Dan Mullen is a average coach

Drebin

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just getting embarrassed tonight

Dan does a lot of things that endears him to his fan base, like talking trash about the rival or chewing a referees ***. He also does things that rile a fan base, like flirting with other jobs, looking unprepared in big games, and getting 50 hung on him in NY6 bowl games.

We will see how long it takes before the latter overtakes the former.
 

8dog

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What a ridiculously dumb statement. He is a fantastic coach. He gets scared in big games but the dude can flat run a program. He was not even trying tonight bc he had no weapons and had obviously agreed not to put Trask at too much risk
 

FlotownDawg

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Late season Mullen strikes again this year. Lost their last three games, blowout loss in the bowl. Reminds me a lot of our 2014 season, except we had a hapless Vanderbilt team in there to beat before we **** the bed in the Egg Bowl. I can only assume he’s got feelers out for NFL jobs. It’s the same thing every year.
 

hailstate19

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What a ridiculously dumb statement. He is a fantastic coach. He gets scared in big games but the dude can flat run a program. He was not even trying tonight bc he had no weapons and had obviously agreed not to put Trask at too much risk
Great coaches don’t get scared in big games
 

8dog

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You said he was an average coach. That’s incredibly dumb. You can debate whether he is great or not. But what you said is so insanely stupid. Name the coaches better than mullen that are not saban or dabo. Its not a long list.
 
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Russ Wheeler

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Wrong, he’s a great coach. But, to get to the next level, he will need to recruit better. Needs to quit playcalling too.

The fact that we see Danny’s faults is because he’s a good enough coach to get himself in that position, where his faults are on display.
 
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Let’s make a list of who don is not then decide whether he’s good or great.

He’s no —-
Saban
Dabo
Urban
Spurrier


He is in a group with—
Kirby
Coach O
Mack

He’s not great!
 

MSUDC11

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Good coach, and at times very good. I think at player development he is elite. As an all around coach I don’t think he’s elite though.

He was in a tough spot tonight after half his team opted out, and Oklahoma is very good. But Florida should never lose to anybody that badly.
 

8dog

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Mark Dantonio is a better coach than Saban is a phenomenal statement
 

Drebin

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Sabans not a great coach. Just a great recruiter.

Hell mark Dantonio is better than saban.

This is a pretty horrendous take.

Even if we want to suspend reality and make the absurd assumption that Saban isn't a great coach, you still have to give him credit for how he recruits and how he runs his program. That's part of being a head coach too.
 

paindonthurt_

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I’m making fun of another poster.

Saban is a phenomenal coach. Mark Dantonio is a good coach also but no where near saban.
 

FlotownDawg

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This might be the dumbest post ever on this board. And that’s saying something.

ETA: Glad you’re not serious. Gotta put the sarcastrics in there though.
 

bruiser.sixpack

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Dan Mullen is an 8-4, 9-3 coach. Don’t try to make him out better than he is. The fact that he got as much out of MSU as he has out of Florida should tell a lot about Dan Mullen. Has he EVER HAD Florida ranked #1? Nope. But he did have MSU ranked #1. Trask is no Dak Prescott, I don’t care who thinks otherwise.
 

nsvltndog

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The QB that played the last 5 minutes for UF looked like a freshman version of Dak. It will be interesting to watch his development if Dan stays at UF long term.
 

olblue.sixpack

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What a ridiculously dumb statement. He is a fantastic coach. He gets scared in big games but the dude can flat run a program. He was not even trying tonight bc he had no weapons and had obviously agreed not to put Trask at too much risk

Agree. The guy won 69 games in nine years. At Mississippi State. And left behind what was arguably a 10 win roster. There is nothing average about any of that.
 

BoomBoom.sixpack

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Dan Mullen is an 8-4, 9-3 coach. Don’t try to make him out better than he is. The fact that he got as much out of MSU as he has out of Florida should tell a lot about Dan Mullen. Has he EVER HAD Florida ranked #1? Nope. But he did have MSU ranked #1. Trask is no Dak Prescott, I don’t care who thinks otherwise.

^This. Dan runs a system that wins most games, but does not aim to win them all. He does not game plan ahead of time for key games. He does not leave plays in the bag to pull out for key games. He runs his system game after game exactly the same. That will give you a prepared team, it will train up your talent and maximize it, but the downside is it leaves him vulnerable in key games to teams and good coaches that now know exactly what to prepare for. He runs a great program, but is a poor game day head coach (clock management, etc). He's a good coach, above average for sure, but will never be great.
 

johnson86-1

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He's in the top 10% of current college coaches. Unfortunately for him he's not in the top 5%.

He’s in the top 5%. He’s really good, not great. After Saban, urban, and Dabo, he’s possibly the safest bet in football as far as he will be successful wherever he goes. His particular flaws result in a lower ceiling than some of the other coaches on his level but a higher floor.

He’s still young enough that he could become great if he learned to hire and delegate to account for his weaknesses. I don’t think he will do that because of his personality, but he is capable of it otherwise.
 

Ranchdawg

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That "average" coach took State to our only #1 ranking in our history. I would rate you a "below average" poster.
 

Ranchdawg

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Boosters made the three you mentioned. Give Mullen time with the Florida boosters.
 

msstate7

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They just took Bama to the end, and last night they got blew out by Oklahoma. Is Oklahoma that much better than Bama or does maybe not not having top 4 receivers (2 1st rounders) matter?
 
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You can't base his coaching on tonight's performance. He lost four receivers that accounted for over 30 TDs this season.

Let's see any coach without Bama's cache of 5 stars fix that in a couple of weeks against a top 10 team.

I don't care for how the guy left but giving him **** for last night is silly. He tried to run the ball more but it wasn't enough.
 

jethreauxdawg

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So there are 2 active coaches better than him

Let’s make a list of who don is not then decide whether he’s good or great.

He’s no —-
Saban
Dabo
Urban
Spurrier


He is in a group with—
Kirby
Coach O
Mack

He’s not great!

But he’s not great? Comparing him to O is a joke, right?
 

thatsbaseball

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Dan Mullen absolutely knows how to build a program but he doesn't know what to do with it when he gets it built.
 

Dawg1976

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He gets a pass on this game. They had no chance with all the key players out.
 

jethreauxdawg

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Fair enough

well O does have a ring knows what it takes to win and is not an arrogant prick

greatness is not awarded based on a curve - just results

He does have a ring. I think Mullen was a big part of the reason Florida won under Meyer. I think O’s ring was because of his assistants and catching lightning in a bottle with a freak transfer. We’ll see how O does over the next couple years. Players always improve under Mullen and he’s a pretty sure bet to improve your program. Can’t say that for many coaches.
 

paindonthurt_

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He won 10 games year one in Florida and 11 year 2.
Year 3 he won 8 with a 10 game sec schedule.

But yeah he’s a 9 win coach.
 
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He does have a ring. I think Mullen was a big part of the reason Florida won under Meyer. I think O’s ring was because of his assistants and catching lightning in a bottle with a freak transfer. We’ll see how O does over the next couple years. Players always improve under Mullen and he’s a pretty sure bet to improve your program. Can’t say that for many coaches.

agree - i would take him back in a heartbeat and still ***** about him after another big loss
 

Russ Wheeler

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^This. Dan runs a system that wins most games, but does not aim to win them all. He does not game plan ahead of time for key games. He does not leave plays in the bag to pull out for key games. He runs his system game after game exactly the same. That will give you a prepared team, it will train up your talent and maximize it, but the downside is it leaves him vulnerable in key games to teams and good coaches that now know exactly what to prepare for. He runs a great program, but is a poor game day head coach (clock management, etc). He's a good coach, above average for sure, but will never be great.
Saban does the exact same thing, except he's got better players.

Danny's achilles heel is and has always been recruiting. That's part of being a head coach.

Oh, and he needs to quit trying to be an OC on gameday as well, but that's clearly secondary to talent.
 

jethreauxdawg

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Oh, and he needs to quit trying to be an OC on gameday as well, but that's clearly secondary to talent.

Where does this thought come from? What’s wrong with his play calling? I hate Mullen as much or more than anyone and hope he stubs his little toe on furniture everyday, but some of the criticism of him is just not true.
The biggest flaw I can see of his is the way he manages a clock.
I think the number of players he put into the league while here says that he was OK at recruiting. His results at Florida will be even better...if those idiots give him time.
 

Russ Wheeler

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Where does this thought come from? What’s wrong with his play calling? I hate Mullen as much or more than anyone and hope he stubs his little toe on furniture everyday, but some of the criticism of him is just not true.
The biggest flaw I can see of his is the way he manages a clock.
I think the number of players he put into the league while here says that he was OK at recruiting. His results at Florida will be even better...if those idiots give him time.
His playcalling is awful. He CAN, however, come up with great gameplans. He's not particularly innovative, but very good. I think if he'd give this up to a dedicated OC/playcaller, he'd handle the gameday decisions much better.

As far as recruiting, sure he gets good players. But he can't close on those difference makers that could put him over the top. That's his lasting legacy.....he can't close on anything. Puts you in a great place but never seizes the opportunity.
 

olblue.sixpack

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Dan Mullen absolutely knows how to build a program but he doesn't know what to do with it when he gets it built.

He lead a Mississippi State football team to a #1 ranking in the very first College Football playoff poll halfway through his tenure. Again, he left what was arguably a 10 win roster to his replacement.

And I can’t emphasize enough that he did all of this at Mississippi State.

And he’s three for three at Florida in NY6 bowls.