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dinglefritz

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You can "say" that about anybody before they play a down. We could've said that about Haarberg coming out by that logic. I think that's just posturing. Dayton COULD turn out to be a damn good QB. But if you are being honest you know he wasn't the "best" QB we could've signed. Again this is one where you can believe what u will.



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Actually I don’t know he’s not the best we could get. I’m not in Rhule’s war room. Maybe in fact with Dylan and Lateef on board Dayton IS in fact the best we can get.
 

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I'm not even saying Dayton doesnt deserve a scholarship. Let me be clear I'm perfectly fine with him getting a scholarship. I also think that his brother being a 5 star QB before him and his uncle the OL coach and his dad the former AA has something to do with it. You can choose to believe what you will. I also think that if it meant getting Dylan then offering and accepting a commit from Dayton was worth it.

Finally just because I'm ok with him getting the offer and commitment doesn't mean that I think he was the best QB that they could sign. Again you can believe what you will.

I think there were several reasons why he got his offer and his talent is definitely one of them as well. Does he look like a good hS prospect? Yes he does. Do I hope like he'll he is great? Absolutely. Do I think he was the best HS Qb we could've signed? No I don't.

Like You said more than one thing can be true.




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Let’s study the “ best we could’ve signed “ .are you implying that we had the opportunity to get a better one? As one example The Millard south QB ( Alabama) had zero interest to come to Nebraska so even though on paper he looks better than Dayton we couldn’t have signed him .
 

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Maybe it’s not his kid?
 

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Let’s study the “ best we could’ve signed “ .are you implying that we had the opportunity to get a better one? As one example The Millard south QB ( Alabama) had zero interest to come to Nebraska so even though on paper he looks better than Dayton we couldn’t have signed him .

Yes absolutely we could've signed someone who was deemed a better QB imo. The example of the Millard south QB is low hanging fruit. Go back and look at Dayton and how he was looked at when we offered. This isn't just a local QB going to Bama thing if that's what you are assuming. At least not with me . I can't speak for anyone else.



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Actually I don’t know he’s not the best we could get. I’m not in Rhule’s war room. Maybe in fact with Dylan and Lateef on board Dayton IS in fact the best we can get.

Well I'm not in his war room either but if you truly think he was the best QB we could've signed you aren't giving Rhule and company the credit they deserve. We can agree to disagree of course (publicly). But I'm sure deep down you know better....



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Have you seen some of the crap he posts? Husker QB's should kill themselves. Preacher Rhule is fat. Uncle Donnie sucks and is a nepo hire. Dayton sucks. Pedo Big 10 noise. Talks out of his a$$ personal stuff he thinks he knows about people on here? You reap what you sow. He's a douchebag. There is a reason the emotional nut job has been banned multiple times.
Awwwwwww so sensitive! The truth (nepo don, fat rhule, nepo Dayton, pedo b1g - all facts) really infuriates you!

you never told me your preferred pronouns. I want to be respectful when addressing you/they/them

are you bringing your wife and kids to Thailand with you when you retire?? Exciting if so!! (Also doubt it, you’re all alone after either never having them or driving them away)
 
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There is a difference between offers and signing someone.
Again I'm not talking about offers I'm talking about SIGNING. Do yourself a favor and go back and see where Dayton was ranked. Then go and look at the QBs our coach/OC etc have brought in since they have had a full year to recruit. It isnt rocket science. Once they got Dayton of course they weren't gonna bring anyone else in. Of course they DIDNT keep recruiting QBs with the same energy. It all goes hand in hand IMO (all of this is my opinion).


Once they got Dylan Dayton became a no Brainerd (imo). At this time he clearly wasn't some highly rated recruit that everyone wanted. He was an "ok" prospect. A mid to low 3 star type QB. Nobody was beating his door down. Had he even started in HS yet? Seriously you guys can't be this gullible. If Dayton isn't who he is (Dylan bro, Donnie nephew, Dominic son) there is no way we offer him and accept his commitment. Especially as early as they did.

This in turns stops the coaches from attempting to sign another (better) QB. So like I said you guys can believe what you will. Just looking at history it just doesnt happen. Think of what a lot of even our instate kids go thru to get offers. But that one goes out early...cmon.

As I said before all things considered I understand and am ok with it. For me getting Dylan was worth it. But you guys acting like this kid was some really good QB who we would be hard pressed to do better than are sipping the kool ade a bit too much.

Now I hope he becomes all state and wins a Heisman at Nebraska. But that won't change how his recruitment played out. Wish him and us the best. He's a Husker and that's that.



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Again I'm not talking about offers I'm talking about SIGNING. Do yourself a favor and go back and see where Dayton was ranked. Then go and look at the QBs our coach/OC etc have brought in since they have had a full year to recruit. It isnt rocket science. Once they got Dayton of course they weren't gonna bring anyone else in. Of course they DIDNT keep recruiting QBs with the same energy. It all goes hand in hand IMO (all of this is my opinion).


Once they got Dylan Dayton became a no Brainerd (imo). At this time he clearly wasn't some highly rated recruit that everyone wanted. He was an "ok" prospect. A mid to low 3 star type QB. Nobody was beating his door down. Had he even started in HS yet? Seriously you guys can't be this gullible. If Dayton isn't who he is (Dylan bro, Donnie nephew, Dominic son) there is no way we offer him and accept his commitment. Especially as early as they did.

This in turns stops the coaches from attempting to sign another (better) QB. So like I said you guys can believe what you will. Just looking at history it just doesnt happen. Think of what a lot of even our instate kids go thru to get offers. But that one goes out early...cmon.

As I said before all things considered I understand and am ok with it. For me getting Dylan was worth it. But you guys acting like this kid was some really good QB who we would be hard pressed to do better than are sipping the kool ade a bit too much.

Now I hope he becomes all state and wins a Heisman at Nebraska. But that won't change how his recruitment played out. Wish him and us the best. He's a Husker and that's that.



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A lot of assumptions in this post. Having TJ then Trae in 27. This worked out perfectly. And you don’t know if they would have gotten someone more coveted. You can tell you just pay attention to stars. Dayton is now balling out at a very good highschool and showing a great arm with better mobility than DR.
 

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A lot of assumptions in this post. Having TJ then Trae in 27. This worked out perfectly. And you don’t know if they would have gotten someone more coveted. You can tell you just pay attention to stars. Dayton is now balling out at a very good highschool and showing a great arm with better mobility than DR.

Bruh you have no clue what I pay attention to. Just because I mentioned a star rating doesn't mean it's the end all be all. I've NEVER been that guy. But if it helps your case feel free to believe it.

I see how he's doing right now and that's great for Nebraska. If you think I'm gonna root against that kid because of his circumstances you are wrong. He's worked his *** off and appears to be improving. That still doesn't change how his recruitment went.


Curious what do you mean by "Having TJ and then Trae in 27 ,this worked out perfectly"

How so?




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Both things can be true. Dayton deserves a scholarship offer and the other QB competition proves to be too tough to beat out. In front of him, the team loves TJ and he's exceeding expectations so far. Behind him, Trae is everything you would want in a future QB recruit. Then there's always the chance that Dylan stays for his fourth year. More QBs are doing that these days.
Dayton clearly has the tools and resume to deserve a Husker offer. His high school performance and tools are probably more impressive than the high school résumés of the majority of QBs on NFL rosters today. Every day I read or hear of some QB i had never heard of from a no name school who is on an NFL roster. Our QB recruiting and coaching appears to have taken a leap forward since signing Dylan.
 

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Well I'm not in his war room either but if you truly think he was the best QB we could've signed you aren't giving Rhule and company the credit they deserve. We can agree to disagree of course (publicly). But I'm sure deep down you know better....



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How many 5 stars are going to come to NU with Dylan entrenched as the starter? When I say best we could sign, I’m talking about guys willing to come and sit. We’re not at the point of stockpiling 5 star QBs just yet. I think they’re very happy with Lateef and love lots of aspects of Dayton’s abilities including his football IQ. I’m not sure who people think we were going to get or who would have been a better college QB than Dayton.

IF we hadn’t signed Dylan and he was tearing it up at Georgia right now, I suspect the conversation about Dayton’s recruitment would be wildly different. Watching both Dylan and Dayton play in high school, the thing that sets them apart isn’t their arm strength or athleticism. For me, it’s their football IQ that goes with the whole package.

Yeah, I wish they ran a 4.5 with some wiggle but damn, have you really looked at how big Dylan is and Dayton is getting. We’re in row 16 in west stadium and seeing Dylan standing next to our TEs, it was obvious that Dylan is stouter than them. He’s a big dude. I’ll take a 240lb+ built like a fullback QB.
 

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Again I'm not talking about offers I'm talking about SIGNING. Do yourself a favor and go back and see where Dayton was ranked. Then go and look at the QBs our coach/OC etc have brought in since they have had a full year to recruit. It isnt rocket science. Once they got Dayton of course they weren't gonna bring anyone else in. Of course they DIDNT keep recruiting QBs with the same energy. It all goes hand in hand IMO (all of this is my opinion).


Once they got Dylan Dayton became a no Brainerd (imo). At this time he clearly wasn't some highly rated recruit that everyone wanted. He was an "ok" prospect. A mid to low 3 star type QB. Nobody was beating his door down. Had he even started in HS yet? Seriously you guys can't be this gullible. If Dayton isn't who he is (Dylan bro, Donnie nephew, Dominic son) there is no way we offer him and accept his commitment. Especially as early as they did.

This in turns stops the coaches from attempting to sign another (better) QB. So like I said you guys can believe what you will. Just looking at history it just doesnt happen. Think of what a lot of even our instate kids go thru to get offers. But that one goes out early...cmon.

As I said before all things considered I understand and am ok with it. For me getting Dylan was worth it. But you guys acting like this kid was some really good QB who we would be hard pressed to do better than are sipping the kool ade a bit too much.

Now I hope he becomes all state and wins a Heisman at Nebraska. But that won't change how his recruitment played out. Wish him and us the best. He's a Husker and that's that.



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One could make the argument that he would also be more highly recruited if he wasn't rock solid to NU. Looks like he's grown some over the last year. It's early but his completion % looks to be up. Clearly has a strong arm.
 

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One could make the argument that he would also be more highly recruited if he wasn't rock solid to NU. Looks like he's grown some over the last year. It's early but his completion % looks to be up. Clearly has a strong arm.
Since when has a verbal commitment kept teams at bay?
 
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Again I'm not talking about offers I'm talking about SIGNING. Do yourself a favor and go back and see where Dayton was ranked. Then go and look at the QBs our coach/OC etc have brought in since they have had a full year to recruit. It isnt rocket science. Once they got Dayton of course they weren't gonna bring anyone else in. Of course they DIDNT keep recruiting QBs with the same energy. It all goes hand in hand IMO (all of this is my opinion).


Once they got Dylan Dayton became a no Brainerd (imo). At this time he clearly wasn't some highly rated recruit that everyone wanted. He was an "ok" prospect. A mid to low 3 star type QB. Nobody was beating his door down. Had he even started in HS yet? Seriously you guys can't be this gullible. If Dayton isn't who he is (Dylan bro, Donnie nephew, Dominic son) there is no way we offer him and accept his commitment. Especially as early as they did.

This in turns stops the coaches from attempting to sign another (better) QB. So like I said you guys can believe what you will. Just looking at history it just doesnt happen. Think of what a lot of even our instate kids go thru to get offers. But that one goes out early...cmon.

As I said before all things considered I understand and am ok with it. For me getting Dylan was worth it. But you guys acting like this kid was some really good QB who we would be hard pressed to do better than are sipping the kool ade a bit too much.

Now I hope he becomes all state and wins a Heisman at Nebraska. But that won't change how his recruitment played out. Wish him and us the best. He's a Husker and that's that.



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This is correct. The offer to Dayton was a stretch at the time if you were only looking at Dayton himself and his measurables. It made more sense once you considered that it helped to solidify Dylan. We would not have offered him at that time without that connection.

Could we have gotten someone better instead? I feel like probably. Dayton has grown and is less of a stretch now than he was at the time offer. And in this case, I am not sure getting a somewhat better QB in the 2026 class would help the team. Dayton has the ability to keep Dylan here and not market himself for NIL offers. The QB room will be stable for several years because Dayton is a part of it, even if he’s only an average QB.

Dayton will get a legitimate chance to develop and compete for playing time. If he can beat out TJ and Trae, he will have earned it.
 

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Since when has a verbal commitment kept teams at bay?
Depends on the kid. We've had a couple local kids who committed early and shut down their recruitment. I think teams backed off those kids. DT from Omaha comes to mind, name escapes me. Great wrestler.
 

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This is correct. The offer to Dayton was a stretch at the time if you were only looking at Dayton himself and his measurables. It made more sense once you considered that it helped to solidify Dylan. We would not have offered him at that time without that connection.

Could we have gotten someone better instead? I feel like probably. Dayton has grown and is less of a stretch now than he was at the time offer. And in this case, I am not sure getting a somewhat better QB in the 2026 class would help the team. Dayton has the ability to keep Dylan here and not market himself for NIL offers. The QB room will be stable for several years because Dayton is a part of it, even if he’s only an average QB.

Dayton will get a legitimate chance to develop and compete for playing time. If he can beat out TJ and Trae, he will have earned it.
When you’re offering a 16-17 year old you HAVE to try to project what they’ll develop in to. We have the evidence with Dylan to make a reasonable projection of Dayton. Dayton is a high floor low risk kid that we would have been foolish to not offer.
 
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tyson terry?

torn ACL his senior year probably didn't help
If Tyson had ran his recruitment until the very end, he would have been getting more offers. The more camps you do, the higher your ranking. More offers you get, the higher your ranking.

Dragging out a recruitment absolutely would have led to a higher ranking for Dayton, IMO.
 

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If Tyson had ran his recruitment until the very end, he would have been getting more offers. The more camps you do, the higher your ranking. More offers you get, the higher your ranking.

Dragging out a recruitment absolutely would have led to a higher ranking for Dayton, IMO.
he had a torn ACL. he couldn't camp.
 
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One could make the argument that he would also be more highly recruited if he wasn't rock solid to NU. Looks like he's grown some over the last year. It's early but his completion % looks to be up. Clearly has a strong arm.

Yes you could make that argument. Guess it's just a matter of opinion. Outside of Nebraska who else had offered him? Does that even matter or no?



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How many 5 stars are going to come to NU with Dylan entrenched as the starter? When I say best we could sign, I’m talking about guys willing to come and sit. We’re not at the point of stockpiling 5 star QBs just yet. I think they’re very happy with Lateef and love lots of aspects of Dayton’s abilities including his football IQ. I’m not sure who people think we were going to get or who would have been a better college QB than Dayton.

IF we hadn’t signed Dylan and he was tearing it up at Georgia right now, I suspect the conversation about Dayton’s recruitment would be wildly different. Watching both Dylan and Dayton play in high school, the thing that sets them apart isn’t their arm strength or athleticism. For me, it’s their football IQ that goes with the whole package.

Yeah, I wish they ran a 4.5 with some wiggle but damn, have you really looked at how big Dylan is and Dayton is getting. We’re in row 16 in west stadium and seeing Dylan standing next to our TEs, it was obvious that Dylan is stouter than them. He’s a big dude. I’ll take a 240lb+ built like a fullback QB.

My expectations are probably just higher than yours when it comes to signing a QB at a place like Nebraska. When he was offered to Nebraska it was pretty clear that he wasn't! a "top level" QB..He was a part of a package deal that mutually helped both sides and I'm grateful for it. Some of us can't separate the two and that's fine too.

Whats really great is that Dayton has truly developed well and may actually be a QB who could some day help us . I don't see his as his brother, or a tJ, or a Trae but I think he may have a shot at being a solid QB one day. That's a plus.

Just fwiw I didn't say we had ro have a 5 star. Just a guy who was better, thought more of, more developed than a low 3 star guy. If Dayton had been from Pocatello Idaho with same measurements, rating and everything else and his last name was Westerfson some of guys defending him wouldn't be. It's no different for me. The fact that his 5 star big bro came is enough for me to be perfectly fine with it lol. Pretty simple for me...




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My expectations are probably just higher than yours when it comes to signing a QB at a place like Nebraska. When he was offered to Nebraska it was pretty clear that he wasn't! a "top level" QB..He was a part of a package deal that mutually helped both sides and I'm grateful for it. Some of us can't separate the two and that's fine too.

Whats really great is that Dayton has truly developed well and may actually be a QB who could some day help us . I don't see his as his brother, or a tJ, or a Trae but I think he may have a shot at being a solid QB one day. That's a plus.

Just fwiw I didn't say we had ro have a 5 star. Just a guy who was better, thought more of, more developed than a low 3 star guy. If Dayton had been from Pocatello Idaho with same measurements, rating and everything else and his last name was Westerfson some of guys defending him wouldn't be. It's no different for me. The fact that his 5 star big bro came is enough for me to be perfectly fine with it lol. Pretty simple for me...




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And my belief is that Rhule believed or projected Dayton would develop in to a legit P4 QB. I can’t say that I watched enough video of him OR other options to begin to criticize the offer. I did see a young growing kid with a good arm who appeared to make good decisions. I’m with you on liking higher athleticism in a college QB, but damn we’ve had a long string of athletic Qb’s plagued by inaccuracy and poor decisions.

In Dayton’s favor over the kid from Idaho, Dayton was good enough to be the starter at a top Georgia high school program AND his older brother exhibits the traits you want in college. Proof is in the genes.
 
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Yes you could make that argument. Guess it's just a matter of opinion. Outside of Nebraska who else had offered him? Does that even matter or no?



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No one. A couple FCS schools. He committed really early. At the time he committed i believe he was 5'10". Listed at 6'1" now. If instead of flying to work with personal qb coaches, he had flown around and done different college and rivals camps, I guarantee his rating would be better, and he would have more offers.

He doesn't have an offer from Akron. You’re telling me they wouldn't want him if he had gone to their camp last summer?
 
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No one. A couple FCS schools. He committed really early. At the time he committed i believe he was 5'10". Listed at 6'1" now. If instead of flying to work with personal qb coaches, he had flown around and done different college and rivals camps, I guarantee his rating would be better, and he would have more offers.

He doesn't have an offer from Akron. You’re telling me they wouldn't want him if he had gone to their camp last summer?

It's all conjecture. I can't tell you what Akron would've did. But I know enough to know if he wasnt who he is Nebraska wouldn't have offered him when they did. That's all I'm saying....
No one. A couple FCS schools. He committed really early. At the time he committed i believe he was 5'10". Listed at 6'1" now. If instead of flying to work with personal qb coaches, he had flown around and done different college and rivals camps, I guarantee his rating would be better, and he would have more offers.

He doesn't have an offer from Akron. You’re telling me they wouldn't want him if he had gone to their camp last summer?



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And my belief is that Rhule believed or projected Dayton would develop in to a legit P4 QB. I can’t say that I watched enough video of him OR other options to begin to criticize the offer. I did see a young growing kid with a good arm who appeared to make good decisions. I’m with you on liking higher athleticism in a college QB, but damn we’ve had a long string of athletic Qb’s plagued by inaccuracy and poor decisions.

In Dayton’s favor over the kid from Idaho, Dayton was good enough to be the starter at a top Georgia high school program AND his older brother exhibits the traits you want in college. Proof is in the genes.

I think I said it earlier in here somewhere. Imo it was a package deal that helped secure his brother. Also if we are saying he IS the kid from Idaho and his last name WASNT Raiola those genes you speak of aren't part of the equation. Plus if I'm NOT mistaken he wasn't even the starter yet in Buford before he received his offer...right?


SO again you telling me the kid who got that offer when he did and it DIDNT have anything to do with Dylan, Dom, or Donnie? He got that because they actually thought HE was the best QB they could get from the 26 class?

Cmon dude ...u know better.



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This is correct. The offer to Dayton was a stretch at the time if you were only looking at Dayton himself and his measurables. It made more sense once you considered that it helped to solidify Dylan. We would not have offered him at that time without that connection.

Could we have gotten someone better instead? I feel like probably. Dayton has grown and is less of a stretch now than he was at the time offer. And in this case, I am not sure getting a somewhat better QB in the 2026 class would help the team. Dayton has the ability to keep Dylan here and not market himself for NIL offers. The QB room will be stable for several years because Dayton is a part of it, even if he’s only an average QB.

Dayton will get a legitimate chance to develop and compete for playing time. If he can beat out TJ and Trae, he will have earned it.

I don't disagree with one thing you said. Especially the part about him getting better and likely healing his bro wanna stay here as long as possible.

I also agree he will get his chance to develop and if he beats out any of those guys he absolutely deserved it.

I'm not sure why some won't acknowledge the reality of it. It happens and it's ok if the main prize is worth it. There are tons of times that teams take brothers in order to get the one they truly wanted. This isn't foreign to recruiting. Not sure why some on this board chose to die on that hill. It happens and it did here AND I'm glad it did and I'm definitely OK with it. Let's go DYLAN and Dayton.



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Curious how he ended up named after a nice not spectacular midwestern city.

My oldest was conceived while camping at Arches NP. We did not name her Sandy, or Archie or …

(Hell, if anything we should have named her Shroomie. 😎)

But Dayton?
I camped there many moons ago
Great place. Windy at nite!😆😆
 
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I don't disagree with one thing you said. Especially the part about him getting better and likely healing his bro wanna stay here as long as possible.

I also agree he will get his chance to develop and if he beats out any of those guys he absolutely deserved it.

I'm not sure why some won't acknowledge the reality of it. It happens and it's ok if the main prize is worth it. There are tons of times that teams take brothers in order to get the one they truly wanted. This isn't foreign to recruiting. Not sure why some on this board chose to die on that hill. It happens and it did here AND I'm glad it did and I'm definitely OK with it. Let's go DYLAN and Dayton.



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I think you’re under estimating how coaches value a kid’s family in evaluating a recruit. Yeah maybe at that point he didn’t have anything more on video than multiple area QBs, but when he comes from the lineage he comes from, you don’t slow play him. They had seen him throw. They knew the kid well by the time they offered him. They expected him to grow and do nothing but get better and he has. There was virtually no risk in offering him.

At that point, maybe there appeared to be kids out there with higher upsides. Maybe not. We’re not the ones making the judgement. Dayton in one way was a victim of having to sit behind his older brother at Buford. Maybe he should have transferred so he could have started somewhere else as a Sophomore. Then we could all feel better about offering the son of a Husker All American, many year All Pro center who just happened to be the younger brother of one of the best QB recruits NU has ever landed.

The kid from Idaho you use as an example is not equal to Dylan’s baby brother even if the video is equal.
 
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I think you’re under estimating how coaches value a kid’s family in evaluating a recruit. Yeah maybe at that point he didn’t have anything more on video than multiple area QBs, but when he comes from the lineage he comes from, you don’t slow play him. They had seen him throw. They knew the kid well by the time they offered him. They expected him to grow and do nothing but get better and he has. There was virtually no risk in offering him.

At that point, maybe there appeared to be kids out there with higher upsides. Maybe not. We’re not the ones making the judgement. Dayton in one way was a victim of having to sit behind his older brother at Buford. Maybe he should have transferred so he could have started somewhere else as a Sophomore. Then we could all feel better about offering the son of a Husker All American, many year All Pro center who just happened to be the younger brother of one of the best QB recruits NU has ever landed.

The kid from Idaho you use as an example is not equal to Dylan’s baby brother even if the video is equal.

We disagree. That's pretty much it. All we agree on is let's hope Dayton is a damn good player. How he got here we will never agree on.




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