CS8 Week 9

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Finals
Rochester 31 SHG 28
Southeast 26 Eisenhower 18
Jacksonville 77 Lincoln 0
U High 52 Lanphier 14

Now all the CS8 qualifiers wait until between 8:19 and 8:34 tomorrow night to determine what class each will be in and the 4A, 5A, and possibly 6A brackets.

Soucie may be pulling an all nighter.

Per 1450 and Lincoln news, the Railers will have a new head coach in '26. It was a tough 1-8 year for Lincoln. According to the local story, Coach Silkowski will be moving out of state.
 
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All... I forgot I mentioned to Chocolate Terry at game 1 the group years ago went beserk on his wifes butter cake he brought to the tailgate. She made it again and sent one to our little soire. Hot damn I'm eating it now. Ratsy
 

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All..... The Soucie video last night (subject to possible change) has in Rd 1. Ratsy

4A -
#16 Jacksonville @ #1 Olney
#9 Cahokia @#8 QND
#10 SHG @ #7 Centralia
#14 Taylorville @ #3 Rochester

5A-
#16 Normal University @ #1 Washingon
#12 SHS @ #5 Providence
#14 MacArthur @ #3 Peoria

6A-
#16 Shepard @ #1 Chatham
 
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All.... If the Souce is correct on his 5A projections alll very tough draws for those CS8 teams. Ratsy
Macarthur upset Springfield Week 2 43-42 at Memorial Stadium. That win was huge for Mac, who started out 4-0 but ended up 5-4. That also denied Springfield a 6th win, which might've helped get them a little better draw.

Peoria beat Mac 62-14 in the 1st round of the playoffs in 2022 and have scored 76 and 80 points in games this season.
 
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All..... The Soucie video last night (subject to possible change) has in Rd 1. Ratsy

4A -
#16 Jacksonville @ #1 Olney
#9 Cahokia @#8 QND
#10 SHG @ #7 Centralia
#14 Taylorville @ #3 Rochester

5A-
#16 Normal University @ #1 Washingon
#12 SHS @ #5 Providence
#14 MacArthur @ #3 Peoria

6A-
#16 Shepard @ #1 Chatham
Should it occur, that's a winnable game for the Crimsons.

QND vs Cahokia could be a really interesting matchup.
 

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All.... Fwiw this is what Massey is showing if any of these games occur. Note that this is the projection before last nights results. Ratsy


Olney 40 Jacksonville 31 (59%)
Rochester 48 Taylorville 14 (93%)
Cahokia 31 QND 20 (71%)
SHG 48 Centralia 28 (77%)

Washington 42 Normal University 14 (94%)
Providence 48 SHS 14 (95%)
Peoria 49 MacArthur 21 (88%)

Chatham 44 Shepard 14 (93%)
 
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Ratsy, wasn't Centralia SHG's Week 0 scrimmage?
All.... Yes and I just happened to have their offensive stats. The qb by the way for the Orphans I believe is the coaches son.

QB Archie Goeway 119-203 1751 yards 27 td's 4 picks
RB Mike Brown 107-573 4 td'd (5.4)
RB Will Stanton 63-339 7 td's (5.4)
WO Kenny Bratton 42-757 14 td's (18.0) He is the one the defense will have to watch carefully.
WO Kruz Jackson 25-362 3'tds (14,5)
WO Zaidyn McClain 17-287 4 td's (16.9)
A well rounded offense.

On a separate note the Souce last night mentioned when talking about the Titans a slight chance that they could drop into 5A mentioning a couple of 4-4 teamsplaying today but he said at best that would be remote. If they do play Shepard the 8 versus 9 game is ESTL vs Plainfield East. (6-3) So if that is how it goes the Titans Flyers are 6-2 and already have more playoff points then PE. So win or lose against IMG today they would still host round one even with that 1-0 forfeit win. The following week at Chatham. Ratsy
 
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Chatham got a terrible bracket... EStL looms, depending on the outcome against IMG, on the 8/9 line or down a line at 4... Meaning a 2d rd game or a 3rd round game!
 
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Per 1450 and Lincoln news, the Railers will have a new head coach in '26. It was a tough 1-8 year for Lincoln. According to the local story, Coach Silkowski will be moving out of state.
For what it's worth... I'll give some minimal credit to the Lincoln football team for at least seeing it through. Plenty of examples of teams closing up shop bc of the same factors hurting Lincoln currently.

That said, I did find it odd last week... I found myself convinced that if the Railer basketball program was struggling, they'd still have butts in seats and fans cheering them on. The football program clearly doesn't get that type of love. I heard some disheartening things coming from the Lincoln faithful that day... things that led me to believe the conversation has already begun about "the future" (outside the CS8 football world... again).
 

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For what it's worth... I'll give some minimal credit to the Lincoln football team for at least seeing it through. Plenty of examples of teams closing up shop bc of the same factors hurting Lincoln currently.

That said, I did find it odd last week... I found myself convinced that if the Railer basketball program was struggling, they'd still have butts in seats and fans cheering them on. The football program clearly doesn't get that type of love. I heard some disheartening things coming from the Lincoln faithful that day... things that led me to believe the conversation has already begun about "the future" (outside the CS8 football world... again).
they brought a pretty good crowd last night to jville.
 
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For what it's worth... I'll give some minimal credit to the Lincoln football team for at least seeing it through. Plenty of examples of teams closing up shop bc of the same factors hurting Lincoln currently.

That said, I did find it odd last week... I found myself convinced that if the Railer basketball program was struggling, they'd still have butts in seats and fans cheering them on. The football program clearly doesn't get that type of love. I heard some disheartening things coming from the Lincoln faithful that day... things that led me to believe the conversation has already begun about "the future" (outside the CS8 football world... again).
I would rather Lincoln leave and stay out. Mt. Zion would be a wonderful addition
 
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they brought a pretty good crowd last night to jville.
Good! That's awesome news. I will admit I was hopeful it was just the early Saturday matinee that caused the issue. But the one's who did show up last Saturday were unfortunately all I got to see in person this season, and ever to this point. I'm not advocating for anyone's removal, btw. I should have made that clear. I was just pointing out that "we're a basketball town" holds up even harder in Lincoln (from the things I could see) than where I grew up in Quincy. As to say, it didn't feel like from the conversations I was having gave me any signs that there were any expectation of change even being remotely possible with the current culture in place. Could have been disgruntled football parents, could have been the season they were having, could have been a lot of things... I just found it odd. It just led me to believe the conversation had started after I heard a concession parent tell me they were starting to get concerned about safety... That's a sure sign that a wave of parents feeling the same is coming. And once that wave gets going, it's only a matter of time.

I'm glad, at least in the short term, that may have been a fluke because of odd scheduling due to the ref shortages or whatever. So thank you for that info A-Anon.

With all that said though... cigaros I know is an advocate for more competition. And from a competitive standpoint, Lincoln was worse than their "inner-city" counterparts this season. Another oddity from an otherwise very proud community.
 
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I would rather Lincoln leave and stay out. Mt. Zion would be a wonderful addition
You're not wrong, and a seismic (relative) move that would certainly be if it ever takes place. I'd even take Maroa-Forsyth or Williamsville. They wouldn't be last place in this league, that much I can say confidently.

My short list has the same name at the top as you though...

1. Mt. Zion for obvious reasons

2. Mahomet-Seymour. Also Apollo. Also quality. MTZ just fits more naturally given their location in Macon County as next door neighbors to Mac/Ike.

3. Williamsville or Maroa-Foryth - Billville more so for this one with numbers, quality... they've certainly got it under their current coaching staff. Maroa simply bc they'll continue to grow as a school and the quality of play is certainly there, I can personally attest for that.

4. Quincy - a proud founding member of the WB6, with Alleman's future up in the air, Rocky on the ropes, and the Geneseo/Sterling crown surely getting to wits end with the low-quality of play, I could see a world where QHS makes a good fit for the CS8. A lot would hinge on their ability to be a full or affiliate member... Basketball town, remember? lol But Glenwood gets a potential playoff opponent in the league and they at least bring fans, put out decent enough teams to go 5-4 at worst lately. Also gives us Jax/QHS, QHS/QND, and could open up the door for SHG to get into the setup they want with Rocehster/Glenwood every year (same division). The problem with QHS will always be that they likely never budge from where they are. Stubborn lot they remain.

I also, in return, have no clue where Lincoln goes. This is why the MTZ move makes so much sense. It can literally be a 1 for 1 swap with the Apollo. I know Mahomet might have a few words about it, but it does make sense.
 
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A one-for-one Lincoln/MTZ swap is the only viable option to keep the Apollo solvent...something that may only delay the inevitable. If MTZ chooses to leave the Apollo for the CS8 (a distinct possibility BTW) and Lincoln chooses to stay, that leaves 5 teams in the Apollo and likely no one (worthwhile to the conference) wanting to join. Lincoln, Taylorville and M/S would then be forced to decide between the CS8, the B12 or joining some lesser conference. Then what becomes of Mattoon, CharlieTown, and Effingham?

In reality, MTZ holds the keys to the destiny of the Apollo conference and everyone else is holding their collective breaths.
 
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For what it's worth... I'll give some minimal credit to the Lincoln football team for at least seeing it through. Plenty of examples of teams closing up shop bc of the same factors hurting Lincoln currently.

That said, I did find it odd last week... I found myself convinced that if the Railer basketball program was struggling, they'd still have butts in seats and fans cheering them on. The football program clearly doesn't get that type of love. I heard some disheartening things coming from the Lincoln faithful that day... things that led me to believe the conversation has already begun about "the future" (outside the CS8 football world... ag

For what it's worth... I'll give some minimal credit to the Lincoln football team for at least seeing it through. Plenty of examples of teams closing up shop bc of the same factors hurting Lincoln currently.

That said, I did find it odd last week... I found myself convinced that if the Railer basketball program was struggling, they'd still have butts in seats and fans cheering them on. The football program clearly doesn't get that type of love. I heard some disheartening things coming from the Lincoln faithful that day... things that led me to believe the conversation has already begun about "the future" (outside the CS8 football world... agai

For what it's worth... I'll give some minimal credit to the Lincoln football team for at least seeing it through. Plenty of examples of teams closing up shop bc of the same factors hurting Lincoln currently.

That said, I did find it odd last week... I found myself convinced that if the Railer basketball program was struggling, they'd still have butts in seats and fans cheering them on. The football program clearly doesn't get that type of love. I heard some disheartening things coming from the Lincoln faithful that day... things that led me to believe the conversation has already begun about "the future" (outside the CS8 football world... again).
The only place to go for Lincoln is independent to find any success... The Apollo would be a meat grinder for Lincoln... again. Mid Illini would be UGLY. The Illini Prairie would be worse... Big 12 may be an option, a bat-**** crazy option... The Western 6 but the travel would suck... Nothing like licking your wounds on a 2 hour bus ride back to Lincoln.

I think adding MtZ would be an awesome addition!
 

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4A -
#16 Jacksonville @ #1 Olney
#9 Cahokia @#8 QND
#10 SHG @ #7 Centralia
#14 Taylorville @ #3 Rochester

5A-
#16 Normal University @ #1 Washingon
#12 SHS @ #5 Providence
#14 MacArthur @ #3 Peoria

6A-
#16 Shepard @ #1 Chatham
updated bracket has Chatham vs. JCA
 
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You're not wrong, and a seismic (relative) move that would certainly be if it ever takes place. I'd even take Maroa-Forsyth or Williamsville. They wouldn't be last place in this league, that much I can say confidently.

My short list has the same name at the top as you though...

1. Mt. Zion for obvious reasons

2. Mahomet-Seymour. Also Apollo. Also quality. MTZ just fits more naturally given their location in Macon County as next door neighbors to Mac/Ike.

3. Williamsville or Maroa-Foryth - Billville more so for this one with numbers, quality... they've certainly got it under their current coaching staff. Maroa simply bc they'll continue to grow as a school and the quality of play is certainly there, I can personally attest for that.

4. Quincy - a proud founding member of the WB6, with Alleman's future up in the air, Rocky on the ropes, and the Geneseo/Sterling crown surely getting to wits end with the low-quality of play, I could see a world where QHS makes a good fit for the CS8. A lot would hinge on their ability to be a full or affiliate member... Basketball town, remember? lol But Glenwood gets a potential playoff opponent in the league and they at least bring fans, put out decent enough teams to go 5-4 at worst lately. Also gives us Jax/QHS, QHS/QND, and could open up the door for SHG to get into the setup they want with Rocehster/Glenwood every year (same division). The problem with QHS will always be that they likely never budge from where they are. Stubborn lot they remain.

I also, in return, have no clue where Lincoln goes. This is why the MTZ move makes so much sense. It can literally be a 1 for 1 swap with the Apollo. I know Mahomet might have a few words about it, but it does make sense.
Williamsville has like 500 enrollment.... Terrible fit for the CS8. Maroa.... They wouldn't do it ever! Josh J is too smart for that!

The CS8 has room to grow but who would be the chumps to want to jump in? Quincy to Rock Island is 2+ hr trip while Rochester is nearly 2 hrs! A trip to Decatur is 150 miles... 2+ hr trip.

There are plenty of schools that need to schedule games every year... Having 3 quality non-con games a year would be nice... Having 4 quality non-con's would be optimal!

The target schools to grab would be the Peoria schools... Having Peoria HS in basketball would be nice. Peoria ND and Richwoods would be a good pieces! Manual would be the gem for basketball!
 

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Williamsville has like 500 enrollment.... Terrible fit for the CS8. Maroa.... They wouldn't do it ever! Josh J is too smart for that!

The CS8 has room to grow but who would be the chumps to want to jump in? Quincy to Rock Island is 2+ hr trip while Rochester is nearly 2 hrs! A trip to Decatur is 150 miles... 2+ hr trip.

There are plenty of schools that need to schedule games every year... Having 3 quality non-con games a year would be nice... Having 4 quality non-con's would be optimal!

The target schools to grab would be the Peoria schools... Having Peoria HS in basketball would be nice. Peoria ND and Richwoods would be a good pieces! Manual would be the gem for basketball!

Treading old ground here perhaps - but I thought MtZ had been approached about joining the CS8 multiple times in the relatively recent past…and all times was a hard no.
 

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Another update now has SHG playing QND.
The math works. One playoff point more then Centralia. Looks like it will be a stop off at the Scoreboard for a bite to eat and a couple of soda pops. And another stop at the party house watching them cook 100 pounds of fish. I assume that will be a Friday game. Early forecast a high of 57 no rain. Good football weather! Ratsy
 
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All.... Massey showing 35-21 Hilltoppers (72%) Ratsy

tfw GIF
I can't see how Chatham wins this game...
 
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tfw GIF
I can't see how Chatha

tfw GIF
I can't see how Chatham wins this game...
All.... As a rule but not always history has shown the Hilltoppers playing northrn ball don't see hard passing elite offenses. When they do bad things can happen. Game plan is pretty easy. Throw often and always including five wide. Titans will score a lot of points as long as the line gives him time and do exactly that. Of course if the weather is crappy bad news for the Titans. Forecast for Friday anf Saturday mid 50's no rain. Ratsy
 

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As projected today:

4A South
#16 Jacksonville (5-4) vs #1 Olney Richland County (9-0)
#10 SHG (6-3) vs # 7 QND (7-2)
#3 Rochester (8-1) vs #14 Taylorville (5-4)

5A South
#16 U High (5-4) vs #1 Washington (8-1)
#12 Springfield (5-4) vs #5 Providence Catholic (6-3)
#14 MacArthur (5-4) vs #3 Peoria (7-2)

6A South
#1 Chatham (9-0) vs #16 Joliet Catholic (4-5)
 

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As projected today:

4A South
#16 Jacksonville (5-4) vs #1 Olney Richland County (9-0)
#10 SHG (6-3) vs # 7 QND (7-2)
#3 Rochester (8-1) vs #14 Taylorville (5-4)

5A South
#16 U High (5-4) vs #1 Washington (8-1)
#12 Springfield (5-4) vs #5 Providence Catholic (6-3)
#14 MacArthur (5-4) vs #3 Peoria (7-2)

6A South
#1 Chatham (9-0) vs #16 Joliet Catholic (4-5)
If everything goes "as expected", the Rockets and SHG would replay Friday night's thriller at SHG in the quarters.

A Waterloo win over MTZ and a Carterville win could mean the two would play at Rochester.
 
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As projected today:

4A South
#16 Jacksonville (5-4) vs #1 Olney Richland County (9-0)
#10 SHG (6-3) vs # 7 QND (7-2)
#3 Rochester (8-1) vs #14 Taylorville (5-4)

5A South
#16 U High (5-4) vs #1 Washington (8-1)
#12 Springfield (5-4) vs #5 Providence Catholic (6-3)
#14 MacArthur (5-4) vs #3 Peoria (7-2)

6A South
#1 Chatham (9-0) vs #16 Joliet Catholic (4-5)
Ugh... Washington drubs' UHigh... as will Providence drub's SHS... as will Peoria to DMac...

~Taylorville stayed with MtZ this season... Hmmmm
~Jacksonville should handle Olney who only beat Casey Westfield 28-27!
~JCA... I team I love to watch with their power running against the Titans... It will be bittersweet either way it goes but... damn, should the Titans play their game they should have a better than average chance. IF they let JCA run the clock it could be 35-14!
~SHG is the favorite but did the Raha's learn and improve from the first meeting. It will be up to the O/D line of QND!!!
 
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