Criminalize alcohol already...
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He probably ate hamburgers are some point in his life too, maybe even a pizza. Were they factors also?
I suspect that's going to be said about a lot of former politicians with the "R" next to their name in the future. Romney, McConnell, Murkowski, pretty much all the ones I listed with the f word in front of them that got changed to **** lol.
Why move when I can get it whenever I want? Even in the '90s it was easy to get, and no state had come close to legalizing it yet.
Weed is here and there's nothing you can do about it. Decriminalizing it is just to put a stop to worthless arrests that accomplish nothing. Do you think that if the police got lucky and found my weed and arrested me that I'd stop using it? The penalty is a slap on the wrist for crying out loud. And stomp your feet all you want, but good luck trying to elect politicians that want to crack down on it, at least at the state/fed level.
I'm surprised people who are afraid of weed don't just move to communes somewhere.
For someone who is getting it so easily, isnt addicted, and never getting punished for it you sure are up in arms about this. Calm down.
Heres a very comprehensive report from a group that has put them put every year since legalization. I had the opportunity to see them present this once. Very eye opening. Its comprehensive so read it all, but the cliff notes are provided in the first few pages of “executive summary”. Pretty alarming details regarding usage, deaths, and black market. Check it out unless you just dont want to argue with facts and want to keep with pot head talking points.
This small blip below has a few things, including the lie that tax revenue benefitsthe state. Everything in this can be found in the link above.
According to this, traffic violations and deaths are not only getting worse, but also more people are yousing more drugs in colorado….among other findings in this report from police. This is one of the sources the rocky mountain high group
Amazing what people dont know. Legalizing pot does not improve society, plain and simple, it gets worse.
Look at how many people are killed in car crashes every year. Cars kill. Therefore, cars should also be illegal, right?
Tax revenue doesn’t benefit the state? People will believe anything without question if the conclusion fits their narrative.
Out of respect for your well-written post, I'll try and read through the 63 pages. So far though what I'm seeing is current data being compared to 2013 data. Are they unable to compare to pre-MJ days? Like did they not test drivers for weed before it was legalized? I dunno. But I know that I'm willing to take the risks so that I can get the legal stuff versus the plant. But I'll read more and post again.
That says all you need to know about whether this paper was written from a biased perspective or not.
From the article:
"Marijuana tax revenue represent approximately 0.85% of Colorado’s FY 2019 budget."
Notice how the author is trying to minimize this? Saying "0.85%" makes it sound like peanuts, but if they listed the actual number (I googled and found the budget to be 32.5 Billion) saying $275 Million no longer sounds like peanuts.
I know I said I'd read the whole thing, but the bias is so f-ing obvious.
"Marijuana tax revenue represent approximately 0.85% of Colorado’s FY 2019 budget."
Notice how the author is trying to minimize this? Saying "0.85%" makes it sound like peanuts, but if they listed the actual number (I googled and found the budget to be 32.5 Billion) saying $275 Million no longer sounds like peanuts.
I know I said I'd read the whole thing, but the bias is so f-ing obvious.
As far as usage stats go, you can throw those out the window. There's no way to know how many people were lying about marijuana use when it was illegal. But common sense would tell you that people will be more honest and open about it if it's deemed "ok". Just like gay people, here in Mpls they are very open about it, but I bet not so much in Lincoln.
Did ya miss the part about how much more they spend because of the legality of it? Thats the point, tax revenue is offset by more expenses.
For someone who promised a well-written post on the merits of the reports and facts laid out, you sure didn’t come through. Theres a whole lot of bad in there in many different ways that you’re avoiding.
To pretend legalization is nothing but rainbows and butterflies out of a unicorns *** is disingenuous at best. At least I can admit the pro-legalization has some merit. I had an open mind about it (you likely won’t believe me, but that doesnt matter), but after seeing the affects through these reports and talking to my uncle and cousins who live in colorado (one of whom is a pothead), I’m firmly against it.
(I didnt bring up my family in my original post because it’s anecdotal, like the majority of your posts, and I won’t base my arguments on them.)
Anyway, there is a lot to consider and what bugs me the most is how careless everyone is with it. But no matter what, this is a state power. The federal govt does not and should not have the power to say its legal or not legal. We do not want to go down that slippery slope and need to protect state powers.
.85% is .85% no matter how you slice it, dude. If your budget is so high, it literally is peanuts. In other words, who cares if its 275 million, you arent really benefiting it.
So, if you can disregard the .85%, I get to disregard the 275 million, and taxes are no longer a valid argument for legalization.
How much do you realistically believe would be offset?
And FFS, does no one learn about how the govt handles taxes? Govt will NEVER decrease taxes if you open new revenue. They will simply find other ways to spend.
