Covid 6.0
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i do agree with that. My initial response was related to another poster quoting the President and being shot down for that.
We need to work together. Regardless, our government wont save us, we save us, unless you want them outside your door with guns, no thanks
It’s not about playing politics. Assuming we are all American citizens, he is our President. We have a right to hold him accountable for his performance. It’s my opinion that his performance in February will cost additional lives and suffering. That’s all I was saying.
To be clear, I absolutely want this pandemic to cause as little death and suffering as possible. If that benefits the President politically that is absolutely fine by me.
I bet he wishes he knew then what he knows now. Closing all flights was important.
Currently, we are hanging thin in NY, our worst and most underprepared city it seems.
Just heard a local announcement by various state leaders where the planning of extra portahospitals and beds are being readied according to population.
Its those things that will save lives, and it's local.
He definitely has done some prescient things. The travel restrictions from China certainly helped.
IMO he needs to stop with the spin and marketing and just be a manager. But I do get that marketing is his forte.
Take testing for instance. The POTUS is currently saying there is no problem with testing. Stating that he hasn’t heard a single issue about testing for weeks. Multiple Governors are adamantly saying otherwise as our healthcare professionals that are on the front line. Gov. Hogan (a Rep. Governor) just said the idea that testing is no longer an issue is a flat out lie.
I just wish the President would stop with the spin and just shoot straight with us. Here is where we are, here is where we are tying to get to and here is what we need to get there.
And this is the current dilemma, to open-up areas where there is no pandemic, I understand this. In areas where there is a pandemic, it can be bad, I just wish the Chinese had been straight with everybody from the get-go.
He may be also putting it all together. Meaning, he knows the current supplies/avalibility of tests, the numbers promised and artiving in increasing amounts, seeing new tests coming in for help, and putting that all together, complaints or not, its on schedule,improving, and projections will ultimately hit needs, but are still somewhat early, as these things take time.
Go back and read about car etc factories during ww2 turning out tanks planes munitions etc, and how woefully we started as our boys were dying, but at the end, no one was better.
'pleased to announce there will never be fun again as a measure to ensure everyone's safety. thank you for your cooperation.'
- doctors, scientists, researchers and pearl-clutching politicians everywhere
- doctors, scientists, researchers and pearl-clutching politicians everywhere
More berserkers sounding off
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ao...-that-gives-preferential-treatment-to-wealthy
Enough of this, time to get to work.
Ever worked next to someone who just complained all the time?
If you read the article, each player has their place, it's not too late to change this, it all could have been done quietly upon request.
It comes off like those holding mortgages will never pay,completely untrue, while renters will have to.
Renters should be allowed to make up rent just like those with mortgages, but again, this isn't something that can't be worked out.
Just heard the governor of utah is saying they're short on n95 masks, yet, he's talking projections, not that they're out,making it sound like they're out.
Each governor is making current and projected supplies, we need to understand that the flow is going to highest needs first. Utah is not top ten, and arent out. Let's hope no one goes without.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ao...-that-gives-preferential-treatment-to-wealthy
Enough of this, time to get to work.
Ever worked next to someone who just complained all the time?
If you read the article, each player has their place, it's not too late to change this, it all could have been done quietly upon request.
It comes off like those holding mortgages will never pay,completely untrue, while renters will have to.
Renters should be allowed to make up rent just like those with mortgages, but again, this isn't something that can't be worked out.
Just heard the governor of utah is saying they're short on n95 masks, yet, he's talking projections, not that they're out,making it sound like they're out.
Each governor is making current and projected supplies, we need to understand that the flow is going to highest needs first. Utah is not top ten, and arent out. Let's hope no one goes without.
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We are failures.
The more sensationalistic and fraudulent they are, the more eyeballs they get.
It's the government's fault? Your answer is more government?
Hey, at least you're consistent.
Whether something is legal or not, I choose whether to do those things, and, while some prefer to do things I do not, I don't begrudge them their right to do so.
When it somes to spring break as usual,in current times yes, before this year? I still wouldn't do it.
But, if I were their age I might have.
Passing moral judgements never works
My mother-in-law has hallmark symptoms of Covid19: high fever, chest pain, difficulty breathing, and extreme fatigue. She lives in an area with many confirmed cases. She can't get tested, though, because they're out of tests. WTF, I thought anyone who wanted a test was supposed to be able to get one.
They are specifically directing people NOT to contact the health department about testing (see flyer). Told to wait it out at home for 7 days, take acetaminophen, sleep upright if breathing while lying down is difficult, and to go to ER if breathing troubles worsen. People are on their own with this.
Maybe she should be in the hospital, regardless of whether it's COVID-19 or something else that's ailing her? How severe are her symptoms?
This happening in Illinois? That 800 number wont help her if she isn't You can call about this, if in Illinois, and if it's about this, that, they're paying someone to do.They are specifically directing people NOT to contact the health department about testing (see flyer). Told to wait it out at home for 7 days, take acetaminophen, sleep upright if breathing while lying down is difficult, and to go to ER if breathing troubles worsen. People are on their own with this.
I am saying to alert someone, as the caregiver can't possibly know if all attempts are used up.
If it was up to me she would be there getting checked out because she is high risk. But her doctor's office has advised her to self isolate at home. Her oxygen levels are below optimal (based on finger oximeter) but haven't reach the emergency threshold
Without direct cares, this is too up in the air. She should go in after she knows it's getting worse.
They can't stop her, she will come in with them unprepared.
Is someone there checking on her?
Be ready by the phone,if so.
yes, in Illinois. It is up to the evaluation and recommendation by healthcare provider on who gets tested. But there's no reason for her to go in because there's no available testing in the area anyway. It's ride it out at home until it becomes an emergency. My father-in-law is there, but he's surely next. My sister-in-law is nearby if something becomes more dire. good grief **** is a mess.
This can happen very fast, a quick downwards spiral. She needs someone there to watch her, someone to call 911 if necessary.
Prayers out to you and yours.
Damn, Prayers go out to you and your family...
People that down play this virus will also find out how serious this is when a family member of theirs ends up happing to them..
Ok, so clarification based on updated info to me. They’re not out of tests, they have limited capacity to process them. She does not meet criteria for testing as they are being very selective due to limited processing capacity.
Yea, every person wants one,some may 'create' symptoms, others, they have other ailments,while not much better, a test wouldnt help them either.
Hope all goes well.
Kinda comes with the territory. Even the mildest dog gets angry when kicked long enough. Maybe once the lame stream media starts being fair, honest, unbiased......
It would seem logical to me that they could test for influenza, strep or other possibilities. If one of those come up positive they could continue with applicable treatment and care. If they are negative, it is probably C19, in which case they could test for that or play the waiting game.
No surprise, high density population,exponential infections due to poor habits.
If those tests meet the tough criteria used til certain levels of ailments are reached, its a certaintee.
If those tests meet the tough criteria used til certain levels of ailments are reached, its a certaintee.
Just like theyre seperating common cares from wuhan, this can compromise both.
Bad time for anyoone with bad health or highly needed cares.
Not to mention their mayor and head of their health department told everyone just a couple weeks ago to go out and carry on their lives like normal.
Then, there's this
https://www.foxnews.com/media/yale-epidemiology-professor-nytimes-of-journalistic-malpractice
The center is obviously not holding, when the academy is accusing the media of lies.
Wish that crap would stop
Moving from lies to conspiacies, yet neither see it.
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Did you read his Twitter thread? He’s accusing the NYT of spending more time covering the gossip part of state vs. Federal government as opposed to asking the real tough questions like “what is the hang up with testing capacity? How do we get it fixed ASAP?”
and he’s right
Not a Trump defender, but China's numbers are completely fabricated and unusable for comparison.
That’s a misleading headline, the guy calling out the NYT goes on to say...
Do your job. We are facing one of the greatest challenges in American history, largely due to political failures of the current Administration. Dig. Find out what is happening, the roots of the failures. Name names. You have the resources of one of biggest papers in the US."
Nope, the people who watch and consume are at fault, but the CNN’s and Fox News came into the mainstream after the removal of the regulations.
I would agree with that but that doesn’t change the point I was trying to make which was that by 2/26 it was clear as day that the virus was not going to be contained and yet the Donald was still astonishingly dismissive of it.
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