David Shaw?

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He has had about the same record the last 5 years as Frost. Plus me makes $9M/year.
 

leodisflowers

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I don't think his Scott Frost-esque record would excite our fan base

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I don’t disagree, but he was pretty damn good for awhile. Stanford doesn’t give two ***** about football either. I think he’s a damn good football coach. His record lately gives me pause, but who knows…
 

ckriley

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Aside from the fact he’s just another Frost, why would anyone leave Palo Alto to go to Lincoln?
 

thall_

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> look at coaches in a division that includes up and comers like DeBoer, Smith & Dickert
> sees guy who is 2-4 in talent rich area like California
> hasn't made a bowl game the last 6 years
> currently paid $9mil/year
> "hmm, why not hire this guy?"

walk us through how you got to this point, OP
 

leodisflowers

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> look at coaches in a division that includes up and comers like DeBoer, Smith & Dickert
> sees guy who is 2-4 in talent rich area like California
> hasn't made a bowl game the last 6 years
> currently paid $9mil/year
> "hmm, why not hire this guy?"

walk us through how you got to this point, OP

It's a message board and he was once the biggest name in football. You comparing him to Scott Frost is comical as I didn't know Scott went to multiple BCS games and had multiple conference championships and was the only one to be able to beat Oregon when they were rolling. Also, Stanford has ridiculous requirements and his recruiting is probably more difficult than most schools.

His W/L record has been **** lately, and that is a huge red flag, but I have thought for years that he needed a change of scenery and could be really good. To me, I feel like Trev is going to do something off the radar in some sort of fashion. I don't think he hires a Campbell, Leipold, Dickert, Klieman, etc. I am 100% just throwing **** out there, but I could see Trev doing the following:

Urban: Everyone thinks he won't do it. He may not want to do it, but that is a homerun hire and Urban would instantly turn it around. Not only is he one of the best recruiters of all time, he also would have a homerun staff and his knowledge X's and O's in the college game is elite.

Aranda: He is falling off in some capacity, but would probably have no issues with keeping Busch and Mickey. I think that is going to be a huge thing is how to keep those 2.

Mickey: Everyone knows the discussion here.

Off the Radar: Jeff Traylor, David Shaw or potentially someone else that no one is talking about. I may not agree, and it may not get the fanbase excited, but there are some other good coaches out there.
 

kmanrp

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Has the pedigree and might just need a change of scenery. Usually has some tough teams.
I brought up his name 2 days after Frosty got canned, and met the same resistance from others. There was a time Shaw was a very hot name in coaching.. and I like his toughness. I think he also needs to break this habit of hiring buddies for position coaches, vs. finding top-notch teachers to work with the kids. I dont understand the insecurity of head coaches needing to hire their pals.
 

steinek11

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In fairness, Mike Riley had a few tough teams back in the day too. Won bigly up in Canada from what I remember. Somehow was below average here though.
 

leodisflowers

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no he wasn't

no I didn't

ima stop you right there
Yes he was - Literally was the media darling and on everyone's hot board to see if they could take him. Good try
You are correct it was another post
Good for you... Like I said, it's a message board
 

Wasker77

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It's a message board and he was once the biggest name in football. You comparing him to Scott Frost is comical as I didn't know Scott went to multiple BCS games and had multiple conference championships and was the only one to be able to beat Oregon when they were rolling. Also, Stanford has ridiculous requirements and his recruiting is probably more difficult than most schools.

His W/L record has been **** lately, and that is a huge red flag, but I have thought for years that he needed a change of scenery and could be really good. To me, I feel like Trev is going to do something off the radar in some sort of fashion. I don't think he hires a Campbell, Leipold, Dickert, Klieman, etc. I am 100% just throwing **** out there, but I could see Trev doing the following:

Urban: Everyone thinks he won't do it. He may not want to do it, but that is a homerun hire and Urban would instantly turn it around. Not only is he one of the best recruiters of all time, he also would have a homerun staff and his knowledge X's and O's in the college game is elite.

Aranda: He is falling off in some capacity, but would probably have no issues with keeping Busch and Mickey. I think that is going to be a huge thing is how to keep those 2.

Mickey: Everyone knows the discussion here.

Off the Radar: Jeff Traylor, David Shaw or potentially someone else that no one is talking about. I may not agree, and it may not get the fanbase excited, but there are some other good coaches out there.
I am sure someone can show me examples where I am wrong, but don't most of those Texas coaches always want to go back to Texas? I am definitely not a fan of Shaw.
 

Wasker77

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Has the pedigree and might just need a change of scenery. Usually has some tough teams.
I think last Saturday's game was more indicative of how inept Notre Dame is this year under their new coach than how well Stanford played. Stanford was not exactly dynamic in that game.