Cyclones
- Thread starter Mrgrapple
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I thought things might get rocky after Mike Zadick was forced out, but Dresser has them wrestling well.
i think power might be a bit of an overstatement. I can see us scoring more bonus points than they score. Should be some good matchups, but really only seeing them have a realistic chance of winning two matches. Both at weights where we are putting either a backup (hate saying that about Kaden) or someone that is bumped up a weight to fill in.
125: Picc major dec. Alex Mackall
133: Fix dec Austin Gomez
141: Kaid dec Ian Parker
149: G def Jarrett Degen
157: Sheets dec Chase Straw
165: Shomers dec Logan Schumacher or Rogers fall Schumacher
174: Jojo dec Marcus Coleman
184: Jacobe dec Sam Colbray
197: Willie Miklus dec Geer
HWT: White major dec Gannon Gremmel
133: Fix dec Austin Gomez
141: Kaid dec Ian Parker
149: G def Jarrett Degen
157: Sheets dec Chase Straw
165: Shomers dec Logan Schumacher or Rogers fall Schumacher
174: Jojo dec Marcus Coleman
184: Jacobe dec Sam Colbray
197: Willie Miklus dec Geer
HWT: White major dec Gannon Gremmel
i will go with
125: Picc dec. Alex Mackall
133: Fix dec Austin Gomez
141: Ian Parker dec kaid
149: Boo or G dec Jarrett Degen
157: Sheets dec Chase Straw
165: Shomers dec Logan Schumacher or Rogers fall Schumacher
174: Jojo dec Marcus Coleman
184: Sam Colbray dec jacobe
197: Willie Miklus dec Geer
HWT: White major dec Gannon Gremmel
125: Picc dec. Alex Mackall
133: Fix dec Austin Gomez
141: Ian Parker dec kaid
149: Boo or G dec Jarrett Degen
157: Sheets dec Chase Straw
165: Shomers dec Logan Schumacher or Rogers fall Schumacher
174: Jojo dec Marcus Coleman
184: Sam Colbray dec jacobe
197: Willie Miklus dec Geer
HWT: White major dec Gannon Gremmel
Picc tech Mackall
Daton dec Gomez
Parker dec Kaid
Boo dec Degan
Sheets dec Straw
Schumacher dec Shomers
Joe dec Coleman
Colbray dec Jacobe
Miklus dec Geer
White dec Gremmel
Pokes 20-12
Daton dec Gomez
Parker dec Kaid
Boo dec Degan
Sheets dec Straw
Schumacher dec Shomers
Joe dec Coleman
Colbray dec Jacobe
Miklus dec Geer
White dec Gremmel
Pokes 20-12
If Parker beats Kaid and Boo is back I'd sure like to see G make the drop to 141 and be our guy. I'm not sure if the timing for seeding would work here but hate to see a guy that is wrestling as well as G get moved to the bench this late in the season.
I was curious with the guys weighing in below required weights for Princeton and Rutgers if we might see Shomers down to 157, Joe Smith at 165 , Jacobe Smith at 174, Geer at 184, and the best available wrestler at 197. I think this would get us more points at Nationals and give the wrestler that is most likely to place the best chance. Obviously I am not pulling the weight and do not know how these guys function. Also I have no idea how serious Chandler's injury is and who wrestles better at 174 between Jacobe and Joe.
Also it appears that Kaid has adjusted to 141 much better recently, but Ian Parker will be a great barometer for coach Smith on Kaid's adjustment. G has performed much better than many of us expected, but would he be able to do the same thing down at 141.
Also it appears that Kaid has adjusted to 141 much better recently, but Ian Parker will be a great barometer for coach Smith on Kaid's adjustment. G has performed much better than many of us expected, but would he be able to do the same thing down at 141.
I thought it may have been a function of him pulling more weight. I thought that he was a small 174 pounder. I have watched Jacobe and Geer struggle at their higher weights with AA or round of 12 guys. There is no perfect or easy solution for this team that has lots of talent bunched at the same weights.
G is a natural 141 this year and is wrestling up due to injury. He wouldn't have any problem getting down and maintaining 141 where I think he is a semi finalists.
Well if he is struggling going 7 minutes at 172lb (and I'd want to see weigh ins for all 4 duals to confirm that) then what would he be like at 165? And Joe looks like a full 174lber.
I would agree that Geer looks a little thin at 197 but there's no evidence that he (or Jacobe or G) would do better at the lower weight, don't believe any have beat at top 5/10 at the lower weight, yet they've all shown have the ability to wrestle with top guys at the higher weight.
G pinned #7 Lee last year and Karam who was #12 last year. Both were at 141. He wouldn't be pulling down to 141. That is his ideal weight class this year.
And he has beaten #6 (Finesilver from Duke) this year at 149. He hasn't had to make 141 since early November so we really have no idea. He could just as easily make the semis at 149 and the way he competed with Ashnault, who knows? If Boo gets healthy, an excellent wrestler is either going to have to sit or someone has to move to 157 (with no guarantee they can handle it). Maybe we should wait and see if Boo can get (and stay) healthy before we worry too much about it.
He pinned Lee at Scuffle after he was losing to Lee, he lost twice to a guy who didn't make AA. Who'd he beat in last year or current top 5? Personally I think McKenna might be just as tough, if not tougher, than Kolodzik, plus there's Yianni at 141. I think he is capable of beating Kolodiz (especially now that they wrestled once) not so sure about McKenna right now. But bigger issue is he has no rpi at 41 and even though you think that's his weight it's still another issue to spend the season adjusting your style and pace and then dropping 5% weight to wrestle a different pace.
Very true but I think there are more physical landmines along the way at 149 for him. Guys that just from a size standpoint who could catch him or give him problems.
I really hope Boo can get and stay healthy. I really like jos style and think he has a high ceiling if he can stay healthy but unfortunately the odds aren't great.
Seeding at 141 would be the major problem for him at this point.
I think you are misremembering G's very strong RS year... He pinned Lee when the score was tied 7-7 (he would have been leading 11-7 had he not gotten the fall).
His only losses last year where to top 5 guys (Eierman, Jack and Heil).
My take on the best weight class for each guy (in a vacuum) at this point in the season...
Daton - 125. Tough to make for a full season, but do-able down the stretch. At 133, he's hitting guys that were 138 in HS. Daton, Suriano & Micic are probably the only 133s that can even sniff 57 kg.
Kaid - 133. Strength seems to be the biggest issue.
Boo - 141. First, I think his shoulder would hold up better here. And while the SDSU injury was kinda flukey, he got horsed over (twice) in that match, the Sorenson match, & against the Cleveland St guy in freestyle. Still think about how good he looked against Bryce Meridith at 141.
G - 149. Seems to have more energy than when he was at 141. Think his physical style works better here while Boo's slickness plays better at 141.
Chandler - 165. Seems perfect for him. If he's cutting a lot, it's not hurting his gas tank.
Joe - 174. Don't think he can hold 165.
Jacobe - 174. He said last week that the 184s were bouncing him around on the mat when he goes for a pin.
Dakota - 184. Can't take advantage of his gas tank at 197 because the bigger guys wear him down (same reason Jonce would be better at 149 than 157).
Daton - 125. Tough to make for a full season, but do-able down the stretch. At 133, he's hitting guys that were 138 in HS. Daton, Suriano & Micic are probably the only 133s that can even sniff 57 kg.
Kaid - 133. Strength seems to be the biggest issue.
Boo - 141. First, I think his shoulder would hold up better here. And while the SDSU injury was kinda flukey, he got horsed over (twice) in that match, the Sorenson match, & against the Cleveland St guy in freestyle. Still think about how good he looked against Bryce Meridith at 141.
G - 149. Seems to have more energy than when he was at 141. Think his physical style works better here while Boo's slickness plays better at 141.
Chandler - 165. Seems perfect for him. If he's cutting a lot, it's not hurting his gas tank.
Joe - 174. Don't think he can hold 165.
Jacobe - 174. He said last week that the 184s were bouncing him around on the mat when he goes for a pin.
Dakota - 184. Can't take advantage of his gas tank at 197 because the bigger guys wear him down (same reason Jonce would be better at 149 than 157).
Well he has only lost to top class guys at the weight and most were competitive close losses as well. He had wins over Lee, Storr, Cortez and Karam which is pretty good considering the limited opportunities you get in a RS year.
I don't think there is really any argument at which weight class he is better suited for this particular year regardless of how well he has wrestled up at 149.
Jacobe was an AA on two bad knees last year at the NCAA tournament and was undefeated at 174 this year prior to moving to 184. He had a major decision against the Minnesota 174 pounder who wrestlestat has ranked as 14th.
Geer's True freshman year was pretty strong at 184 and he was undefeated and pretty dominant against lesser wrestlers prior to moving up to 197. Neither got the chance to wrestle a real strong contender at the lower weights, but they did not slip up on lessor wrestlers.
Sure Joe is better at 174, but I do not think the team is as good.
Good point on Jacobe. Unfortunately I dont think Joe at 165 (and dont think he could make it) would help anymore than at 74. Itd leave Roger's out and think beating Cenzo might be harder than beating Hall.
While Jacobe's match in the all star classic does not count, he was beaten by the Michigan wrestler and the match was not that close from what I recall.
Clones beat Ou tonight 25-6.
Only two wins were Jeffries and 157 Thomas both by dec. Mantanona was up 12-0 before losing 17-14. Demas dropped a 4-3 dec to Parker
Only two wins were Jeffries and 157 Thomas both by dec. Mantanona was up 12-0 before losing 17-14. Demas dropped a 4-3 dec to Parker