min. Something tells me he would score more, rebound more, have more assists and be at least as good defensively. Just not seeing the net gain with Grady that you are evidently.
Allen hasn't shot for crap this year.. 26% from 3 and 38% from the floor.
Grady 46% from 3 and 48% from the floor. Thats a stark difference.
I'm glad Allen is doing more on the floor this year to earn himself more minutes. But Grady and Allen are ultimately on the floor to do the same thing(shoot). Allen isn't, Grady is and at a very high level.
Grady 46% from 3 and 48% from the floor. Thats a stark difference.
I'm glad Allen is doing more on the floor this year to earn himself more minutes. But Grady and Allen are ultimately on the floor to do the same thing(shoot). Allen isn't, Grady is and at a very high level.
Wouldn’t that be more a function of the amount he’s getting than anything else? In 6 games played Grady has only taken double digit shots twice. He’s getting about 7 shots a game. So arguing that “if he’s so good a shooter why does Allen only average 4 points a game less” is totally disingenuous.
If anything, he should be getting more shots since he’s shooting 47% from the field and 46% from 3. And well, we know Allen doesn’t come close to that.
I have no issues with Grady getting more shots when he is in. However, more shots likely means his % will fall some. However, similar arguments can be made of Allen. If he had more consistent opportunities to get in the flow, his numbers likely go up. Am I just imaging things or wasn't Allen a really good shooter last year and his entire career before?
The reason Grady doesn't get a lot of looks is because he doesn't work hard enough to get himself open. He looks a little confused at times offensively to be honest. Even Cal has commented on it.
I definitely know you want us to go home early in March. You would rather UK suck just to say I told ya so.
It would be fine to eat a loss or two to appease the fans who think Allen is somehow being mistreated(lol), rather than ones who players who they don’t like play and win.
No. Hope to be wrong. There's still time to change. Having Brooks shoot long twos is not a recipe for success. Of course any individual game can be different.
I've been watching UK for almost 50 years. I don't need people like you telling me what I want. You have no clue. I watch enough basketball to know that teams do not rely on long twos. Maybe if you get an exceptional shooter it would work.
I just want to remind you UK was 9 and 16 last year. I don't think you mind that as long as Coach Calipari got paid.
He’s gonna get paid regardless… nobody needs a reminder of last year but I also remember all the great teams we have had. This team isn’t last year.
The players who could actually keep up with their defensive assignments were having trouble that night.
Allen would have added what? For every basket he takes, he would have given up a basket on the other end. Defense wins championships, ask Anthony Davis.