Cornnation.com has a GREAT article
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They're ranked 8th and we went toe to toe with for 3 quarters. Carriker says we outplayed them for 2-1/2 qtrs. I think you are undervaluing Wisconsin. I don't see how that Wisconsin game changed anything in our season outllook. We EXPECTED to lose to Wisconsin but IMO we got better offensively against a very good D. IMO, our defense made steps but couldn't stand up to the pounding in that last quarter. Nobody in this league is going to run it like Wisconsin other than maybe OSU.
No. Some of us just aren't certain that firing Riley is in our football team or university's best interest. You may think you know that it is but there is no way to do a double blind study to determine which route historically was better. You do one or the other and hope for the best. We'll see. I'm tired of the turmoil that was set off when Frank was canned and there is no doubt that while Pelini won games there was turmoil.
It's hard to admit it ain't working and let go when you've invested so much into it.
I don't blame you. This is how I feel about my Cornhusker football team, which is why it's so hard to let it go with what we are currently seeing and it's downward spiral.
You're assuming that I've invested in Riley versus the University that my father graduated from, that I graduated from and that my children graduated from? Don't be a fool. I said it and I meant it. I'm not certain that firing Riley would be the best thing for MY university or it's football team. You're a fool if you think that firing Riley and hiring Frost would be without a doubt better than what we have. Hell we don't even know for sure that Frost would take the job IF it were offered to him. IF it happens, I'll support Frost or the new coach if not Frost, as long as they conduct themselves in a manner consistent with the position.
Please point out where I said Frost should be the new head coach.
Please point out where I said we should fire Riley now.
And it's obvious by your posting history you care more about the coach than the program.
After our pic 6 at the start of the third quarter how much time was left? Honest question. My memory is that it was at the start of the third. And wasn't it the very next possession where they drove it down our throats for 93 yards? How is that not then them dominating us for most of the third as well?? Or is my timeline and memory wrong??
Don't. It's pretty simple. You have very little if any pull in getting the powers that be to pull the trigger. I hear there is an opening running the Athletic Dept., give it a go.
So if he is retained you will either stomach it or go away. Either way it doesn't affect me.
Huh? I am a "fire Riley" lean. But it isn't self evident he should be fired. There ARE good arguments for retaining him
I'm not a Riley fan. I don't consider myself a Riley hater (not the man at least). I still think continuity is best for the program, BUT we have to win 7 games. It has to be a winning season.
I'll put my cards on the table, and I have ZERO inside info. I just don't see Frost coming here. His dad was on the football team. His mom coached the track team. Yet he ended up at Stanford. Why should I think that he would want back to NU? You could say money would get him here, but schools close to Florida have money too.
For my way of thinking, if you remove Frost from the equation, you're left with a bunch of D1 coaches with way less than glamorous results. Replace one less than glam coach with another less than glam coach and accomplish nothing.
Husker nation would collectively **** their respective pants if we hire an off-the-radar guy (coordinator or lower tier HC). But that's about the clearest path I see to become elite again, finding "the guy" before nationally renowned as great.
Frost seems to be the name everybody is pining for. You've said that our team was "in a downward spiral" and you've wrongly stated that I'm too invested in Riley to "let go". What the heck does that mean if it doesn't mean that you want Riley fired? So tell me exactly how my posting history says I care more about the coach than the program. IMO, firing coaches willy nilly because of short term results is harmful to our program and university. I've been a Husker fan since the early 60's (that's 1960s not 1860s) and I view the amount of time Riley has had as short term. The team has done some things that give me hope that Riley can get it done without the turmoil of changing coaches because IMO turmoil is in fact harmful to our football program. If you think I care more about the coach than the program you're just plain delusional.
You fail to answer my two questions above. How about you try just saying that I've never said either of those things, you know, the answer.
I guess it's a question of what matters more to a person, results or time.
Riley will finish out the year and if he proves he has the team going the right direction by actually staring to win games he deserves another year. If we continue down our current path he doesn't.
Your opinion ranks right with ours...."nothing". It's just a forum.
Huskers fans are so stupid that they continue to fill the stadium even though the product has been garbage since 2010, which means winning doesn't equate to more money...just filling the stadium and selling merch, and getting exposure nationally. Because of our insane loyalty the University can continue to pay bums to the program and it really doesn't make a difference. Let those newly added 10k seats go empty and it might get someones attention. Haven't gone to a game, or bought merch since 2011, and rarely watch games on TV...waiting for a product worth paying for...
Exactly, yet he thinks he has some sort of inside info that makes his opinion more valid than others.
I have no inside info. I am just saying if you don’t want to stomach it then don’t. No one is begging you to stick around.
How about 5 millon per year for starters? That's roughly how many dollars per year we would be paying people who no longer work for us IF we were to fire Riley. I'm sure you can write that check. I know we could do it but that isn't wise use of our money IF we don't have to do it.
That's all you got?
"We" aren't writing that check. I am sure there were boosters happy to pay Bo not to coach here and I am sure there are boosters happy to pay Riley and Eichorst not to work here.
The first response you have to why we should't hire a 65 year old coach that lost 7 of his last 12 games at a program that hired him to "win the games that mattered" is money. Telling.
Pennsy said that there are reasons that Riley should be retained. You said go ahead and name them. 5 million dollars extra in payout per year is a pretty good one I think.