I'm surprised he wasn't charges with DUI to be honest. Unless someone else was driving and left him there, the logical conclusion is that he was driving drunk, got out of the car and passed out. That would be much more serious.
Derek Willis arrested?
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Gotta love the spelling nazi...there's at least one in every crowd. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: I take it you're from Bullittt County. Actually, this could apply to any county in the state but because Derek is from Bullitt County, it's so Bullitt County. Lighten up a little Francis, me thinks your doing a little to much reading into comments! :sunglasses::cheers2:
If you pull it up online, it was a residential street.
So I wonder if he was partying on that street, or if he pulled off the road and ended up there.
The important thing here is to make snap judgments with no room for nuance or additional information.
Hopefully, this all gets worked out and Willis learns a valuable lesson from it. But, it's a little concerning. A lot of posts have correctly pointed out that it's not unusual for a college student to drink too much, but this seems like it was way too much. It is extremely unhealthy to drink to the point that you would pass out on a street and not even know the name of the town you are in. I hope he gets past all of this, and puts it behind him.
It's lame that the deputy is making it out to be a big deal that Willis could only say "northern Kentucky" when asked where he was. I go to Cincinnati frequently, and I don't know the boundaries of Florence, Ft. Mitchell, Union, and Covington. All the cities up there run together. I consider everything north of the I-75 and I-71 merger to be one big suburb of Cincinnati. For Willis to have said northern Kentucky was accurate, and I wouldn't expect a more specific answer from someone not from the area. I'm not trying to excuse Willis's behavior, but the "northern Kentucky" emphasis by the deputy is silly.
When I was 21 it was a sac of dro and some coke.
Seriously.
Always looked down at alcoholics back then.
Seriously.
Always looked down at alcoholics back then.
I maybe splitting hairs here, but it said the "drivers side door". Was it a four door car?
I've done much worst than this as I once woke up in a ICA isle. I didn't get woke up, but I was there long enough to nap and get up on my own and walk home. Then again, I wasn't a local celebrity.
We don't have as much police presence and people meddling/caring as much.
I've done much worst than this as I once woke up in a ICA isle. I didn't get woke up, but I was there long enough to nap and get up on my own and walk home. Then again, I wasn't a local celebrity.
We don't have as much police presence and people meddling/caring as much.
I remember this funny story about George Jones years ago where some members of his family hid his car keys so ole George just got on his lawn mower to drive to some little store nearby and was stopped by some cop and was arrested and charged with a DWI.
A few years ago a fellow from my area got a DUI on a horse...
"Whiskey for my men, beer for my horses." [cheers]
Good point.
It seemed like 1/4 of the kids I went to UK with claimed to be from Cincinnati when they actually lived in "Northern Kentucky."
I amend my previous statement. Even if he wasn't charged with DUI, it's pretty obvious he was behind the wheel while drunk off his ***. He got lucky that he wasn't asleep in the driver's side... hell for all we know the cop was a UK fan and wrote it up that way because he had to do something.
Suspension for as long as Cal wants, full out Jorts "run at 6 am" routine with a zero tolerance for lateness, and an ankle bracelet monitoring his BAC. Is it unfair to do that for a kid who's nearly 21? Probably. But if he wants to prove he can be mature and responsible, you either do it or you're off the team.
Suspension for as long as Cal wants, full out Jorts "run at 6 am" routine with a zero tolerance for lateness, and an ankle bracelet monitoring his BAC. Is it unfair to do that for a kid who's nearly 21? Probably. But if he wants to prove he can be mature and responsible, you either do it or you're off the team.
And did you get prosecuted for being the fuddy duddy who never drank? Surely there must be a 'Not Drunk But Unpopular' charge they can file against you. [winking]
Boone County? What what he doing up there, I wonder? Took a trip to see the 'Florence Y'all' water tank? Those cops are the worst. Lucky they didn't beat the hell out him while he was on the ground.
remind me to keep my kids as far from you as possible.
and
[eyeroll] on that last part.
Being 21 has no special meaning here. Had DW happen to kill someones relative on this board before he passed out, I'm sure it would all be just "kids having fun at college".
I don't care about him drinking (even though id suggest against it in his position) but the chance he was driving while drunk make it extremely serious.
Totally agreed. I just anticipated someone being like "once he's 21 he should be allowed to drink responsibly he's a college student they drink etc etc" but I think he's thrown out his chance to have a big dumb 21st like everyone else, and needs to show some responsibility to earn the privilege of being on this team.
Why in the hell does everyone talk trash about the cop here? I'm so sick of this crap. The cop did his job. I know if it were me I would have done the same. He probably called an ambulance crew to check him out and Derek refused medical treatment. What's the cop gonna do, leave him passed out in the street?
As far as the cop writing things to make his report sound good. You are an idiot. You have to write the offense to mirror as the statute is written. Otherwise you have no reason to arrest anyone and it will be thrown out.
Derek could have been arrested for DUI. And if he were anyone else other than a UK basketball player he prolly would have been.
So the ones of you blaming the cop should prolly let that one go. Yes it was a mistake. No it's not the end of the world. Yes cal will make him pay for it.
I think that covers every discussion in here.
As far as the cop writing things to make his report sound good. You are an idiot. You have to write the offense to mirror as the statute is written. Otherwise you have no reason to arrest anyone and it will be thrown out.
Derek could have been arrested for DUI. And if he were anyone else other than a UK basketball player he prolly would have been.
So the ones of you blaming the cop should prolly let that one go. Yes it was a mistake. No it's not the end of the world. Yes cal will make him pay for it.
I think that covers every discussion in here.
Because the cool thing right now is hating on cops. It's also been made political by a certain group.
If most police weren't so ethical they'd have already gone on strike so the people could see exactly what anarchy looks like. Someone kicking in your door? Nope, no help. Figure it out.
Do you know what the triple D (DDD) stands for? If so, your response in stupid; if not, then your it is ignorant and it is usually best not to comment if you don't understand.
DDD= designated drunk driver...we would have the hometown boy be that guy; he would know the backroads and where the cops would not be...this was back in the 80's.
we were very young and very stupid...thank God, no one was ever hurt
This is nothing like shooting a unarmed man/woman. People aren't making it "cool" people have been pointing out "obvious" abuse of power by police, big difference. This wasn't a abuse of power, the cop did his job the way he was supposed to do it. Wllis is actually lucky he didn't tack on DUI which he could have easily done. Some fans kill me how they feel a different set of laws should be used for their favorite team/players. It's the same on every site. When a kid messes up there are some fans that will always say it's not a big deal but if it happens to a rival team/player then the kid should be put out of school and the school should get the death penalty
I like your post...but you are the same who jumped me a couple of weeks ago for having a strong opinion...
Don't even remember what it was. Anyway, if it bothers you, feel free to block me. Nothing I say is really that important in the grand scheme of things.
We're not the ones that will be ultimately sitting in judgement...this man will weigh the evidence and deal with it appropriately.
Some cops mess up and it's fine to point that out. Just make sure you also point out that cops also get gunned down by religious zealots, bigots, and loonies. In some groups killing a cop is a badge of honor.
An article with further details about the arrest and discussion about DUI
http://www.wdrb.com/story/32218732/...old-police-she-had-no-idea-how-they-got-there
http://www.wdrb.com/story/32218732/...old-police-she-had-no-idea-how-they-got-there
“My first thought when I read about it, was ‘Why didn’t they charge him with DUI?'” said Louisville attorney Paul Gold, who is well-known for handling drunken driving cases. “We have someone sleeping on the road outside the car.”
Defends drunken drivers for a living.
Wants UK player to be charged with DUI.
LOL
Still, this doesn't look good. Both of them passed outside of the car with no recollection of how they got there? Being completely unbiased, you almost have to charge him with a DUI at this point.
Edit: Maybe not. I guess precedent generally states that if they can't prove WHO drove the vehicle, DUI's are not usually given.
I'd say it seems pretty obvious WiIlis was driving. I can't and hope, he's not dumb enough to change seats with the girl if she was in fact driving, in an effort to protect her. If anything, the other way around. But she was on the passenger side. But if the state normally stays away from handing out DUI's if they can't prove who drove, then the same should apply here, Kentucky player or not.
Edit: Maybe not. I guess precedent generally states that if they can't prove WHO drove the vehicle, DUI's are not usually given.
I'd say it seems pretty obvious WiIlis was driving. I can't and hope, he's not dumb enough to change seats with the girl if she was in fact driving, in an effort to protect her. If anything, the other way around. But she was on the passenger side. But if the state normally stays away from handing out DUI's if they can't prove who drove, then the same should apply here, Kentucky player or not.
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In Zipps case being found passed out in the Castro District with his pants around his ankles would be considered "casual drinking"
In Zipps case being found passed out in the Castro District with his pants around his ankles would be considered "casual drinking"
What UL board? The Rivals board posters seemed pretty supportive of him the last time I read it.
I would guess he was driving but you can't prove that in the court of law. Hence no DUI charge.