Daniels

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is a space cadet. He never seems alert. So many stupid turnovers. We have to play him because we have nobody else, but you just feel like shaking him to get him to snap out of it.
 

RU MAN

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is a space cadet. He never seems alert. So many stupid turnovers. We have to play him because we have nobody else, but you just feel like shaking him to get him to snap out of it.
He needs to sit. He can go from lights out to mentally lights out. He drives me crazy.
 
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Pritz99

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Agree. Hey, Eddie, as soon as he does something stupid sit him down. If he won't learn, give someone else some experience.
 

JonathanAlan

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Forces shots , bad handle and can't shoot from outside....I doubt he'd play on any Power 5 team......
 

shields

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Jon Laurant needs to play major minutes and Daniels on bench. Sorry one of the dumbest players I have seen in RU uniform. been watching since 1975 also.
 

bac2therac

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you mean you guys don't appreciate his patent move of going to the hoop angled to the left up against 4 trees near the basket
 

RU-ROCS

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is a space cadet. He never seems alert. So many stupid turnovers. We have to play him because we have nobody else, but you just feel like shaking him to get him to snap out of it.

Agreed. I think Eddie finally sees this, as Daniels minutes are shrinking, as they should. He is also too selfish and drives the ball 1 on 3 too much which stalls the offense. Grier should take all of his minutes. The kid looks like a high IQ player.
 

Knights 1212

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I'm glad that Grier started and got 17 minutes tonight. Laurent needs to get more minutes and Daniels needs to sit. He makes way too many turnovers and rarely looks to pass the ball. He just loves to drive out of control to the basket or take jumpers. He won't be here next year. We need the younger guys to get more experience. We also need to run at least one play where Goode gets a chance at an open three. He rarely gets a shot when on the floor.
 

BigEastPhil

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For every good game Daniels has...he has 5 awful ones. Same ole....

Goode had 4 assists tonight....

Grier is a very mature / respectful / high IQ kid......hope to see him play more......had a terrific 2nd half
 

RU-ROCS

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For every good game Daniels has...he has 5 awful ones. Same ole....

Goode had 4 assists tonight....

Grier is a very mature / respectful / high IQ kid......hope to see him play more......had a terrific 2nd half

Also, Is it asking too much for Eddie to have the team set some high screens to free up Goode and Williams for some clean looks from 3?
 

rufeelinit

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A man of extremes and way too inconsistent. Love the high percentage turnaround fade away jump shots.
 

shields

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Grier needs to play more, seen enough of Daniels. Plays like his hair is on fire, just too out of control.
 

78CollegeAve

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So, is Daniels incapable of being coached ... or is the RU staff incapable of coaching a 5th-year senior?
 

NewJerseyHawk

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I think Daniels is a transitional up and down player that can get baskets that only Sanders can. He is not a half court player that you need to win at this level consistently, unless you have a very strong staff that highlights his abilities. Right now, the Eddie offense is very much a free flowing, see the play/make the play type of offense, but that feeds into Daniels seeing space and believing he can make a play happen....likely because he can perhaps make that play once in a while in practice.

It is why I wasn't exactly that broken up regarding Kwe Parker's decision to decommit, he was an explosive athlete, similar to Daniels, that has the capability for that highlight reel moment in transition, but would stall an offense in a half court set.....Parker and Daniels are similar style players that needed an overhaul on how to play actual basketball.

What is somewhat surprising is that Sanders is playing under control early in his career and has forced up very few shots and is looking to get others involved, while Daniels is at times looking to generate his own offense, outside of the offensive flow. Sanders eventually will transition into that role and although the game flow should have been much better with a 12 point lead last night, the game didn't get away from Sanders. He played under control and didn't settle for a jump shot and drove to the basket to get the potential "and-1" that was called an offensive foul. I was somewhat concerned that Daniels followed Myles Mack a little too much last year, when Myles looked for his own offense. Sanders isn't following Daniels lead in doing so in the early stages of his career, which is a good sign so far.

I'd like to be sitting at 5-2 right now, but this season is all about improving the basketball IQ and flow on how RU plays and improving the defense along the way. If that happens and we pick up a couple of pieces or a rumbling or two regarding a transfer into the program, RU is at least on the right path for next year, where Johnson replaces Daniels and fits better for how RU wants to play.
 

Greene Rice FIG

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I think we could be better in the short term if Sanders was asked to do more, but maybe better of in the long term if he plays like he is now. I am concerned he rarely goes to his left, if true, good defenders won't let him get away with that.
 
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OntheBanks

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Jon Laurant needs to play major minutes and Daniels on bench. Sorry one of the dumbest players I have seen in RU uniform. been watching since 1975 also.
You're probably right, but Laurent needs to be weaned in to the spot. Laurent had me screaming last night to 'give it up' as he was driving full court a few times. I thought that he'd dribble the ball off his foot or get stripped trying to go between 2 defenders. But, surprisingly, he
continued his drive to the basket and scored.
 
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RUAEPI

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Both Laurant and Daniels have the mentality to drive the ball to the rim. The problem is Daniels doesn't have a clue when in traffic where he is. Laurant isn't as fluid through traffic, but he definitely finishes better at the rim.
 

Greene Rice FIG

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Williams' other stuff isn't great either. I didn't know how much time was left? Come on!

WF 3 guards were 5-19 from the field..0-9 taking 2 pointers. they also turned the ball over 18X. Sanders and Williams must have had something to do with that.
 

wheezer

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Jun 3, 2001
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Jon Laurant needs to play major minutes and Daniels on bench. Sorry one of the dumbest players I have seen in RU uniform. been watching since 1975 also.

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Laurant had a few minutes where he looked like the best player on the team
 

jellyman_rivals307848

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I can live with missed shots...it's all the other stuff.

This.

Williams is a very good to better than very good defender. He rarely makes stupid passes. He GETS open shots. He is a very good rebounder.

He HAS to hit his open 3-pointers for this year's RU team to over-achieve (maybe too late with 2 possible wins off the table already - but a lot of games left). Williams is literally the only RU player likely to regularly get open 3 point shots (Goode may have a better 3-point shot, but looks like he has a slow trigger, and simply is much easier to cover than Williams).
 

RU-ROCS

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Love how you guys rip Daniels and Williams has been just as bad.

No comparison IMHO. Williams is a team player who plays good D and who has missed a bunch of open shots within the flow of the offense. Daniels plays hard, but is selfish, can't defend as well, makes bad decisions with the ball in his hands and totally thwarts any offensive flow with his 1 on 3 drives to the hoop which only sporadically result in a successful layup.
 

G- RUnit

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SMH. Daniels plays hard too, decent D and does not kill us with 1 for 10 shooting over and over and over. The idea that Williams is a team player...really? Williams' missed shots are just as painful as the Daniels' turnovers, granted Daniels is usually the only one can bring the ball up court against pressure. Both have hurt us equally as bad. We didn't lose a 12 point lead yesterday with Daniels on the court so gonna have to find a new scapegoat. Liked Daniels' shot at the end against St. John's a helluva lot better than Williams' "I forgot how much time was left" against Wake.
 
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shields

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Daniels threw two passes last year that hit the backboard, bb IQ is terrible.
 

78CollegeAve

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Regardless of last night's ending, this isn't close. Williams is a true soph and Daniels is in Year 5. That's a three year edge but Daniels has nothing to show for it.
 

ColonelRutgers

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Laurant had a few minutes where he looked like the best player on the team
He has looked totally out of control and hasn't passed the ball once that I can remember so far. Luckily some of his forces went in this time.
 

wheezer

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He has looked totally out of control and hasn't passed the ball once that I can remember so far. Luckily some of his forces went in this time.

he had about 3 or 4 rebounds and lay ins, one right after another....at that point he looked very good....as to the rest of his body of work, I dont know...this was the first game I have seen him play
 

linzalonic

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Bishop flashes defense at times. Williams gets in his own head when the shots don't fall, leading to more misses, but is a solid on-ball defender & our most consistent hustler. He does, however, lack Bishop's patented 'spin back into the defender(s) & lose the ball' move.
 

MadRU

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Jul 26, 2001
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Which player sees the court better, understands the flow of the game better, thinks team bettter?

I have the same answer for all three questions, Williams.
 

JonathanAlan

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Agreed. I think Eddie finally sees this, as Daniels minutes are shrinking, as they should. He is also too selfish and drives the ball 1 on 3 too much which stalls the offense. Grier should take all of his minutes. The kid looks like a high IQ player.
Agree on Grier. Smart player who plays within the team concept. Daniels is awful.....
 

jakeknight

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Daniels appears to like to try to make nearly impossible plays, rather than just embrace a team concept and share the ball.
 

linzalonic

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In transition, Daniels missed a WIDE OPEN Sanders on the wing, then drove into traffic & lost it. Please give Goode his minutes. He plays with his head up & protects the ball.
 

Greene Rice FIG

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SMH. Daniels plays hard too, decent D and does not kill us with 1 for 10 shooting over and over and over. The idea that Williams is a team player...really? Williams' missed shots are just as painful as the Daniels' turnovers, granted Daniels is usually the only one can bring the ball up court against pressure. Both have hurt us equally as bad. We didn't lose a 12 point lead yesterday with Daniels on the court so gonna have to find a new scapegoat. Liked Daniels' shot at the end against St. John's a helluva lot better than Williams' "I forgot how much time was left" against Wake.

Did you see him guard whitehead? Especially 1sr 10 minutes.

Mistake Eddie made...not give Williams rest when whitehead came out. Instead he took him out When whitehead came back
 

willisneverrana43

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There were positive posts about Daniels that were still being made even just days ago. And during the off season there were prediction that Daniels would "develop" and somehow become a completely different and better player. This is him and has been since he got here.