By that definition, George Washington is a traitor.
Confederate War Monuments
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I really can't believe you didn't get more traction out of this.
gogetem says, "Too long, and riddled with inaccuracy to boot."
Don't just like (LOVE!) when someone tells you (or historians) that they are wrong, without supplying the 'who, what, why, where, when'? gogetem likely feels, "who cares about the real facts" when it is against my preconceived notions!
Don't just like (LOVE!) when someone tells you (or historians) that they are wrong, without supplying the 'who, what, why, where, when'? gogetem likely feels, "who cares about the real facts" when it is against my preconceived notions!
He would have been had the revolutionaries lost, but we aren't British so he was a god damned war hero and founding father of our nation.
The whole notion of allowing monuments for the south after they lost the Civil War is ridiculous. What if British loyalists ran around erecting King George III statues or Mexican-Americans threw up Santa Ana plaques everywhere? Would you be pissed if we were taking those down now?...Probably not, becuase the entire premise is absurd.
It really rustles my jimmies that you do not know how to use the quote feature.
And that is aside from your general point of view on life and Clemson sports.
Exactly! I don't understand why it is so hard to understand the meaning of the word "traitor". What the h*ll was treasonous about the south? They were doing awful sh*t like slavery, but it was LEGAL at that time, the north was a bunch of hypocrites because they had laws to disenfranchise blacks, just to a lesser degree.
The irony in all this is OP wants to keep participation trophies.
It really rustles my jimmies that you do not know how to use the quote feature.
And that is aside from your general point of view on life and Clemson sports.
You cannot think of a logical argument point for the topic, so you drive in the left lane, and not even being in England! What a puss! I hope this does not "rustle" your panties?
And that is aside from your general point of view on life and Clemson sports.
You cannot think of a logical argument point for the topic, so you drive in the left lane, and not even being in England! What a puss! I hope this does not "rustle" your panties?
We fought with England for independence from 1775-1781 and then again 1812-14 when the Royal Navy foolishly began to impress our sailors on the high seas.
i cant take you seriously until you learn how to use the basic features of this simple message boardTransference said: ↑
Political opinion and protests are one thing, but to wage war and only to lose is another. There should be no monuments to traitors.
By that definition, George Washington is a traitor.
Touche!!! It will be fun seeing a liberal try and work his way out of that corner!
The first of these four monuments being taken down is the Liberty Monument.
It has this inscription on it: "United States troops took over the state government and reinstated the usurpers but the national election of November 1876 recognized white supremacy in the South and gave us our state."
It has this inscription on it: "United States troops took over the state government and reinstated the usurpers but the national election of November 1876 recognized white supremacy in the South and gave us our state."
“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.” (Abraham Lincoln)
It should make a lot people sick inside seeing the heritage of those white supremacists being blatantly disregarded.
We fought in a Vietnam war where the majority of the us citizens didn't agree with it. Protesters threw blood on our soldiers, yet we honor those that lost their lives with monuments. We vanquished thousands of Indian s from their land and destroyed their civilization, and I certainly would not mind a monument to Geronimo and others that fought bravely to protect and preserve their way of life. I live in Charlotte and see a statue honoring the queen every flight I take. It doesn't bother me. I'm proud of it.
More importantly, Do you really believe that Robert E Lee is a traitor because he believed that his state had a legal right under the constitution to secede? There is no prohibition in the constitution for succession. The southern states simply did what they believed was their legal right. The northern states then took up arms against the south. How can you say these people are traitors? Yo need to review that term.
Interestingly, the British don't see Washington as a traitor as King George after the war thought that he had to be a special person when he didn't want a third term or stay on as a king.A bust of Washington is in St.Paul's Cathedral in London.Some traitor.
You are exactly right . Civil war in this case is a misnomer.
Confederates: Domestic terrorists. Insurgent punks who got their asses kicked up past their shoulder blades.
Every confederate monument and every confederate flag should be burned.
Your great great great grandpappy got his *** kicked by the glorious Union. The south will not rise again and confederate sympathizers are no better than ISIS.
Every confederate monument and every confederate flag should be burned.
Your great great great grandpappy got his *** kicked by the glorious Union. The south will not rise again and confederate sympathizers are no better than ISIS.
Now that is how you troll.
Decisions made based on nothing more than pure emotion are better left unmade, no matter whether they are left, center, or right leaning...
The grand daddy of participation trophies IYAM
No drones
Every other country in this hemisphere abolished slavery without a major war. But nooooo, we have to kill 600,000 people. Way to go 'merica
You, sir, are ignored.
Hey, dude go pound sand, if read the other post, these guys were fighting for the right to secede, which at that time was legal. They were not traitors.
Any mention of treason yet? If not, treason.
Oh, and they were just mad their candidate lost. Toughen up. Quit relying on the govt.
Oh, and they were just mad their candidate lost. Toughen up. Quit relying on the govt.
My favorite poster and it's not close
Dude knows what he's doing and rarely breaks character.
But people keep saying, "I know a guy who knows him and this is how he is".
Ok...
Get a load of this treasonous bastard. We should put you in Gitmo