It's been said the staff is really high on Williams, and wants him badly. Regardless of what year or other players.
Deandre Williams
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I have seen some teams have 2-3 guys redshirt in the same year so I can't imagine that counts against your 13. Didn't FL have at least 2-3 guys sit out a year ago?
I’m fairly certain his ship sailed once we got Sarr but I can only dream of this lineup.
Clark 6’7
Boston 6’7
Williams 6’9
Brooks 6’8
Sarr 7’
Slide Ware or Jackson in and out as well with Askew and Mintz. Then we still have Allen, curious to see how good he is after that long of a layoff from the court.
My money is on an Anselem commitment within the next week. Don’t mind being wrong though if Williams surprises me.
Clark 6’7
Boston 6’7
Williams 6’9
Brooks 6’8
Sarr 7’
Slide Ware or Jackson in and out as well with Askew and Mintz. Then we still have Allen, curious to see how good he is after that long of a layoff from the court.
My money is on an Anselem commitment within the next week. Don’t mind being wrong though if Williams surprises me.
Well, actually he isn't really a redshirt he's a sit-out transfer. So does that count against the schools total the year he sits out? Like with Hauser at Mich St last year? Because some teams have 3+ guys transfer in that have to sit out each year like TT. I don't see how they would have enough schollys to play if those count against the sit-out year.
I should not have labeled him a red shirt; but Ineligible transfers definitely tie up scholarships
Man, I don't see how some teams do what they do then. TT lives off transfers. So we have 11 guys for 2020 and 9 that can for sure play. That's why I really think Cal should try to add 2 more especially if one is the Frank kid that's 100+ because he isn't bringing much next year and if Sarr doesn't get freed we could still be screwed. If we are taking him I hope it's Williams too. Losing Sarr would still hurt extremely bad, but having at least one center in the Freshman and Williams who could play in small-ball would be better than what we have now for options.
I really wish the Sarr thing could be ruled on and done in the next 3-4 weeks so we don't get screwed. Or add a guy like Maker or Cisse if available so we have a top guy if we lose Sarr. Anyone know how long it takes to get a ruling from the NCAA on a case like Sarr's or will try drag this out until we can't replace him if he isn't given the go-ahead?
He has always operated this way early in the year he is going to give Whitney, Skal, Hami a longer leash because of their potential but as we get into January and February the rotation shortens and the play style turns to looking to get our most efficient scorers the ball. Next year if Boston or Clarke where to struggle early they will probably have a longer leash than anyone else on the team.
Everybody knows how difficult it is for us to get guys that can shoot the ball. This guy appears to be one of the best shooters in college basketball. We probably don't have anybody on the current roster that can out shoot him. He would help open up more space for the bigs and stretch the floor for his teammates. We won't have a Quickley this season but this guy could probably help ease that loss. I think we need him and think he would make us better. Outside shooting is the unknown left with the guys we will have.
So you think we should get Williams in case Sarr isn’t able to play immediately? You realize Williams has to get a waiver to be eligible immediately too right? I’m not following your logic.
Maybe, and I hope so.
I guess I'm just jaded. We've said for 10 years now how guys are better off to come here and practice against future NBA guys and develop under Cal and KP than to go somewhere else with guarnateed minutes. So many kids think they have to leave to get starters minutes or don't want the competition--even if it's better for their NBA prospects.
Maybe Williams is the rare exception.
It worked out pretty well in 2015, before Poythress went down. That team runs the table fairly easy if he doesn’t get injured IMO. Shuttling 5 in and out was one of that team’s biggest strengths. I guess it just all depends on your personnel.
Williams will probably have to sit out and then play the next two years. He is already better than Boston and Clarke and would be great if he could play next year but Cal has his 5 star pets and he will play them to make sure they get to the nba. If Williams could play next year we would be dynamite.
2 player out of 50 transferred up last year and averaged double digits. but i'm sure williams will be a beast....lmao
I think Williams has an even better shot at the waiver than does Sarr. Evansville, of course, had the head coaching change mid season. Not only that, but Williams missed half the season last year with an injury as well.
Williams is good, without a doubt. I don’t believe he’s better than Clarke and Boston now. He’s not better than them now, and probably will never be better than them. What’s your beef with these two guys? Earlier you stated one of them wouldn’t start. That’s just insane.
Plenty of room for Williams, as long as our 4-star forwards are willing to wait a year to play significant minutes.
Heck, even if they aren’t willing to wait, what can they do? They can wait or they can transfer.
I know we want them stay, but if they are impatient, so be it.
I really don’t miss Green, Baker, Whitney, or Juzang. I won’t miss any of those other guys who want instant gratification and aren’t willing to outwork somebody for their PT.
Heck, even if they aren’t willing to wait, what can they do? They can wait or they can transfer.
I know we want them stay, but if they are impatient, so be it.
I really don’t miss Green, Baker, Whitney, or Juzang. I won’t miss any of those other guys who want instant gratification and aren’t willing to outwork somebody for their PT.
That’s a pretty bold statement my man, if Williams is that good why doesn’t he just stay in the draft. I want him to come to UK but I would think he would challenge Brooks at the 4 spot!
Cow town no beef at all,but Williams is talented , experienced and bigger than those two freshmen that are unproven. I like the idea of size and experience and talent. The 2 freshmen will be fine.
You evidently don't know basketball.
I understand what you’re saying. I just think those two freshmen are special. Best wing duo since AD/Mercer IMO. I could be wrong, though. I have been before. Just ask my wife, she’ll tell ya. [laughing]
Williams will be a reserve for us if he comes here, IMHO.
I am expecting him to play about 20mpg as a reserve at the 3 and 4. That is assuming both Sarr and Williams get waivers.
I agree wholeheartedly, brother. Will make a fantastic sixth man. He’s extremely versatile.
Looks like UK is not landing Anselem now lol. Hoping for Williams. What are chances Williams gets a waiver? I’m not familiar with his situation.
You know I love ya BBD, but I gotta give that one a big old “NOPE”.
He’d be a great addition and probably a future pro. But Boston & Clarke will in all probability average as good or better at KENTUCKY as what he averaged at EVANSVILLE.
We have a killer 8-man rotation with Sarr and Williams eligible.
Good mix. Four experienced players (Brooks, Mintz, Sarr, Williams) and four very talented Freshmen (Clarke, Boston, Askew, and Jackson or Ware).
Hope it works out for us.
Don’t forget about Allen. Fletcher too. I know that makes ten, but still.
I don’t disagree. I was simply pointing out he was saying if Sarr isn’t going to be eligible he’d rather have Williams than Anselem. I was simply saying it makes no sense to get another guy who has to get a waiver as insurance for a guy who needs a waiver. Possibly not being cleared. I agree with your points.
We have a 9 man rotation regardless if Williams or Sarr are eligible.
Mintz
Clarke
Boston
Brooks
Jackson
Askew
Allen
Fletcher
Ware
And yes I realize you said Killer 8 man. Just saying Fletcher and Allen can give 8-10 quality minutes IMO.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Very good news as SDSU is a team who was in on Frank Anselem. Looks like it’s down to 4 with Syracuse, Hall, Arkansas, and WKU. <a href="https://t.co/7HYKUleAwa">https://t.co/7HYKUleAwa</a></p>— SHU MBB Coverage
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(@pirates_mbb) <a href="">May 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>Sounds like Williams is gonna be the guy! I’m sure that’s who Keion’s dad was referring too
It appears Anselem has indeed backed away a bit and is hesitant now that we have Sarr. Odd because it goes against what was reported right after the signing. Kentucky is all in on Williams so we shall see. Crazy how things change on a dime the past month. Let’s reel Williams in!
I think Anselems coaches are talking out the both sides of their mouths. First they say he’s a project and needs two or three years to develop, and then tell another sports writer that Frank isn’t coming if UK lands a big man<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Very good news as SDSU is a team who was in on Frank Anselem. Looks like it’s down to 4 with Syracuse, Hall, Arkansas, and WKU. <a href="https://t.co/7HYKUleAwa">https://t.co/7HYKUleAwa</a></p>— SHU MBB Coverage
Well how things change . 24 hours ago it sounded like we would close with Frank A but now it sounds like Frank doesn't want to redshirt as he would have to as he isn't playing over Jackson or Sarr at the 5 and Williams is close to committing to UK. His waiver isn't as cut and dry as Sarr's is but again if UK is offering they believe he will play next season as well.
Yep, don't understand the logic of those who seem to think Sarr will get a waive bu that Williams will not.
Oh I knew what you meant. I was just stating my opinion on the matter. No worries.
Now I think so . Man we are going to be insane next season. Will be interesting to see how Cal works the minutes at the 4 next season. The only down side to Williams coming as it is 2x the number of numskulls fretting over whether he will play next season or not . All you gotta do is read what Cal says once he signs.When Toppin signed it was all about him getting better and maybe sitting out next season. When Sarr did it was all about him being the missing piece this season and I suspect Williams will have the similar stuff said. Cal isn't bringing Sarr or Williams in for anything but 2020.