My sources say our sources just aren’t very good sources.
Deandre Williams
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You should start a podcast.
Agree, and I think he's a perfect fit for what Cal wants to do.
I just don't see how it makes sense for him. He's 23 already and looking to get to the NBA asap. Waiting a year for a featured role here when there are up tempo systems that love to feature transfers too doesn't add up.
But we've seen enough guys make idiotic choices over the years by picking other schools that I figure I'll still allow him to play here if he wants.
Seems flexible enough between the 3 or 4 that he'd get plenty. He'll match up better with some opponents than others at each spot and is athletic enough to play when/if they go small without a 5.
For sure. I just think there is an easier path to 35 minutes a game at nearly every other school.
Makes great sense for us, less for him.
Only if I can drag your *** with me. Make you my co host. [laughing]
I know highlights can be deceiving, but I liked what I saw from Fletcher.
I don't know why you guys don't think he will get a ton of run here?
He is really, really good. Great size, athleticism, really good shooting, rebounding and passing. He averaged 3 assist per game last season. He could very well end up starting here and being a primary guy along with Boston and Clarke.
Also, Baylor has several forwards returning, and 1 4* 6'9 guy coming in and a 7 footer. Not like Baylor just has a wide open roster. In fact, they may have to take a scholarship away from someone to get 1 for Williams. They lost 3 Seniors, but they have 3 freshman coming in. They have 2 other players who have declared for the draft but left the option to return open.
He is really, really good. Great size, athleticism, really good shooting, rebounding and passing. He averaged 3 assist per game last season. He could very well end up starting here and being a primary guy along with Boston and Clarke.
Also, Baylor has several forwards returning, and 1 4* 6'9 guy coming in and a 7 footer. Not like Baylor just has a wide open roster. In fact, they may have to take a scholarship away from someone to get 1 for Williams. They lost 3 Seniors, but they have 3 freshman coming in. They have 2 other players who have declared for the draft but left the option to return open.
It depends on if what he says is true which is he wants to win a title and be on the biggest stage to prep and give him the most exposure possible. That would limit his pick to us and Baylor a little bit, but not nearly as much with Baylor as far as exposure and stage.
We got a chance here. No damaging direction of words in that interview. They basically going on what Williams wants. And clear air with all parties. Its moving pretty fast here. I think he is atleast almost ours. Few more days. We will kno. We got a nice team guys. If we miss here. There will be somebody else Cal finds. Im sure. But we want this guy. We will have alot of skilled depth.
There has been no talk of Arkansas and Memphis. I don't even think Memphis is supposed to be good and they are never on TV. Arkansas will be so-so. They only get more than SEC network when they play us. Just not seeing either of those. His coach also mentioned he wouldn't just cut the list to just 2 schools, which is kind of a random thing to say unless you know he is really only thinking about 2. I think it's between UK and Baylor. Baylor being the home school and UK the glamorous school. I do wonder if the mothers day announcement is part of a homecoming plan.
If it wasn't for his relationship with Brooks, it might make less sense. There are def easier paths to minutes, but I think this kid doesn't have that fear of a challenge
Yeah, it's us and Baylor. I'm not too worried about the Mother's Day thing since they said it would be Sunday or Monday. I almost feel like it's UK spreading it out a week from Sarr's. Brooks Sr. and the past relationship between Brooks and Williams it feels like Uk to me.
I hope you're right. Those kids have been rare. But he may be one of them.
We don't blow many people out anymore. The best players have to eventually play, even if it's not game one. His experience and talent, you know he would probably be on the floor a big part of the time. When it comes to pampering over getting a guy to the pro's or winning a championship, you know which one eventually wins out.
Baylor being the home school and UK the glamorous school. I do wonder if the mothers day announcement is part of a homecoming plan.
I figured Baylor to be the toughest competition if not the slight favorite but looking closer they are deep. If he goes there it’s not because he’ll get to name his own PT.
I figured Baylor to be the toughest competition if not the slight favorite but looking closer they are deep. If he goes there it’s not because he’ll get to name his own PT.
Would he have the luxary to practice and play with pro's at Baylor like he would here? That has a lot to do in being ready day 1 at the next level. I don't know their roster, how does it compare to ours?
He’d be good depth and a potential starter. Wouldn’t expect much more since what he did was at Evansville. I still think one of the freshman is the backup center. He’d be a combo forward here. That’s the thing you’d have to sell him on. Come here to develop perimeter skills and we’ll let you show off.
You meant DA/Mercer, right? I can't think of an AD on that team.
Yes, DA, of course. My bad. That’s the second or third time I’ve done that. Damn. [laughing]
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He's still around, on one of his usernames.
Because Cal likes to have a short rotation/roster knowing full well nobody ever gets injured or transfers
A. It sounds like Anselem doesn't want to come
B. Cal likes to have a scholarship open in case someone reclassifies or even decides to transfer in the coming months.
Just know it's either today or tomorrow so far. His former coach and mentor said he prefered doing it today.
If it makes anyone feel better, this is the writer for the Memphis Rivals site who has been covering Williams’ recruitment.
It’s a couple days old, but at least we haven’t heard anything else since then to suggest he may go elsewhere. We’ll see what happens.
It’s a couple days old, but at least we haven’t heard anything else since then to suggest he may go elsewhere. We’ll see what happens.
I’ve felt like he has been Kentucky bound the whole time. If anyone can make it work, it would be Cal.
What concerns me is his circle is attempting to pressure him into another program. Far too often we’ve gone through this exact scenario and lost a recruit who wanted to attend Kentucky because guardians/handlers wanted different; this never ends well for us.
Even Williams should know there are not players or coaches anywhere else like here. He has to know we win the majority of our games and always in the hunt for a deep run. He should know the success of the players from here in the pro's are much greater than other places. Hope he has the maturity and confidence to tell others, 'this is where I am going.' If a 'handler' is pushing a coach or place because of what they want or what they think they are looking out for their best interests. This is a no brainer with who our competition is. If he is looking to be the best prepared for a pro career and likes winning everybody knows the answer without even pondering. If there is pondering from a handler they would have to be naive on college basketball or they are worrying about what they want and not what is best. That is the bottom line. He would get plenty of minutes here with the way we play and who we play.
Williams isn’t committing to a school to sit, he’s going to want to play a lot considering it’s his last go around. But like others have said, if anyone can make it work it would be Cal.
I look at it this way, if we sign Williams, then great, we hopefully have another piece to a championship puzzle (if granted a waiver).
If we don’t get him, we have an extra scholarship to use on someone else, hopefully someone with no eligibility questions.
Right now, if Williams comes along with Sarr, we might not have either player and be down to 9 guys. I don’t want to be short handed again.
So I am fine either way.
But if we sign Williams, Cal needs to use that last scholarship on another body that is good to go, with no question marks.
We have to have more depth.
If we don’t get him, we have an extra scholarship to use on someone else, hopefully someone with no eligibility questions.
Right now, if Williams comes along with Sarr, we might not have either player and be down to 9 guys. I don’t want to be short handed again.
So I am fine either way.
But if we sign Williams, Cal needs to use that last scholarship on another body that is good to go, with no question marks.
We have to have more depth.
Despite his age, I’m pretty sure he still has two years.
That's true in some cases. We were fortunate in some others cases where kids convinced their parents/circles of influenced UK was the right choice - Harrison twins, Keldon Johnson, Nerlens Noel, John Wall (Clifton), etc.
Dyslexics of the world untie! I do it all the time. Fingers seem to fire on their own.
Kansas had two 4-star recruits, #53 and #94, a SF and a PG, completely sit out last year as redshirts. They also had the #64 player play limited minutes. All 3 are back this year despite Kansas recruiting a 5-star guard, a top Juco SF, and returning McCormack, Agbaji, and De Sousa to compete in the frontcourt.
We shouldn't be worried about Ware (#35 nationally) and Fletcher (#59) getting shafted on playing time due to signing Williams, as the other teams don't. Williams could give us a couple years like Camron Johnson gave UNC. UNC didn't worry about how signing Johnson would affect Theo Pinson and Brandon Robinson.
These players came here to play without a doubt, but if they aren't good enough to outplay a 24-year old Evansville transfer, then they should work on improving to compete with next years' 5-star freshmen that Calipari will be bringing in (Banchero, Huntley-Hatfield, etc) To be the guy that takes the next crop of players' playing time.
We shouldn't be worried about Ware (#35 nationally) and Fletcher (#59) getting shafted on playing time due to signing Williams, as the other teams don't. Williams could give us a couple years like Camron Johnson gave UNC. UNC didn't worry about how signing Johnson would affect Theo Pinson and Brandon Robinson.
These players came here to play without a doubt, but if they aren't good enough to outplay a 24-year old Evansville transfer, then they should work on improving to compete with next years' 5-star freshmen that Calipari will be bringing in (Banchero, Huntley-Hatfield, etc) To be the guy that takes the next crop of players' playing time.
Everyone keeps bringing up Williams as offering something our other recruits don't have, which is outside shooting in the frontcourt, but Williams shot just 33 3-pointers last year in 18 games. That 1.8 3PA per game is the same as what Reid Travis averaged in his last year at Stanford and Patterson averaged in 2010. Williams is a good player of course and shot 45%, but expecting him to be someone to gameplan around is mistaken imo.
Anyone that believes we have sources on Raftards, you just keep doing you kid.
i agree. plus watching him shoot the ball, its painfully slow and awkward. it clearly works for him but i cant help but think that is in part because everyone in the mvc is 6'5" so he can get it off.