Covid 6.0
- Thread starter kaz36_rivals189319
- Start date
- Status
I know this just straw man, hyperbole, and crazy analogies, but new hospitalizations fell again in New York.
At this rate its going to take forever for the hospitals to get full.
At this rate its going to take forever for the hospitals to get full.
My logic too. I don't love Trump by any means there are probably better option out there on both sides. If my choice is Trump or biden, without a 2nd thought Im going Trump. People were concerned about Trump have the Nuke codes. Biden is a few screws loose from being committed. The dude has a hard time remember who he is most days. This guy would be a disaster on epic levels.
Last edited:
Fauci and the "experts" have been wrong repeatedly. Fauci said in January and February that Coronavirus was not a major threat to the U.S. Their models have been wildly inaccurate in terms of hospitalization predictions. They were saying not to wear masks for weeks, now they are saying you should wear them.
I'm not saying I was right, because I wasn't. But the point is that nobody has been right about this, including the experts. This is a virus the likes of which nobody has seen in our lifetimes. If Trump had locked down the country in February, all of the big-city mayors would have called him a dictator and told him to shove it. The NYC mayor was still telling people to go out in mid-March.
This is none of those, very nice job!
Is it possible that shelter in place orders are helping with that?
I don’t recall Fauci ever making that statement, but I do recall Trump making that statement..
There are lots of "experts" who dont agree with what we're doing. I can find an expert who will say just about anything. Their motives arent pure, just like anyone else's. First, the experts lied about the masks. Then the experts lied us into quarantine with three words...flatten the curve. Now the expert leading this said two days ago we shouldn't reopen the country until there are effectively no new cases. Utter insanity.
February 17th: Fauci says the risk of coronavirus is minuscule, that influenza is the real threat, and that "there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to wear a mask".
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...inuscule-skip-mask-and-wash-hands/4787209002/
Last edited:
You are really going to freak out when you compare it how many are hospitalized for the common cold compared to the flu or the china virus.
Yet that'll mean the same thing. Nothing.
A bunch of Karens over reacting. Neighborhood know-it-alls who can't wait to speak with the manager.
Ridiculous.
https://www.omaha.com/money/citizen...cle_812d0ded-c07d-5f2c-82ad-19486befc58b.html
Ridiculous.
https://www.omaha.com/money/citizen...cle_812d0ded-c07d-5f2c-82ad-19486befc58b.html
Good news for the day. 2/3 of people hospitalized for coronavirus in New York have been discharged.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_Popular_Delusions_and_the_Madness_of_Crowds
The internet has made the world one big crowd.
LOL. It doesn't fit your narrative huh?
That charts shows weekly deaths for each week of the year classified as pneumonia deaths since 2013-2014. As you can see, that number is way below average. The data for 2020 is week 11 which would be the 2nd or 3rd week in March and the number of pneumonia deaths is down over 1,500. Week 9 and 10 look about 1,000 below average. That is 3,500 deaths below average for those three weeks. If those stats continue, up to today, 2 or 3 more weeks, I wonder if the number of pneumonia deaths below average might be right about at 8,000 number of COVID deaths that are reported right about now.
Slow down big fella. Was just asking why 2020 was so much lower than previous years.
Not sure what my narrative is so pretty sure you can't know either. I am somewhere between this is completely overblown to we are all gonna die.
I do agree the media is feeding hysteria. And for very obvious reasons. But there are some very smart people sharing concerns as well.
Granted. But as the media, and certainpoliticians keeo trying to own a narrative thats constantly shifting through data and fact, governots abdicating their resposibilities during a crisis, where it's understood in the constitution that they alone have the greatest power in their respective states, like controlling whether a drug, chloroquine, can even be used in their state etc, and accusing others for being irresponsible, and factually creating more opportunity to create more infection, does it really matter what they say at this point?
These are times for actions, not pointing fingers, or acting it's someone's else's responsibility,when the constitution tells us all those are simple lies amid a national emergency, it's our duty to not listen to them until they start taking their elected responsibility, or the media, to play their part as given also by the constitution.
Succinctly put.
One thing we all know is, businesses are going to have to reopen, folks are going to have to go to work.
And while the experts have ridden this roller coaster along with all of us, again, action now, get ahead of it later.
A doctor recommends,a elected leader decides. A governor has more power about the people in their state than any president should ever be allowed to, as it should be, but narratives becoming blame takes us away from needed actions, so those offering blame become as useful as stepping in dog dung.
If a pro snowboarder gets hurt snowboarding their doctor will tell them no more snowboarding.
Does the snowboarder listen? Or does he have to make a living?
Nothing will ever be 100% safe for 100% of the population. Time to weigh the consequences and get back on our feet.
Some people have been right. In January there were number of health officials who said Covid had pandemic possibilities. One epidemiologist said the cat had already been let out of the bag by January 30th...and many in the know doctors were calling it a pandemic 2 weeks before the WHO did. Top officials are characteristically slow with the public because of the hoarding and panic issues. The public if so stupid and ignorant because they spend their time on other things. The WHO knew that stating pandemic would freeze the world economy and had to decide when they should do that...considering that as bad as it will be in America...developing nations will starve. Fauci had to managed his words carefully...and said it is not a threat NOW...an educated person takes that as it could be a threat down the road. A person looking to criticize Fauci will find reason. I only blame Drumph for master-bating his base by calling it a hoax, for attacking the media, and attacking governors and placing blame on others. Go and read some books about leadership in World War II...great men like Eisenhower continually fought the desire to hide from blame...and took constant blame for any number of problems. Trump is a little man, that is obvious, and he attracts even smaller men. But worse leaders have accidently lead to good outcomes so we have to hope for the best.
Trump never called the virus a hoax and anyone accusing him of doing so is either intentionally lying or completely ignorant on what he said
Aren’t you glad Trump went against everyone and closed travel from China, 10 days after China/WHO admitted the virus could be spread from human to human. Jan 14 WHO stated in was transmitted from human to human. Biden yesterday actually finally agreed with the move, after calling Trump a xenophobe when he did it. 2 months and 3 days after Trump closed travel from China.
This is BS...many Italians die in their homes...there are small villages where the average mortality might 30 dead in a month and they are counting 160 dead...but only 35-40 are counted as covid because people died at home and they aren't wasting tests. Based on what we see...hopefully you aren't obese, diabetic, hypertensive, have COPD, over 60...if you go into intensive care and are considered BMI>30 you only have a 40 % chance to come out alive. A healthy nation with good hygiene is going to come through this unscathed...ie South Korea, Germany...this virus is going to expose our nation for what it is however.
Was having this conversation with my girlfriend last night. I think the time is drawing near where people are going to accept the risks and get back to living life. Most people are 2 paychecks away from being homeless, so staying home for months and not working just isn't an option...on top of that, the data, which is still coming out, is going to show this wasn't nearly as deadly as many wanted us to believe and most who did pass away, did so for several reasons...not just the China virus. So we'll eventually realize this isn't as bad as many thought, and we need to earn a paycheck...translation, we'll accept the risk and get on with life...and it will happen sooner rather than later. Just my opinion.
I've been fine with a number of things the President has done...I've also studied history enough to know that maneuvers that are done for one reason can turn out to be "good". What Trump did however goes against all recommendations from the CDC on how to contain a virus. Closing borders has historically been one of the worst ideas because it stops monitoring and vigilance. Once people are inside the border they are accepted. There are 50k chinese who are essential or wealthy and can easily find their way through a federal travel ban. If they receive a waiver they aren't quarantined, they aren't tested. That being said his ban on China seemed to limit the outbreaks due to China...he did however fail...two weeks later, to request quarantine for any person coming from Iran or Italy...most of the outbreaks in Texas, California, New York came initially from these two countries. A stopped clock is right twice a day they say.
(picture of the sky falling here) ...and I still can't tell what political party you're affiliated with. Could you keep posting and help clear that up, please?
So you are saying that the virus is way more contagious than we know...which means it is going to infect a massive amount of the population but only 1% die...that is still 3.3 million people !!!!!!!!! WTF. Or the virus isn't as contagious but killed 3%...which one is better. I say...lets cut down infections and get a damn vaccine.
I have had this thought cross my mind from the beginning, things just don't add up. My thought was is it worse than they are reporting? IE If an asteroid was ever headed towards earth we would never hear about it. At least not the full truth. Why? because it would cause a panic. Keep the "heard" calm before death.
However, IF this is all some elaborate hoax orchestrated by multiple world wide governments. What is the end game, what is their plan in doing something like this.
Ironically Biden is probably the only democrat left who could actually encourage some moderates to vote for him except he is so damn old. If he was 10 years younger he would be basically viewed as a Trump light...likes to mess with the ladies, is arrogant, undisciplined, is basically a 1960s moderate, which at times makes him look like he was a racist or bigot, but was just a sign of the times. He is a panderer like our president...but too old. I prefer Bernie... but the establishment can't stand any new ideas.
Sorta like asking someone, do you drive? We have to live, we take chances, some jobs are dangerous, folks want to get back to that.
Yes, it's about money, also pride, self worth, a yearning, so many reasons.
I honestly think some think we'd all like to be sitting on a couch in mommies basement.
- Status