Covid 6.0
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I can tell you what we hear from a good friend who is a PA working ICU at a major hospital in NYC; this gal went to hs and college in Lincoln, and is non-political. She reports that her hospital IS over-run with patients, there are not enough staff, there are not enough PPE, and the team has to make decisions on who gets the vents. I know her well enough to believe her assessment of the situation she is facing.
What this guy doesnt get, hes burying himself in front of a wiser and more informed audience than he is.
Dec? Really? Not sure what he knows, and who sold it to him, but the planet knows better, and chinas out spending millions,heading to billions to ignore this.
This guy ...never mind
Dec? Really? Not sure what he knows, and who sold it to him, but the planet knows better, and chinas out spending millions,heading to billions to ignore this.
This guy ...never mind
This is the same as standing at a farmhouse hit by a tornado and decrying the destruction. When the neighbors in the next section had no damage at all.
Ask if the gov has released those three thousand vents yet? Never heard whether they got put online.
Not that their are people capable to operate them properly.
It's the heralded Dr. Fauci throwing out some "might possible could be maybes" You can click on the link. I haven't posted any Rick Rolls today. Yet.
He is no politician, finites arent possible for a sound bite in the middle of all this. Sounds like the people asking all the questions need God, not a god with all the answers to their ten second soundbite hopefully answered questions.
I looked it up before I replied:No, it was the china ban, look it up.
The muslim ban? There was a seven country ban. Like awhile ago, when wuhan was known as just a area of china.
They'll twist anything
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/7/house-democrats-schedule-vote-on-bill-to-dismantle/
What pisses me off is that there are several on here who think everyone seems to have some sort of a political agenda. That people are either pushing a Trump agenda, or an anti-Trump agenda. Not everyone on here falls into one of those two categories. Right now, I dont give a crap about Trump....I dont give a crap about Biden or whoever wins the nomination. I just care about the lives affected...especially in my community. I realize that not everyone on here works in healthcare, has a spouse in healthcare etc. But please...give it a break. Not everything is about politics...not everyone has an agenda that is trying to undermine someone/something.
Well, if they can't twist for misunderstandings, then they'll just ignore, truth doesn't matter to them.
Sorry if I came off wrong to you, hope you got what I meant, not at you, with you.
Most of us are getting our stats from the Johns Hopkins coronavirus website - NY state has had 84,000 cases to date, Also, why do you think that they are building tent hospitals in Central Park and brought in the Navy mercy ship?
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/30/us/politics/coronavirus-comfort-hospital-ship-new-york.html
My question to you was a real question, hopefully you'll know when its political with me.
But, if you can, ask your friend if the gov found room for those ventilators, and staff to run them.
Not sure even if more vents show up, they can properly be used, as others from all over are heading to NY to help. Maybe, hopefully, front liners.
Is the situation in NYC different than in Lincoln? Of course. But that does not diminish what is going on in NYC.
We did have one person stirring things up, when this is real. We are past petty.
We will no longer care, and think of some as children.
Sorry for my part trying to let real things be real,but instead refute berserk things.
Lets get back to real, the rest, it simply doesn't matter, only if someone is mislead,otherwise, let them beserk to their hearts content.
We will no longer care, and think of some as children.
Sorry for my part trying to let real things be real,but instead refute berserk things.
Lets get back to real, the rest, it simply doesn't matter, only if someone is mislead,otherwise, let them beserk to their hearts content.
Either a berserker,or driven berserk by them
https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-derails-train-coronavirus-aid-ship-usns-mercy-feds-say
https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-derails-train-coronavirus-aid-ship-usns-mercy-feds-say
Getting more beds, creating triage tents, setting up temp hospitals in civic centers, getting more vents.....will not help unless enough staff is available. Until there is enough PPE .....frontline staff will continue to be in danger. Our friend gets one respirator for the month. ONE. In and out of contaminated rooms. All she can do is change gloves, and try to find a surgical mask to change out over the respirator with every patient.
As a nurse, I always felt safe taking care of highly contagious patients. I always had the PPE needed, and always followed protocols. Thats the reason we train. Too much BS going on. Daily we hear briefings there are plenty of PPE. But then we hear horror stories from the frontline. Someone is not telling the truth...or trying to spin something.
Here’s more encouraging news. Dr Stephen Smith, who’s an infectious disease specialist called Hydroxychloroquine a game changer and the beginning of the end for the pandemic.
https://techstartups.com/2020/04/01...ous-disease-specialist-dr-stephen-smith-says/
https://techstartups.com/2020/04/01...ous-disease-specialist-dr-stephen-smith-says/
Getting 50,000 a day from the pillow guy will likely go there. They werent on line just a few days ago.
Tell her to hang tough, helps from all over are coming in.
Tennessee had a few heading to NY, can't remember, but several states that are still early in.
Great news kaz! Keep your eyes on the prize!
From your link
Hydroxychloroquine is a game changer and ‘the beginning of the end coronavirus pandemic.”
Fauci is trying to be accountable to the public but cover Trumps *** when Trump gets things wrong from a scientific standpoint.
https://doctor.webmd.com/doctor/stephen-smith-a0b03094-d0ba-4f8c-b407-09c80ced1763-overview
Gettin bonafied folks.
Keep em off the vents
Gettin bonafied folks.
Keep em off the vents
Hope they can do some more studies. Some of us need to see that data! My family rarely share medical things they read in the paper anymore....they got tired of me asking about the data.....lol.
Evolution starts with mutations. We are staring at a virus that has evolved to infect humans. Has mutated to become more aggressive. I do get what you are saying...my virology teacher thought evolution worked all the way up to primates...but not humans. I think you proved my point. We are one of the last developed nations on earth, along with Iran, Saudi Arabia, maybe Israel who will sacrifice progress to extend our time with simple faith a little longer. You are an educated person who apparently thought this out and has some strange dissonance within, many people will not stand for the dissonance and will ignore the progress that comes with uncompromised science. I hear very little about God when confronted with a virus...the virus kills believers and non-believers based on predictable outcomes. It will kill pastor's and priests, and it has killed arrogant imans who drank holy water full of virus. But we all die and maybe they died knowing they will be in a better place than we...
I don't get it. Listen to Cuomo's press conference from today. They said that there has only been one transfer from one hospital to another and that it wasn't over capacity related. It seems to me that if these hospitals were so overrun, that they would be transferring patients all over the place in relation to the plan that they have set out. That has not happened yet. The question is, will it ever?
Yea, they will. But this guy is as legit as it gets. So, his findings, though small sample, push the odds so low, that its only anecdotal to the breaking point.
Folks, this indeed may be over.
He gives the drug for five days, even after two days on another group, results were improved,just obviously not like the five day full regimen.
Not one had to be intubated.
Understand, much of the mutation theory of the theory of evolution was created early on, and why we saw giant ants threatening mankind in those 50s movies, guess who exploited a little known and greatly misunderstood phenomenon?
Hollywood of course.
Clearly there is a disconnect between what government/ Hospital CEOs are saying......and what frontline workers are seeing/dealing with.
Have you followed the case of Dr. Ming Lin from Washington state? He was relieved of duties as an ER doctor ( 17 years, same place) because he was calling out the hospital for not doing more to provide PPE. The hospital told him to shut up...he didnt...and paid a price.
microevolution is observational and everyone accepts it.
macroevolution is a philosophical worldview.
Just avoiding intubation solves a lot of issues.
Have you guys read about the ventilation helmets that are being used in small samples that have led to less intubation? I need to find that article...
Patel led a first-of-its-kind study in 2016 that tested the Sea-Long helmet against an oxygen mask for a group of 83 intensive care patients suffering from acute respiratory distress. The researchers found that the helmet led to superior outcomes: Patients using them required ventilation 18.2 percent of the time, compared to 61.5 percent for the masks, and had a better 90-day survival rate, according to the study, published in the Journal of the American Medical Association.
So, the question that no one is asking, is that is it worth it? 7.8 billion people in the world. Total reported COVID-19 deaths to date 47,249. That percentage is infinitesimal. Was $2 trillion worth it? I know I'm going to come off as some insensitive ahole (who is probably going to get bad karma because my parents are high risk for death from CV), but look at the numbers. They don't add up. Let me list some numbers for you, just for the USA. Data from the CDC. Total annual deaths in the US 2,813,503.
- Heart disease: 647,457
- Cancer: 599,108
- Accidents (unintentional injuries): 169,936
- Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 160,201
- Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 146,383
- Alzheimer’s disease: 121,404
- Diabetes: 83,564
- Influenza and Pneumonia: 55,672
- Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome and nephrosis: 50,633
- Intentional self-harm (suicide): 47,173
So what part of that $$$ are you questioning? Sasse had a good point about this. The feds wanted to add $600 a WEEK to unemployment benefits....that's on top of what the state pays. Usually unemployment is about 50% of wages? So for a worker making $15 an hour= $2640 a month, half would be $1320. Plus $2400 feds. Now the monthly income on unemployment is $3720. How does that make sense,? I think that passed as part of the bill.
I'm questioning shutting down the USA/most of the western world. How did this turn into a $2 trillion problem in the US and more worldwide? This is not some "Super Bug".
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