Don Lemon arrested
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maybe, maybe not. I mean, what journalist actually says that as part of his report?
Let me know the next time you quash a subpoena to Joe Schmoe for his cell phone video based on 1A considerations.
What does this have to do with the right to publish the content without government interference and free from retribution?
Again, who defines who is "the press"? And what is that definition? And how does that exclude the "anyone with a cellphone" hypothetical group you suggested, as long as said hypothetical person intends to, or publishes, the information?
"I don't have a regret about my behavior that day," he said outside the courthouse.
Blaze News is part of an online platform that conservative political commentator Glenn Beck founded in 2011 after leaving Fox News. Baker started writing for the media outlet after the Jan. 6 siege. He was working as a freelance journalist on Jan. 6 and later sold videos of the riot to The New York Times and HBO.
Baker's coverage of the Jan. 6 attack included the trial of Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes and four associates charged with seditious conspiracy for a plot to keep Trump in the White House after he lost the 2020 election. Baker covered the trial from a courthouse room reserved for news reporters.
Baker was arrested and charged in March with four misdemeanor counts, including trespassing and disorderly conduct charges. He pleaded guilty to all four counts.
After the riot erupted, Baker entered the Capitol through a broken door and joined the mob at the barricaded doors to the House chamber, according to an FBI agent's affidavit.
In another part of the Capitol, the affidavit says, Baker "antagonized" police officers who tried to keep him on the other side of a doorjamb, repeatedly asking, "Are you going to use that (gun) on us?" He remained inside the building for approximately 37 minutes before police led him out of the Capitol, according to the FBI.
The affidavit cites statements that Baker made during and after the riot. After leaving the Capitol, he told a local television station that he was "quite excited to see this going on."
"Do I approve of what happened today? I approve 100%," he said, according to the affidavit.
Baker also told the station that approximately 20 to 30 people were inside then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's office "at the time that I got there." In a video uploaded to a YouTube channel on Jan. 6, Baker also referred to Pelosi with a sexist expletive.
"The only thing I regret is that I didn't like steal their computers because God knows what I could've found on their computers if I'd done that. But by the time I got into Pelosi's office, unfortunately there was some damage done," Baker said, according to the FBI.
Writer pleads guilty to Capitol riot charges
A writer for a conservative media outlet has pleaded guilty to joining a mob's attack on the U.S. Capitol nearly years ago.
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And?"I don't have a regret about my behavior that day," he said outside the courthouse.
Blaze News is part of an online platform that conservative political commentator Glenn Beck founded in 2011 after leaving Fox News. Baker started writing for the media outlet after the Jan. 6 siege. He was working as a freelance journalist on Jan. 6 and later sold videos of the riot to The New York Times and HBO.
Baker's coverage of the Jan. 6 attack included the trial of Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes and four associates charged with seditious conspiracy for a plot to keep Trump in the White House after he lost the 2020 election. Baker covered the trial from a courthouse room reserved for news reporters.
Baker was arrested and charged in March with four misdemeanor counts, including trespassing and disorderly conduct charges. He pleaded guilty to all four counts.
After the riot erupted, Baker entered the Capitol through a broken door and joined the mob at the barricaded doors to the House chamber, according to an FBI agent's affidavit.
In another part of the Capitol, the affidavit says, Baker "antagonized" police officers who tried to keep him on the other side of a doorjamb, repeatedly asking, "Are you going to use that (gun) on us?" He remained inside the building for approximately 37 minutes before police led him out of the Capitol, according to the FBI.
The affidavit cites statements that Baker made during and after the riot. After leaving the Capitol, he told a local television station that he was "quite excited to see this going on."
"Do I approve of what happened today? I approve 100%," he said, according to the affidavit.
Baker also told the station that approximately 20 to 30 people were inside then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's office "at the time that I got there." In a video uploaded to a YouTube channel on Jan. 6, Baker also referred to Pelosi with a sexist expletive.
"The only thing I regret is that I didn't like steal their computers because God knows what I could've found on their computers if I'd done that. But by the time I got into Pelosi's office, unfortunately there was some damage done," Baker said, according to the FBI.
Writer pleads guilty to Capitol riot charges
A writer for a conservative media outlet has pleaded guilty to joining a mob's attack on the U.S. Capitol nearly years ago.
If you believe that headline, you didn't even listen to his actual words, or you don't understand them. I'm betting on both.
You see, Maga doesn't care about laws or facts. Only power. Power to exert cruelty, to demand loyalty and to quiet dissent.
Maga cultists don't even know what reality is, so their cynsism breeds their complicency in this fascist admins plans and actions.
Don Lemon covered protestors. That doesn't make him a protestor. Thats like arresting a field journalist in a war area covering rebels for being a rebel. Its stupid. Yall are watching stupid and illegal things being done. But you can't assert an objective view on this reality because your fan boys of an admin that requires disbelief in reality.
Maga cultists don't even know what reality is, so their cynsism breeds their complicency in this fascist admins plans and actions.
Don Lemon covered protestors. That doesn't make him a protestor. Thats like arresting a field journalist in a war area covering rebels for being a rebel. Its stupid. Yall are watching stupid and illegal things being done. But you can't assert an objective view on this reality because your fan boys of an admin that requires disbelief in reality.
Hahah please help me out, little guy. I’m sure you and Don have a lot more in common than just being colossal fa**
I'm not interested in stooping to your level but if you need help to understand it, that's all that needs to be said about you.
He doesnt understand anything. He only see's a perceived enemy being punished and is cheering. He's a fascist.
So Steve Baker got what he deserved and Don Lemon did not
got it
no one's saying you don't have the right to publish, though a traditional press organization would say whether i do or don't publish, yuo can't have my source materials. so it's indicative of whether true 1a press activitiy is involved.
ultimately, courts will decide, but it's pretty clear to me that "the press" is not "everybody". it's more likely that non-press joe schmoe may succeed on a much simpler 'free speech' claim if there's suppression involved. either way, conduct and expression will still be different things, and if conduct involves violating other 1a rights, well...
what's going to be interesting - a landmark case - is someone who has his own podcast or YouTube channel or whatever a journalist? That seems to be what Lemon is counting on. He has no "press credentails" or even "internet credentials" he just calls himself a journalist, does that make it so??
That's a really good question, and one I can't answer. Maybe he can lean on the fact that he was an actual accredited journalist with a major publication for many years before striking out to go on his own (idk why he left/was fired.) He probably has a better argument for being an "independent journalist" than some random Joe who's just running around with a gopro, but i'll be curious to see what the courts say because like you said, it could be a landmark case.
There's no Constitutional right to protect one's sources/source materials. That's not what the 1st Amendment freedom of the press is about. Protecting sources is a state matter.
But, yes, it does appear that "the press" is "everybody" ... as long as they're planning to gather and publish information (or have done so) ... and that includes on the internet (via social media, etc.). Again, if you want to challenge this ... then define who "the press" is, for 1A purposes, in a way that differs from this. I publish a story, or post a video ... am I the press? I publish another story, or post another video ... am I now the press? I call myself "Myself's Press" ... am I the press? I repeat this for 52 weeks ... Am I the press? I join up with another person who gathers information and posts videos or writes stories about it ... am I the press? When do I become "the press"?
Freedom of the press isn't concerned with protecting (just) the New York Times, or CNN ... it's concerned with protecting the gathering and dissemination of information ... by people ... any people ... without unreasonable restrictions from the government.
That can be via global media behemoth, or that can be some dude recording video on an iphone.
You should be aware that you are complicit in a fascist dictatorship. I mean, its objectively true. Arresting a journalist doing journalist things, is dictator stuff buddy.
I get it, you don't have any response because you can't acknowledge the truth. Its ok, as I stated yesterday, I understand you.
"Don was arrested despite a federal judge rejecting prosecutors’ bid to charge him last week. This is outrageous.
Journalists face harassment, imprisonment, and death simply for doing their jobs. You don’t need a passport to find this out. Just ask Don Lemon. Energy spent targeting reporters would be far better spent investigating the real issues, like the systemic injustices that brought people into the streets in the first place. Don must be released immediately."
Yah, this is pretty dumb. Like everyone who understands the law, knows this is a joke.
"TMZ's Harvey Levin goes nuclear on Trump over the arrest of Don Lemon:
Arresting Don Lemon, who covered a protest in Minneapolis, is just insane. Ridiculous. Dictator-like. This is the playbook that dictators use to destroy democracies and take the will of the people away. It is as simple as that.
Watch that video. He is covering the protest. That is what journalists do.
I covered riots. I was a local reporter in Los Angeles for 15 years, and I covered riots and floods and earthquakes and all sorts of things where I had to step into areas where there were police, where there was activity, private property. When you're covering an event like this, like a protest, which I have covered many, you step into it. That's what journalists do. And that's what Don Lemon did.
It is insane that they are making this stupid argument. This is a ridiculous assault, and I don't want to say just on the First Amendment. It's a ridiculous assault on democracy. The Trump administration should be ashamed of itself, but they're not. And they will continue to do this. And they are going after journalists. They're getting search warrants for their homes.
It is obvious what's happening in this country. So wise up, everybody. This is an outrage."
You sounding out posts again? Have your boyfriend adjust your coat hanger and maybe that lisp will go away.
Pathetic.
Dpic goes to look at political affiliation and then makes a decision based off that.
wait Lemon is democratic? This is unconstitutional! He should be allowed to do anything and everything he wants to do!
Pathetic? Again, if we are saying the guy was wrong to be prosecuted for being a journalist on Jan 6, then shouldn't you be defending Lemon? Or is it only partisan on DPIC's understanding? Isn't it also completely partisan on yours?
That is, if you want to make a 1 to 1 comparison.
But thats the whole justification here in this thread. That a journalist, acting within their first amendment right, can travel where the news is. If we venture into civil law, a person is trespassed when they are asked to leave from PRIVATE PROPERTY. Which is why no honorable judge would take this case. You have to wonder, if theres no lawful basis for this arrest. Then what is the basis? What do you think?