Diallo

[natchezrule]

Bench Hamidookie

 

[brianpoe]

Disruptor off court.
Huge Jerk to merrimans boy... put him on my list.
Poor play doesn't warrant my venom, but cursing a 11 year old (mine is ten now). Really upsets me and makes me not like him.
Everyone can make a mistake, but cursing at a kid...
Booker went out of his way to sign for mine... after a horrible game by him and a blow out loss. If he would have cursed at him...

Im not clear that merriman was actually there when it happened.

Seems quite far fetched, especially since Wenyen was implicated as well...


I seriously hope this was a misunderstanding by the kid, but who knows?

 

[clew84]

It's crazy to me that some don't realize this. I hate what has happened to sports. We are in highly charged political atmosphere. When NFL players reintroduced politics into sports it has put every major program under a microscope. If we are to believe that a lot of these recruits, recruit's parents aren't aware, it would be stupid. It took decades to shake off the 'racist' bs that people used to associate with our program, but it's rearing it's ugly head in different ways now. Politics has saturated itself into every freaking conversation, and regretfully sports as well. Time to adapt and overcome. Get back to where this program really belongs and that is on top!!! Go Big Blue!!!

It certainly is concerning, if not disturbing. I've kept myself here on Rupp's Rafters but recently peeked at The Paddock when a political slant came up in the RR area. I could not believe what I was seeing/reading over there - what a shame. And the fact that much of that is allowed to exist on this forum is astounding. One guy proudly displays his "affiliation" (think 40s Germany) as his avatar.

 

[Elijah55]

There was a thread a week or two ago about his talking back to Cal. Frankly, I thought the issue was overblown and didn’t think much about it.
Now I think I was dead wrong.
I read Tyler Thompson’s article this morning about her being at the A&M game. If someone can link it, I would appreciate it. Diallo’s actions during the game are concerning to say the least. His running his mouth at Cal. He was the last one to come out of the locker room after half time- even Cal came out before him. Then he argued with teammates during the game and apparently screamed at Green after Hami was called for a foul. Not good.
I believe this team’s issues run deeper than fundamentals and missing shots- it’s a chemistry issue that won’t be resolved until after Diallo is no longer on the roster. There isn’t a player on the team like Ulis to tell him to stfu. Gabriel and Jones are the only ones who play minutes who have been here longer- and neither has the personality or the game to take control of the situation. I thought a long time before making this post, but I think it’s fair opinion on the issue. I hope I am wrong and will be the first to happily admit I am. But this team goes nowhere with Diallo playing a prominent role on the team imo due to his attitude.

Its just a message board homie, you dont have to walk on egg shells. Say whats on your mind and if someone does not like it, oh well.

 

[BlueRunner11]

He didn’t lie about it, he informed Cal and UK about his intentions. Sone fans on here don’t have that much intergrity.

Never said he lied about it if thats what you are implying, but for obvious reasons those intentions werent made public by either him or Cal.

I heard him say the plan was to get better for next year but I also heard him say the 2017 draft would be a conversation him and Cal would have at the end of the season so it was confusing to most. If you have some quotes or links to enlighten me, Id love to read them. Hami and Cal danced around media questions and spoke in such vague terms about it all. A none and done wouldnt have been popular regardless and they both knew this.

But he came back so it really doesnt matter, but lets not forget that he decided to come back about 1 min before the deadline. Hey if you want and can go pro, just come out and say it from the get go.That would be integrity, fine if you disagree.

 

[Blueaz]

Im not clear that merriman was actually there when it happened.

Seems quite far fetched, especially since Wenyen was implicated as well...


I seriously hope this was a misunderstanding by the kid, but who knows?

True...
I don't wish him ill will, but not a fan before and not a supporter after.

I need to pm you about a sports business thing... get your input on good or bad idea.

Take care.

 

[brianpoe]

True...
I don't wish him I'll will, but not a fan before and not a supporter after.

I need to pm you about a sports business thing... get your input on good or bad idea.

Take care.

Also... [email protected]

 

[brianpoe]

Never said he lied about it if thats what you are implying, but for obvious reasons those intentions werent made public by either him or Cal.

I heard him say the plan was to get better for next year but I also heard him say the 2017 draft would be a conversation him and Cal would have at the end of the season so it was confusing to most. If you have some quotes or links to enlighten me, Id love to read them. Hami and Cal danced around media questions and spoke in such vague terms about it all. A none and done wouldnt have been popular regardless and they both knew this.

But he came back so it really doesnt matter, but lets not forget that he decided to come back about 1 min before the deadline. Hey if you want and can go pro, just come out and say it from the get go.That would be integrity, fine if you disagree.

Fans dont have any special rights to know what players are doing behind the scenes..

And to be honest, you can locate about 100 threads where i posted quotes and other comments regarding the situation back then.

But our knee jerk alarmists had to jump on the he's a liar liar, using us, blah blah crap that made many look like worthless buttholes to be honest and I'm so glad.

Because no on had ANY evidence to back what they what they were saying while me, and a couple others provided links stating the opposite.

Besides Cal rarely shares anything.

 

[BlueRunner11]

Fans dont have any special rights to know what players are doing behind the scenes..

And to be honest, you can locate about 100 threads where i posted quotes and other comments regarding the situation back then.

But our knee jerk alarmists had to jump on the he's a liar liar, using us, blah blah crap that made many look like worthless buttholes to be honest and I'm so glad.

Because no on had ANY evidence to back what they what they were saying while me, and a couple others provided links stating the opposite.

Besides Cal rarely shares anything.

I think weve discussed this before and everything Ive always stated was backed with quotes from Diallo.

2 of the most telling ones were these...(Paraphrasing out of laziness but its in his interview)

1. When asked about the NBA, Diallo said that would be a conversation him and Cal would have at the end of the season. (Obviously it was on his radar)

2. When asked about playing, Diallo said hes not ready and trying to get better for next year. (I never saw any quote where he specifically said next season at UK, next "year" can mean several things.)

I dont think he used UK. I dont think he or Cal were lying, but there was defintely some misdirection about what was going on. Why? Cause a possible none and done is a bad look. Right or wrong, it just is.

 

[carolinacat]

Maybe he feels no one is their to support him. If he reads the garbage half you of you write, I'd rebel too. Easy to see what people say to him on social media, the peanut gallery on this board.
He is still a kid. I do not see a lack of effort. Guess what if he has a little attitude when the team plays like ****, that's probably a sign he does actually does care.Until i see him walking down court, laughing on the sidelines and not breaking a sweat, maybe then Ill believe his heart is not into it.
By all accounts, what everyone is saying on here is from a guy who actually cares to much.
think about it

Look at his numbers in SEC play...he's one of the major reasons we're playing like crap. Maybe he should direct that "attitude" at himself.

 

[Big Blue Express]

People, if you think this message board wields this kind of power, I don't know what to tell you.

If it is the message board making him feel insecure, then he needs to roll because he's an insecure little baby who is of no use to UK.

You do realize we cant have it both ways right? On one hand, they're ready to be millionaires and don't need to be educated, they are headed to a mans game and the fans that want them back just cant deal with that.

On the other hand, mean tweets and message board posters can make them shrivel up and wilt?

How does that work?

Whether he cares or not isn’t the issue. It’s his on court attitude towards the coach and his teammates that is the issue. And it doesn’t have a damn thing to do with what’s posted on this forum.

SOMETHING needs to be done NOW ! THIS CRAP IS killing this team and FANS !! GO BIG BLUE !!!

 

[KingOfBBN]

Wait til they show the families the "POLITICAL THREAD" over on The Paddock.

Oh, wait. Duke, UNC, and every west coast team has already been doing that.

We eat our young for non-basketball reasons too, and it's a damn shame.

You are a clown. You come run your mouth on the politics thread and embarrass yourself and then claim any conservative viewpoint from a fan keeps black players from coming here?

You are the worst on this forum.

 

[preacher_tom]

It is like I tell my children, If you ever learn to listen to me it would save you a lot of heartache.
Most Kids today run around with blinders on and something playing in there ears.

 

[KyFaninNC]

It is like I tell my children, If you ever learn to listen to me it would save you a lot of heartache.
Most Kids today run around with blinders on and something playing in there ears.

And their pants hanging off their ***. Music blasting in their ears blows what little brains they have downward and with nothing to hold it in, brains are falling out.

 

[Poetax]

Never said he lied about it if thats what you are implying, but for obvious reasons those intentions werent made public by either him or Cal.

I heard him say the plan was to get better for next year but I also heard him say the 2017 draft would be a conversation him and Cal would have at the end of the season so it was confusing to most. If you have some quotes or links to enlighten me, Id love to read them. Hami and Cal danced around media questions and spoke in such vague terms about it all. A none and done wouldnt have been popular regardless and they both knew this.

But he came back so it really doesnt matter, but lets not forget that he decided to come back about 1 min before the deadline. Hey if you want and can go pro, just come out and say it from the get go.That would be integrity, fine if you disagree.

It was said early and never denied, you need to keep up with your reading if you going to get butthurt when UK and Cal doesn't let you know things personally. You are a fan, nothing else, you need to move on over this.

 

[BlueRunner11]

It was said early and never denied, you need to keep up with your reading if you going to get butthurt when UK and Cal doesn't let you know things personally. You are a fan, nothing else, you need to move on over this.

Butthurt? Ive got bigger things going on in life than to get that upset about Diallo. Just always felt it couldve been handled better thats all. Also felt the best way for him to get ready for next year since that was his "plan" wouldve been getting some minutes last year. Some experience on the road, in the SEC tourney, in the NCAA tourney maybe couldve helped him/team for this year. It couldnt have hurt thats for sure.

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

Dont care for him. Won't be sad when he is gone...hopefully soon.


edit: This is the first player, I have ever felt this way about.

Not Briscoe.. he seems to.have replaced him. Not that I disagree or anything.

 

[TortElvisII]

One guy proudly displays his "affiliation"

Comedy is beyond so many.

 

[brianpoe]

Also felt the best way for him to get ready for next year since that was his "plan" wouldve been getting some minutes last year. Some experience on the road, in the SEC tourney, in the NCAA tourney maybe couldve helped him/team for this year. It couldnt have hurt thats for sure.

No doubt it could have helped him as a college player this year... but why are you discounting the huge potential of an NBA draft pick if they DONT SEE HIM?

He knew he wasnt ready, so did Cal. Coming in at the end of a P5 season as a HS Senior would be awful for even a great player. Total exposure and zsero chance of being drafted.

HD wanted that opportunity to sneak in to the NBA, he had a slight chance with just one good workout. And Cal promised him that opportunity.

Why blow that? And why is it so difficult for smart people to not be able to grasp this? Even if you dont like it?

 

[Poetax]

Butthurt? Ive got bigger things going on in life than to get that upset about Diallo. Just always felt it couldve been handled better thats all. Also felt the best way for him to get ready for next year since that was his "plan" wouldve been getting some minutes last year. Some experience on the road, in the SEC tourney, in the NCAA tourney maybe couldve helped him/team for this year. It couldnt have hurt thats for sure.

Sorry, it just seems so many get upset over the kids without really knowing the real story on anything.

 

[BlueRunner11]

No doubt it could have helped him as a college player this year... but why are you discounting the huge potential of an NBA draft pick if they DONT SEE HIM?

He knew he wasnt ready, so did Cal. Coming in at the end of a P5 season as a HS Senior would be awful for even a great player. Total exposure and zsero chance of being drafted.

HD wanted that opportunity to sneak in to the NBA, he had a slight chance with just one good workout. And Cal promised him that opportunity.

Why blow that? And why is it so difficult for smart people to not be able to grasp this? Even if you dont like it?

Sorry, it just seems so many get upset over the kids without really knowing the real story on anything.

Yeah I get the situation. I just dont like seeing him or the team struggle so much this year.

Diallo with minutes from last year. SKJ with minutes from last year. Hump (maybe returns) with more minutes from last year and some of Skals the year before. With inexperience being our achilles heel year in and year out, it all couldve helped.

Im good with you guys.

 

[KyFaninNC]

No doubt it could have helped him as a college player this year... but why are you discounting the huge potential of an NBA draft pick if they DONT SEE HIM?

He knew he wasnt ready, so did Cal. Coming in at the end of a P5 season as a HS Senior would be awful for even a great player. Total exposure and zsero chance of being drafted.

HD wanted that opportunity to sneak in to the NBA, he had a slight chance with just one good workout. And Cal promised him that opportunity.

Why blow that? And why is it so difficult for smart people to not be able to grasp this? Even if you dont like it?

I grasp it, I understand it,and I still do not like it. OAD is a struggle for me, a NAD will be too much. I will have to become as KyBassFan so affectionately calls it, CLOD, just like I became a member of the LOD during the last 2 years of Tubby.

 

[brianpoe]

I grasp it, I understand it,and I still do not like it. OAD is a struggle for me, a NAD will be too much. I will have to become as KyBassFan so affectionately calls it, CLOD, just like I became a member of the LOD during the last 2 years of Tubby.

But in this case that makes zero sense.

Diallo was not on the team last season when it launched and wasnt expected to be.

He obviously wasn’t remotely close to being able to contribute. This he had zero impact on that team.

We were not recruiting any other 2Gs and he was the highest rated so he didn’t cost us another player.

Worst case scenario he never plays for us.

We received the best case scenario except he’s still not that good.....

This was a zero risk high reward play that Cal had a 90% chance would go his way and it did.

So what if a kid we never had lived in our dorm for 3 1/2 months?

Genius move on Cal’s part and no one can blame Diallo for trying to sneak in the draft without being exposed.

 

[Cindog28]

Taking responsibility for his poor defense today, but said, "Whether it's me playing defense poorly or Quade..." (paraphrasing) Didn't have to call out his teammate like that, imo.

Gave Auburn locker room material... "They aren't a tough team, but they are a good team."

Ugh. :chairshot:

 

[KyFaninNC]

But in this case that makes zero sense.

Diallo was not on the team last season when it launched and wasnt expected to be.

He obviously wasn’t remotely close to being able to contribute. This he had zero impact on that team.

We were not recruiting any other 2Gs and he was the highest rated so he didn’t cost us another player.

Worst case scenario he never plays for us.

We received the best case scenario except he’s still not that good.....

This was a zero risk high reward play that Cal had a 90% chance would go his way and it did.

So what if a kid we never had lived in our dorm for 3 1/2 months?

Genius move on Cal’s part and no one can blame Diallo for trying to sneak in the draft without being exposed.

Agree with everything you just typed. I have moved on from that, so I am not going to rehash it now. I wish he could explode for us the rest of the year. But, I have little faith that will happen.

 

[BlueRunner11]

But in this case that makes zero sense.

Diallo was not on the team last season when it launched and wasnt expected to be.

He obviously wasn’t remotely close to being able to contribute. This he had zero impact on that team.

We were not recruiting any other 2Gs and he was the highest rated so he didn’t cost us another player.

Worst case scenario he never plays for us.

We received the best case scenario except he’s still not that good.....

This was a zero risk high reward play that Cal had a 90% chance would go his way and it did.

So what if a kid we never had lived in our dorm for 3 1/2 months?

Genius move on Cal’s part and no one can blame Diallo for trying to sneak in the draft without being exposed.

Im on board with all that you said except one thing. I believe he couldve contributed last year in a limited role. We play 99% man to man and Cals offense is not rocket science. Conditioning wise, he was at worst as ready as Vanderbilt was when he returned. Several reports were he was one of the best players in practice (I know, I know). A limited role of an energy guy wouldve been more than doable and not only helped him this year, but the team last year. Specifically, the games Fox was injured and games we were in foul trouble (UNC).

Maybe Im selfish, Im all for players first as long as the team is thriving. But when its not, its a harder pill to swallow.

Ill let it die now.

 

[wkycatfan7]

I'm sure Diallo is a good kid. He's just not as good a basketball player as he thinks he is.

 

[kevcat]

It’s almost to the point that I feel like I need to apologize for being a College Basketball fan.

It seems like more and more of our so called fans seem more preoccupied with the NBA and why our guys should all leave.

Frankly, I’m past the point of being tired of the turnover with guys who are half assed players looking to leave as fast as they get here. How about recruiting guys that actually aren’t looking for a way out of here 5 minutes after they step foot on campus?

Where is the GD pride of putting on a Kentucky uniform any more? Some of you seem more interested in mock drafts, NBA highlights, and just about everything except how we can get back to getting guys who want to actually be here. Hell, right now there’s a 5 page thread on some half assed NBA player on RR.

We have numerous posters on here that continually tell us about mock drafts, guys getting drafted on potential, yadi yadi yadi...that’s just great. You know what? I don’t give a **** about any of that.

I’ll tell you this, if Cal has more than 2 guys leave, then you NBA lovers on here might want to become full time NBA fans for good next season, because we’ll be even worse than we are this season.

 

[KyFaninNC]

Im on board with all that you said except one thing. I believe he couldve contributed last year in a limited role. We play 99% man to man and Cals offense is not rocket science. Conditioning wise, he was at worst as ready as Vanderbilt was when he returned. Several reports were he was one of the best players in practice (I know, I know). A limited role of an energy guy wouldve been more than doable and not only helped him this year, but the team last year. Specifically, the games Fox was injured and games we were in foul trouble (UNC).

Maybe Im selfish, Im all for players first as long as the team is thriving. But when its not, its a harder pill to swallow.

Ill let it die now.

I am going to disagree with you for this reason. Last year, I was worried that if Diallo joined the team and played mid season, it might hurt team chemistry, and rotation patterns. I still believe that would have happened. We came within a last second shot and some bad calls from going to a FF. I think had Diallo had played, we would not have got that far, we will never know, but that was my gut feeling.

 

[KyFaninNC]

It’s almost to the point that I feel like I need to apologize for being a College Basketball fan.

It seems like more and more of our so called fans seem more preoccupied with the NBA and why our guys should all leave.

Frankly, I’m past the point of being tired of the turnover with guys who are half assed players looking to leave as fast as they get here. How about recruiting guys that actually aren’t looking for a way out of here 5 minutes after they step foot on campus?

Where is the GD pride of putting on a Kentucky uniform any more? Some of you seem more interested in mock drafts, NBA highlights, and just about everything except how we can get back to getting guys who want to actually be here. Hell, right now there’s a 5 page thread on some half assed NBA player on RR.

We have numerous posters on here that continually tell us about mock drafts, guys getting drafted on potential, yadi yadi yadi...that’s just great. You know what? I don’t give a **** about any of that.

I’ll tell you this, if Cal has more than 2 guys leave, then you NBA lovers on here might want to become full time NBA fans for good next season, because we’ll be even worse than we are this season.

Like you, i don't give a crap about the draft or the NBA. I am a UK fan, could care less about the NBA, or star rankings on recruits we get. If we get top ranked guys and they help us win games with a shot at a title, and then move on, fine. I am ok with that, but these mediocre guys leaving early while we lose decent guys to transfer, is becoming more than I want to swallow.

 

[BlueRunner11]

I am going to disagree with you for this reason. Last year, I was worried that if Diallo joined the team and played mid season, it might hurt team chemistry, and rotation patterns. I still believe that would have happened. We came within a last second shot and some bad calls from going to a FF. I think had Diallo had played, we would not have got that far, we will never know, but that was my gut feeling.

No way to know either way. Team chemistry with guys that have been together roughly a few months prior is overrated imo. Most of these guys have spent their whole life playing against each other, switching schools, AAU teams, summer and travel teams, etc. Plus we were a mess at the 3 spot. Its not like he was taking Fox or Monks minutes.

 

[richbrookstomato]

I LOVE Cal and want him here for as long as he wants to be here.

However, I can't see ANY benefit to UK Basketball when kids come in with a predetermined time table on their departure, NBA or not.

When kids like Dakari, Briscoe and Humphries come in and are hell bent on leaving whether we win or not or whether they get better or not is my ONLY gripe with Cal's philosophy.

I realize Cal has very little control over who stays and who leaves, but it's just mind boggling how most of our players are bent on leaving as soon as they get here.

This next recruiting class has the type of players that we can build the program back up with. 3/4 year kids that will be able to provide some much needed leadership. However, if they are also hell bent on leaving UK ASAP, we will be in the same shape as this season.

Hope Cal can figure it out, I'm SURE he will give it his all trying.

 

[Poetax]

Im on board with all that you said except one thing. I believe he couldve contributed last year in a limited role. We play 99% man to man and Cals offense is not rocket science. Conditioning wise, he was at worst as ready as Vanderbilt was when he returned. Several reports were he was one of the best players in practice (I know, I know). A limited role of an energy guy wouldve been more than doable and not only helped him this year, but the team last year. Specifically, the games Fox was injured and games we were in foul trouble (UNC).

Maybe Im selfish, Im all for players first as long as the team is thriving. But when its not, its a harder pill to swallow.

Ill let it die now.

Not to harp on the kid but those who said all of those wonderful things about him in practice last year, didn’t know basketball talent. Gifted athletically yes big time but all of our guards last year probably didn’t need a chemistry change late in the season when we were undoubtly playing our best ball.

 

[CatColumbia]

I'm sure Diallo is a good kid. He's just not as good a basketball player as he thinks he is.

This is 100% right. To his credit, he's one of the few lately that chose us over Duke.

 

[Poetax]

I'm sure Diallo is a good kid. He's just not as good a basketball player as he thinks he is.

If the kid ever gets his game to match his natural athletic ability he could be something special.

 

[JC CATS]

Dont care for him. Won't be sad when he is gone...hopefully soon.


edit: This is the first player, I have ever felt this way about.

Daniel Orton?

 

[brianpoe]

Im on board with all that you said except one thing. I believe he couldve contributed last year in a limited role. We play 99% man to man and Cals offense is not rocket science. Conditioning wise, he was at worst as ready as Vanderbilt was when he returned. Several reports were he was one of the best players in practice (I know, I know). A limited role of an energy guy wouldve been more than doable and not only helped him this year, but the team last year. Specifically, the games Fox was injured and games we were in foul trouble (UNC).

Maybe Im selfish, Im all for players first as long as the team is thriving. But when its not, its a harder pill to swallow.

Ill let it die now.

I dont think anyone would argue anything you have been saying.

Except that wasn't the deal he made with Cal. If fans dont like the deal, then it should be directed at Cal not the kid. We all would try and sneak in for guaranteed millions if we could.

 

[bwls2]

You are a clown. You come run your mouth on the politics thread and embarrass yourself and then claim any conservative viewpoint from a fan keeps black players from coming here?

You are the worst on this forum.

Do my views get under your skin, honeybunch?

The thing is - I have no problems with people based on their political views. If that's all the "POLITICAL THREAD" was actually about, no sensible person could have a problem with it.

But saying "blacks" are "lazy"...blind hate towards all Muslims...taking a dump on anyone who lives in America but their primary language isn't English...

That's not politics. That's just ignorance and hate speech. And you don't think other coaches are showing that thread to players? I know for a *fact* that they are, buddy.

Vote red all you want. Talk about how awesome you think Trump is. But somehow race/ethnicity/religion is brought up daily in that thread. None of it is flattering, especially when it's on a UK message board.

 

[Poetax]

Do my views get under your skin, honeybunch?

The thing is - I have no problems with people based on their political views. If that's all the "POLITICAL THREAD" was actually about, no sensible person could have a problem with it.

But saying "blacks" are "lazy"...blind hate towards all Muslims...taking a dump on anyone who lives in America but their primary language isn't English...

That's not politics. That's just ignorance and hate speech. And you don't think other coaches are showing that thread to players? I know for a *fact* that they are, buddy.

Vote red all you want. Talk about how awesome you think Trump is. But somehow race/ethnicity/religion is brought up daily in that thread. None of it is flattering, especially when it's on a UK message board.

Well don't be like him and group all republicans in the hate category, most liberals I know HATE everybody that breathes.

 

[BoulderCat_rivals187983]

Just my humble opinion of course. Diallo is the cancer which has killed this team.