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You have to be careful with that, and consider the context. For example, if he said something evidencing a character issue (which racism certainly does at the highest level) how old was he? did he truly mean it in an offensive manner rather than just parroting something he heard?, etc.
As previous posters mentioned, and from what I read in an article, he was 14 and quoted a rap song with the word "n*ggA" in it. Frankly, White kids probably shouldn't buy or support that music, if they aren't allowed to quote or sing it without threat of having their lives ruined. Unless there's a lot more to it than that, racism is a ridiculous charge.
This is so stupid. The supposedly "racist" tweet occurred when he was a 14 year old kid, and it was merely quoting the lyrics of a rap song that happened to have the word ni**a in it.
It's just moronic for you to think you can judge the kid's character based on that. And it has absolutely NOTHING to do with why Cal didn't recruit him. The reason Cal didn't recruit him is because Cal simply doesn't recruit 3 Stars who are only ranked 120th. Period.
This is one of the dumbest non-stories ever.
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Anyone still think this kid is jamming out to meek mill? Why he denied a comment that was made when he was 14 on twitter is beyond me. It was probably goodman who dug up his twitter account and played that card
it matters who says what. There are lots of different standards that people can be held to. For instance if you are black you are allowed to say certain things. If you are white and say them you go to prison. And blacks can't be racist. Only whites can be got it?
As I read, it's because he didn't remember it when he was first asked about it.
Which is entirely believable. Who remembers every dumb thing they ever said or wrote when they were a 14 year old kid?
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I am just saying what may of put off Coaches or recruiters about him coming from HS, shows immaturity and no foresight. It's a common problem with the youth today, no accountability no consequences...
I know if Cal had recruited him it would of come to light.
It's a story because Villanova lied about being hacked and then got caught lying then removing tweet.
So if I start quoting Mein Kauf, it's non story, or if I post porn, it's a non story...
Accountability is what is missing in society today, keyboards and screens destroyed common decency
Kid was stunned that someone immediately tried to piss all over the greatest moment in his life, by digging 7 years into his past for something to complain about. Yes, he should've owned up to it right away, but in this day and age a perfectly understandable explanation still isn't good enough for some people, anyway.
Let's be honest the kid said it when he was 14 he was obviously quoting a rap lyric much like your typical surban middle class white kids do. He didn't think something said so long ago would come back to haunt him. Everyone says stupid ****. It's the context in which he said it. Anyone claiming he's racist is just as bad a second him denying the quote to begin with. Maybe Russia knew this day was coming and did it while he was still 14 years old
No different than the Harrison twins referring to some whitey for Wisconsin when saying F that N
Main difference is one said before joining a program vs one saying while a member on a team in a live situation not typing it out.
Main thing is, I was originally responding to why many missed on Donte the next white hope in hs...
Can’t anyone enjoy f****** college basketball now without f******* worrying who is going pro?
Geez, granted I’ve always hated the nba, but this is tiresome
For those that didn't see it:
"Ballin on these n*ggas like I'm derrick rose!"
In Aug of 2011... apparently from a rap song that had recently come out.
Edit: I've not read anything about the content of the supposed homophobic tweets.
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That's what I meant by context. Based on that information, it is not only ridiculous to bring that up as in any way suggesting racism, it's also extremely unfair and just wrong.
A racist is a morally deficient person; and a white supremacist or white supremacist sympathizer is on a level near that of a child molester. So, my point was – don’t throw garbage out suggesting racism in a situation like that. The young man deserves much better, and should actually have some recourse against anyone that tried to associate him with such scum.
I am/was agreeing with you. My post was meant to be supporting evidence, so apologies if it came off otherwise.
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Good lord, this is so dumb. The reason big time programs like UK missed on hiim had NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with that. Nobody even knew about the tweet until today.
The reason programs like UK missed on him is simply because he was not a highly ranked a prospect in high school. UK does NOT chase after prospects from Delaware rated as mere 3 stars and only 120th by Rivals. Such prospects do not even get a look from Cal. It had nothing whatsoever to do with a silly tweet quoting a rap lyric when he was a 14-year-old kid.
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Those labels get thrown around so much that they have lost all meaning.
Thank you!!! Exactly why UK didn't recruit him. Story over
black supremacist sympathizers are equally maybe more so on a level near that of child molestors.
Cannibalize him? Wow. He had huge limitations as did the roster Cal put him on. He was not the best PG on the roster. I got the feeling that he hated it here and didn't really try and hide it.
Evil is evil. There are no levels. Right is right, wrong is wrong. Moral or immoral. Love or hate. Problem today is people justify the '' various" shades in between. That is why today's world is so effed up
First of all, you can keep your homophobia crap to yourself because not everyone (majority) buys into that political tactic. It's absurd.
The only thing that comes out of most social media is BS.
From what I've gathered he referenced a rap song and said n***a. Guess what? This might come as a shock to you, but the word N****(a) ( I only censor it because not everyone has caught up) is another word for "friend" today. I was class of 04 in high school '10 in college. People who are friends and fairly close use that word as a friendly greeting today. I cant believe this has to be explained.
And if you've got a problem with "homophobia", start with rap, because that's half of the platform even today.
There's nothing brave about calling out a white kid for referencing the accepted music of the day. It doesn't go both ways.
I swear it's like some people live in 95% white dominated areas and feel guilty about it. Enough. There's a world out there going on and no one cares about this stupid backward crap.
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Stuff from when he was a 14 year old ninth grader. How terrible.
It wont matter. They will go after him anyway. That type of person is what they are, and will use anyone from any age as a target.
Did you ever hear the saying: When you throw a rock into a pack of dogs, the one that yelps got hit.
You are young, I get it. But the term Ni**er has decades of history of hate behind it. Men and women died trying to change it.
You are young, the argument shows that you like others do not believe in accountability.
Just because you and your friends use it as a term of endearment doesn't make it less offensive.
The issue is when originally came out, the first response was ignorance and then the hacking lie, then they decided to erase the tweet. So yes, I agree it sad that people went that far back, but what is telling is that individuals, like yourself, don't see past yourself and see the whole picture on how a segment of society do not and will not ever accept a racial slur as okay or normal.
No, the term n****a and the derogatory word you chose is not the same thing. But I want to unpack this.
Who needs to accept accountability and for what?
I have many black friends, I'm originally from Memphis, a predominately black city. I don't much anymore because it kind of fades, but we've all used that word to talk to each other. No one is offended in that context, it's a different word.
I had no control over the shift of that word into another word with totally different meaning. All I know is when I was growing up in my area, the word was used by everyone.
You would think a person like you who is so moral would love the idea that the word has been desensitized to the point where black people call each other that word. The word has been reduced to a split meaning and the worst part of it is rarely used today. Not like it was in your day I'd assume.
If you have a problem with racial slurs, the word we're talking about, and homophobia, you need to start a boycott of rap music and really you're 2 decades too late. But I'm sure you're not concerned about that.
I agree about the coverup, but I don't blame them. People have no idea how to respond to this crap today, and are afraid. If everyone would stop lying and using race as a wedge, it wouldn't happen.
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I lived in the over the Rhine area of Cincy, you and your friends may pull that **** but do it there, I'm pretty sure when you tell them you are from Memphis and have a lot POC as friends, and they said it was alright...
The word hasn't changed. It's still a racial slur and derogatory term.
Just because society has been trying to culturally appropriate it doesn't mean it is.
Many lives and years have seen it as such and I will respect that.I guarantee you would never go into a predominantly African American area and scream it out.
I guess I am dense but I don't understand your passive aggressive responses are going over my head, and probably over miss Halle Berry's as well.
But enough of this, your well spoken and are entitled to your thoughts. Good luck with that. And your Memphis response
Cool story!
Go Big Blue!
The word hasn't changed. It's still a racial slur and derogatory term.
Just because society has been trying to culturally appropriate it doesn't mean it is.
Many lives and years have seen it as such and I will respect that.I guarantee you would never go into a predominantly African American area and scream it out.
I guess I am dense but I don't understand your passive aggressive responses are going over my head, and probably over miss Halle Berry's as well.
But enough of this, your well spoken and are entitled to your thoughts. Good luck with that. And your Memphis response
Cool story!
Go Big Blue!
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Not faulting him, outraged that Nova tried to lie and cover it up...kinda surprised that people don't find the slur offensive.
Then having individual imply my political affiliation over.
I'm as red as they come, also I've grown up and understand the history and harm the word truly represents. The oppression it caused and the harm it has on our society as a whole.
Then having individual imply my political affiliation over.
I'm as red as they come, also I've grown up and understand the history and harm the word truly represents. The oppression it caused and the harm it has on our society as a whole.
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My bad. Forgot the red shirt even though I remember him on the bench in suit and tie during the title game two years ago. So he likely won't PLAY 4 years but I still think he stays 4 years; meaning I think he'll be back next year.
Political correctness run amok, again. We have all said and done things when we were teenagers. My opinion is this, if any word is ok to use by any race, then all other races should be able to use that same word. If someone is offended by a word, maybe they should develope thicker skin, and let's all move on.