"You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before."
Rahm Emanuel
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My fiance and I had it in January. Her antibody test came back yesterday. Positive, as well.
All 3 doctors in her oncology clinic (attached to a hospital) say, without question, everyone in that clinic has been exposed.
Also, they've been exposed recently. 2 weeks have now gone by since exposure to positive patient without reinfection.
This quarantine is led by those who are trained to mitigate risk at all cost (medical experts) and championed by those who either could care less/have no incentive to work (schools/academics) or have big legal liability should someone become infected (events/sports leagues).
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Didn't they literally just start doing this yesterday? You were able to get tested already?
It has likely been going through the country for months. Perhaps it's taken a while to find those vulnerable enough to kill?
The media hysteria is driving a lot of people to the hospital and testing who would've otherwise stayed home.
The 16K pneumonia deaths we've had so far (and do every year) in the USA likely would've all been classified coronavirus deaths if we'd been testing since the beginning of the year.
I didn't get tested, my fiance did. She's an oncology nurse working with very high risk patients.
I'm sure I wouldn't be able to get a test, but don't need to. We had the same sickness (fever, aches, sore throat, persistent cough) 2 weeks apart in Jan.
America has real wealth...agriculture, mineral wealth, technology, water, energy, and education, and the ability to move these things at will...we can also import these things at will because of our dominance of trade routes and our port access. Take Russia for example..they have some of these things but only have one warm water port that is blocked by Turkey...so every single decision Russia makes has to take into account relations with turkey because they can cut off trade...hence the ridiculous over land route to china that they are building. Europe relies on America and Russia for energy so they have to pander to one or both at the same time...and their economy suffers for it. China is surrounded by adversaries, although they have attempted to improve relations...they also can't feed themselves and can't produce goods for their own populace so they need Africa...so their trade routes move through oceans that we control because of naval supremacy.
Experienced this Early March. In Kansas.
"I had digestive issues 2 weeks ago. Shitting and vomiting on day 1 and subsequent severe fatigue/delirium, muscle weakness, headaches and random sore throat for 2 weeks. Feel back to normal now. Wonder if I had it."
"I had digestive issues 2 weeks ago. Shitting and vomiting on day 1 and subsequent severe fatigue/delirium, muscle weakness, headaches and random sore throat for 2 weeks. Feel back to normal now. Wonder if I had it."
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Colorado.. almost certainly contracted it traveling to/from Omaha for Christmas through DIA.
Then use your classification, and note what influences are in that theater. It's not just communist countries.
Maybe we can get some of the medical guys to weigh in here, but that means there are empty beds right?
Theres zero doubt some think the pres doesnt know anything, and is proved over and over again on this board.
Chloroquine. Great example. Closing our country to china, another great example that those who think he just is desperate, both times,he was ahead of the curve, and makes it as a president should act and do, not a desperate fool.
Besides, I asked you, you said, under his economy, are you a foreigner? This is our economy, and we all should care, unless you're a foreigner?
it likely means they are operating at ~ 380% capacity rather than 400%
a few less patients in the halls - and a provider trying to direct the care of 50 patients rather than 55 (normal is 15)
the idea of lessening the curve is to try to get to the point where discharges are greater than admits at 150% capacity rather than 400% capacity
also when they say hospital releases - a large portion of these are deaths
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/03/us/costa-luminosa-passengers-ordeal/index.html
Here is a perfect example of America at its greatest during this crisis.
Here is a perfect example of America at its greatest during this crisis.
You need to watch yesterdays white house pc.
They address this and other things in the supply chain. We have to honor current contracts, then it gets our attentions,where the governments aren't competing against themselves, whether state to state or fed vs state.
But everyone knew this was happe
I had brought up the hydroxychloroquine days before the president. This was fairly common knowledge for anybody with a basic knowledge of RNA virus replication. Zinc disrupts RNA replication in the cytoplasm...zinc doesn't build up in cells...so you need an ionophore to force zinc into the cell...I first heard about it in late February...so about 3 weeks before the president reported...and the Koreans were actively using it before the president reported. Also, closing the border to china is an ignorant thing to do...there are 50000 either wealthy or high skilled chinese workers that may need to come and go between china and america...they will receive waivers to enter the country and the president can't enforce this...it would have made much more sense to quarantine any person from a nation with community spread...Iran, China, Italy...that would have taken much coordination and organization, and the U.S is lacking in that area obviously. Look, the President is and has always been a figurehead...FDR didn't run the War...his job was to put competent people in charge and stay out of the way, but be aware enough to put on a show when the nations needs it. The president can also be a hammer in tough times when there is infighting...IE Germany first policy in World War II...or stopping American companies from producing nazi equipment. This president is ignorant to science, he has made this clear time and time again..that isn't his thing...there are consequences for electing a president who has active disdain for science and the scientific method. How big are the consequences...I don't know...hopefully we will think next time and not elect somebody because they have a real nice smile, or would be fun to have a beer with, or will fight china...we as americans, demand very little from our president in terms of real knowledge or education.
In Italy, those thousands of chinese were let right in, so, those thousands who went to new years were returning at over four thousand a month, we caught a portion of the first wave coming back, and both subsequent waves.
It doesn't matter who you are, it's where you're from,you get quaratined. So those of whom you
speak were quarantined. The president did indeed enforce this. I know on a personal level.
As far as any president being a figurehead just doesn't understand the constitution.
The evecutive branch is for expedition and granularity. Doesn't take much thought that if all these things had to be run through the house and then the senate, we'd still be welcoming in all flights, as every congressman would have their expert staff, same for the senate, everything had to be weighed amongst the staffs, each house and senate member then would weigh their position, then each go to their respective chamber for argument and presentation, then eventually a vote.
Figurehead my ***
The executive branch can expidite fast, rules are in place to make this quick response, meaning a action can be had by the president, but isn't permanent if the congress needs to vote, like war. A reactive action is not war, but a timely expidited response.
Another way, that julian rodriguez? The kid from cuba, rarely does congress act on one persons behalf, unless it was to prop up a commy government.
Not so with presidents, who often let people out of jails and prisons etc, or starts actions when confronted one on one, as in changing draconian actions and judgements against old drug laws, and ending long sentences.
This granularity is so needed, our founders knew this, and why its so.
Another way, that julian rodriguez? The kid from cuba, rarely does congress act on one persons behalf, unless it was to prop up a commy government.
Not so with presidents, who often let people out of jails and prisons etc, or starts actions when confronted one on one, as in changing draconian actions and judgements against old drug laws, and ending long sentences.
This granularity is so needed, our founders knew this, and why its so.
I have no issues with people pointing out Trumps flaws or how he has handled this. What I do have issues with is hypocrites. No Im not calling you a hypocrite. Just those who incessantly bash Trump but fail to see the overwhelming faults of their own party. This applies to Dems and Rep. There isn't a person in the Dem or Rep party that wouldn't have made mistakes during this. I would bet money there isn't one of them who would have us in any better position. To think otherwise is idiotic. This is something that NOBODY in a leadership position has ever had to deal with. If the US was the ONLY country seeing these type of infections and deaths then yes there would be grounds for bashing Trump. Before someone comes screaming at me, "but we have the most cases" . You my friend are an idiot and Im not going to waste my time trying to explain math and per capita infection rate to you.
The left has such an overwhelming hatred for 1 man that their whole life focus is to find negatives however small or minimal or even if none at all. They completely ignore the overwhelming issues/incompetence with their own party leadership. I know this comes off as a Republican rant. I consider myself an independent. I voted Obama in 08 and Trump in 16. I try not to be blinded by the party lines BS. I try to look at the good and the bad that both sides have. Blind hatred tends to skew reality.
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Nature doing nature
https://www.foxnews.com/science/coronavirus-pandemic-wild-animals-walking-through-streets
Hopefully some of our nature destitute city folk relish this, whether experiencing coons destroying their garbage cans, geese crapping on their sidewalks, to deer wandering down their streets.
https://www.foxnews.com/science/coronavirus-pandemic-wild-animals-walking-through-streets
Hopefully some of our nature destitute city folk relish this, whether experiencing coons destroying their garbage cans, geese crapping on their sidewalks, to deer wandering down their streets.
Slippery slope here
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/la-mayor-garcetti-residents-report-violators-stay-at-home-order
Actions the SS took and also thr kgb
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/la-mayor-garcetti-residents-report-violators-stay-at-home-order
Actions the SS took and also thr kgb
garcetti.. nobody softer on planet earth
not surprised in the least this came out of his mouth
Isn't it LA that theyre handing out citations only for any theft under a grand?
2 years ago he declared the homeless population his #1 initiative.. since it's grown 1,000-fold
what a hero
Nope, the discharged number is for those that got well and were discharged.
Wrong. The discharged number is for those that got well and were discharged. I used the term released.
You are one positive person, aren't ya?
I can can assure you with 1000% certainty that releases included deaths. I'm not talking in general terms.
When a patient dies you "release" them to the morgue or discharge them to the morgue
In Italy they are saying the the number infected as well as those who have died are much much higher than the official number. Simply because people are/were getting sick and dying so rapidly that it was impossible to test everyone before they died. I have a feeling that is going to be the case in many parts of the world as well as here in the US.
True, but deaths happen behind closed doors,or all kinds, and wuhan is but a small percentage, keep that in mind.
Were there more? Likely, was it all, not even close, were people dying of something else who did have wuhan only cited towards wuhan? Yes.
But the consistency of the knowns in a modern society is still consistent enough for modeling, however, in more remote or third world scenarios, numbers will be different.
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