Derrick Randall

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I personally know two players who I trust and who were on Rice's teams. It's true that Rice should not of done much of what he did and I'm glad he's gone but so much of this is overbown garbage.

I particularly like this one...
"Coach Rice frequently engaged in mind games with Derrick, such as asking him if he was ready to go into a game and on receiving an affirmative answer, leaving Derrick on the bench without any explanation," the lawsuit stated. "On several occasions, Coach Rice stared directly at Derrick with an unmistakable look of hatred."

LMAO...what a big baby.
This sounds like someone that may never be able to face adulthood and the realities of the world. Seems like nothing more than a money grab for someone who will have no professional basketball career and was probably not really effected at all by Mike Rice.
 

higgins3

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Coaching has changed. No longer should you feel scared of your coach, or should a coach ever put his hands on the players. I fully agree with the change.

If you recruit and coach the right way, you will not have to motivate kids all the time, and you certainly will not have to put a hand on them. Recruit a kid that can play well, has a good support system, and who values an Education. You will spend your practices passing the ball, not throwing it at your kids.

If you are the kind of coach t hat says "This player is just okay now, but maybe I can teach him to be a madman in the paint, toughen him up, make sure he gets so much more physical" you are wasting a recruit.

Derrick Randel averaged close to nothing in college in terms of stats. Why was he even brought here?
 

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This sounds like someone that may never be able to face adulthood and the realities of the world. . . . .

And it continues. Silly opinions for which nobody has any foundation. It's amazing what people will say for the silliest reasons, like you root for a particular basketball team.
 
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And it continues. Silly opinions for which nobody has any foundation. It's amazing what people will say for the silliest reasons, like you root for a particular basketball team.
So what would you call someone who claimed to be emotionally scarred by someone who was effectively their boss for looking at them a certain way or not putting them into a game after asking if they were ready? Then suing about it?!? Does that sound like someone you want to hire or work?
 
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Now if you look at someone you can be sued? Boy I bet Tennessee and Pat Summit are glad that none of her players sued them for staring.
 

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And it continues. Silly opinions for which nobody has any foundation. It's amazing what people will say for the silliest reasons, like you root for a particular basketball team.


why is it silly for him to say. its pretty convenient to Randall to use Rice as an excuse for his own failures

Randall could have transferred after one year of Rice but didnt...he could have transferred after his 2nd year of Rice but didnt....Rice was fired in April, I believe Randall was still with RU at that point and had not made any indication of transferring. So it was so bad that he stayed two years and was coming back for a third...sounds silly doesnt it
 

Mr. Magoo1

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why is it silly for him to say. its pretty convenient to Randall to use Rice as an excuse for his own failures

Randall could have transferred after one year of Rice but didnt...he could have transferred after his 2nd year of Rice but didnt....Rice was fired in April, I believe Randall was still with RU at that point and had not made any indication of transferring. So it was so bad that he stayed two years and was coming back for a third...sounds silly doesnt it

Yup. Doesn't sound like 300k worth of emotional abuse to me...the money grab is just the same old entitled garbage that has become the norm.

Here's an idea....Maybe become a better player and the coach won't look at you funny.
 
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I believe that I read a story in the past that it was Randall's father that pushed for the lawsuit in order to create a future financial nest egg for his LD son. So it may not be the kid that we should be directing our comments to, but to the father instead. If true that's a nice message for a parent to send to his son, not.

That may be the logical conclusion here because many times it's the helicopter parents that pull the strings on their children's lives.
 

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$300K settlement realistically means RU believed it had exposure way above that amount and didn't want to chance it pure and simple. It's called Litigation Risk Analysis.
 

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Eric Murdock is the heavy here--by shooting snippets, he makes it seem as though Rice did this stuff incessantly, making it look far worse than it was. And then having a lawyer tell RU Murdock would "settle" for 950K from RU. That got him an FBI investigation which may have ended, but you never know--they like to play things out until the statute of limitations looms. Meanwhile, Murdock isn't doing much basketball-wise, except going to his son's games. Why tape that stuff unless you have monetary gain in mind? He was DOBO, right, so he had no business taping--how did Rice never see it?
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MADHAT1

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$300K settlement realistically means RU believed it had exposure way above that amount and didn't want to chance it pure and simple. It's called Litigation Risk Analysis.
Not disagreeing one bit.
Sometimes it's the insurance company that feels it will have put out more in lawyer fees to keep fighting paying the amount being demanded and that could be why Rutgers negotiated the settlement payout.
I'm sure Rutgers didn't pay the 300,000 , but likely took a big hit on the what they are being charged for insurance after paying out for Rice's actions.
 

ColonelRutgers

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Eric Murdock is the heavy here--by shooting snippets, he makes it seem as though Rice did this stuff incessantly, making it look far worse than it was. And then having a lawyer tell RU Murdock would "settle" for 950K from RU. That got him an FBI investigation which may have ended, but you never know--they like to play things out until the statute of limitations looms. Meanwhile, Murdock isn't doing much basketball-wise, except going to his son's games. Why tape that stuff unless you have monetary gain in mind? He was DOBO, right, so he had no business taping--how did Rice never see it?
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Murdock didn't tape it - his lawyers asked for practice tapes, knowing that the coaching staff tapes all practices. The Rutgers Video Coordinator (Randall's Life Coach!) had to package them up and send them to Murdock's lawyer for review and Murdock's lawyers edited it into a Greatest Hits package.
 
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