would bill obrian leave bama if he is the guy before dec 5th?They’ve become as spoiled and delusional as we were ……
would bill obrian leave bama if he is the guy before dec 5th?They’ve become as spoiled and delusional as we were ……
O'brien has a much better resume. He coached a Penn State team with 15 transfers and restricted to 50 scholarships to back to back winning seasons, in the BIG. He left for the pros because his AD lied to him and was a dick. That program was saved and resurrected by him. They had a near death penalty that most thought would take 10 years to recover from.I'd rather have Campbell...
That was his tenure as GM and Head Coach. He turned them into a contender as just a coach. Not many men have been successful doing both. Look at Holmgren for example, and there have been others.Doubtful that would be any time soon. Houston still hasn't recovered from his tenure there.
Plus there is no buyout for him I imagineO'brien has a much better resume. He coached a Penn State team with 15 transfers and restricted to 50 scholarships to back to back winning seasons, in the BIG. He left for the pros because his AD lied to him and was a dick. That program was saved and resurrected by him. They had a near death penalty that most thought would take 10 years to recover from.
Then he took a losing NFL team and got to the playoffs several times. Now he is observing and learning about how Saban runs the best program in all of College Football. Cambell has a high floor but a lower ceiling. I am not crazy about O'brien's persona but he is a very good coach and could really turn things around in Lincoln. And I think he matches what Trev has stated he is looking for. I doubt the rumor is true, but I think he has to be a frontrunner at this point. I cannot imagine initial feelers were ignored as he wants another head coaching job. And some of the names on lists probably were not too interested about a move, eg Fickell, Aranda etc. JMO, but I would be very happy to have him.
Why worry about his staff and therefore his recruiting? He has a ton of connections and with a decent budget would hire a great staff. It is great to have a great recruiter as head coach, but having a great recruiting staff can be just as effective. He has a lot more connections than someone like Cambell in all likelihood just based on where he has been. When I see folks speculate on different candidates staff I wonder about where that judgement comes from.If he can recruit here as he did with the scholly reductions at PSU, that would be great. You can't look at his overall class ranking, he was hampered by the number he could bring in. Had the administration backed him as they promised, he would be playing for championships.
Players can always second guess their coaches decisions. Monday mornings...I know a bunch of former Texans players. They've all said he is a pretty good coach, but tends to choke under pressure. Deviates from everything he has done that made him successful when the chips are on the table. I think he could be a good head guy, I'm more worried about his recruiting and staff.
We aren't winning a NC in the next 5 yrs, no matter who's coaching.I hate to be a wet blanket but if this is true I can guarantee we will not win a national championship in the next 5 years let alone 2 or 3
- take it to the bank
If he does become our coach, I feel sorry for him ahead of time. He will be mercilessly lambasted by our fan base for any loss he incurs...
So what? Every decent coach gets offers and interest. He can make more at the college level and he left Penn St because the AD was a dick and lied to him.I'm not sure the NFL wont come knocking at BOB door. He had some decent success with the Texans until he took on the GM role as well. Some NFL teams may want to talk to him.
Correct. And Josh McDaniels was also their OC for some Super Bowls. Should we add him to the short list too after the Raiders are done with him?His one season as OC of the Patriots they went 13-3 in the regular season and made the Super Bowl. They were 2nd in the NFL in total yards and 3rd in scoring.
What a great fan! Just a peachy outlook. Maybe you should be a part of the team recruiting a new coach!If he does become our coach, I feel sorry for him ahead of time. He will be mercilessly lambasted by our fan base for any loss he incurs...
So that is the criteria for the next hire? That is one of the dumbest posts I have ever seen here, which is pretty high praise.I hate to be a wet blanket but if this is true I can guarantee we will not win a national championship in the next 5 years let alone 2 or 3
- take it to the bank
That wasn’t your argument though. Your argument was how bad he was with the Patriots, and headcard actually showed he good he was with the Patriots.Correct. And Josh McDaniels was also their OC for some Super Bowls. Should we add him to the short list too after the Raiders are done with him?
Yes, he had the good fortune of having the best QB in the history of the game as well as the best HC in the history of the game as did McDaniels. These guys are nothing special as is evidenced by their careers as Head Coaches.That wasn’t your argument though. Your argument was how bad he was with the Patriots, and headcard actually showed he good he was with the Patriots.
Saw this on another site.
Lol. You think we can win a national championship with a better hire with more pull with kids? I want to see if we can ever come close to winning a conference championship. With USC and UCLA joining our conference in 2024, we are in no position of dreaming that big, right now. This coaching hire has to be at least a two run homer and NIL has to be a Nebraska difference-maker. Your red Koolaid is heavily spiked and you have been watching DVD’s of those bygone championship years.I hate to be a wet blanket but if this is true I can guarantee we will not win a national championship in the next 5 years let alone 2 or 3
- take it to the bank
Lol. You think we can win a national championship with a better hire with more pull with kids? I want to see if we can ever come close to winning a conference championship. With USC and UCLA joining our conference in 2024, we are in no position of dreaming that big, right now. This coaching hire has to be at least a two run homer and NIL has to be a Nebraska difference-maker. Your red Koolaid is heavily spiked and you have been watching DVD’s of those bygone championship years.
I hate to be a wet blanket but if this is true I can guarantee we will not win a national championship in the next 5 years let alone 2 or 3
- take it to the bank
[THIS IS APPARENTLY VERY POOR SARCASM - no idiot would actually think this - but apparently some believe such idiots exist - thus the required disclaimer]
I hate to be a wet blanket but if this is true I can guarantee we will not win a national championship in the next 5 years let alone 2 or 3
- take it to the bank
No on Cambell he can't beat Iowa except this year with Iowa having the worst offense in the countryI'd rather have Campbell...
Thank you - wasn’t my intentionTrolled the entire thread
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He might be the best coach that we can realistically get.
Let’s win the division more times than not is mainly what we first need to strive for before we start thinking we need to win a conference championship who ever becomes head coach in the next 5 years..Thank you - wasn’t my intention
the sad thing is that if we don’t have a conf championship under our belt in 5 years with the new coach people will come out of the woodwork assuring us that had they chosen their preferred coach X Y or Z we would have been well on our way to a natty
If it was between Gundy or Kiffin or Tressell I would be quite pleased with the hire..Gundy
Yeah, this is not that big of a deal.O'brien has a much better resume. He coached a Penn State team with 15 transfers and restricted to 50 scholarships to back to back winning seasons, in the BIG. He left for the pros because his AD lied to him and was a dick. That program was saved and resurrected by him. They had a near death penalty that most thought would take 10 years to recover from.
Then he took a losing NFL team and got to the playoffs several times. Now he is observing and learning about how Saban runs the best program in all of College Football. Cambell has a high floor but a lower ceiling. I am not crazy about O'brien's persona but he is a very good coach and could really turn things around in Lincoln. And I think he matches what Trev has stated he is looking for. I doubt the rumor is true, but I think he has to be a frontrunner at this point. I cannot imagine initial feelers were ignored as he wants another head coaching job. And some of the names on lists probably were not too interested about a move, eg Fickell, Aranda etc. JMO, but I would be very happy to have him.
Unfortunately, I don't think you have to worry about that scenario.if Trev has made the decision - he has to hope MJ doesn't go 3-2 or god forbid 4-1 down the stretch or he has a major PR disaster on his hands
Tressel?? He'll be 70 in December and he hasn't coached since 2010.If it was between Gundy or Kiffin or Tressell I would be quite pleased with the hire..
If it was between Gundy or Kiffin or Tressell I would be quite pleased with the hire..
I think Tressell has been out of the game a bit too long, but I really like Kiffin.If it was between Gundy or Kiffin or Tressell I would be quite pleased with the hire..
Tressel also 69 years old and announced his retirement from Bo Pelini State, effective 2023.I think Tressell has been out of the game a bit too long, but I really like Kiffin.
I posted this in a couple of other threads so I apologize for the redundancyI think Tressell has been out of the game a bit too long, but I really like Kiffin.
Saw this on another site.
Or - Chris Peterson80%? A name that has been out there, but not talked about much? This checks all the boxes; can’t wait to welcome Coach Kiffin to Lincoln.
I posted this in a couple of other threads so I apologize for the redundancy
in reading, Mississippi law prohibits any public employee from signing a contract of more than 4 years - Kiffin is paid 7.5 million per year which means he has 30 million guaranteed. An 8 year, 8 million per year contract more than doubles his current contract value. From a pure business standpoint Lane would have to seriously consider that kind of offer
No … if it is standard it would be the value of the contract .. if he leaves before the auto renewal it would be 22.5 million or after 30 millionAny idea what his buyout is?
The difference is O’Brien is VERY gettable and no buyout. He makes way too much sense and checks too many boxes. Has already succeeded in the B1G.O'brien has a much better resume. He coached a Penn State team with 15 transfers and restricted to 50 scholarships to back to back winning seasons, in the BIG. He left for the pros because his AD lied to him and was a dick. That program was saved and resurrected by him. They had a near death penalty that most thought would take 10 years to recover from.
Then he took a losing NFL team and got to the playoffs several times. Now he is observing and learning about how Saban runs the best program in all of College Football. Cambell has a high floor but a lower ceiling. I am not crazy about O'brien's persona but he is a very good coach and could really turn things around in Lincoln. And I think he matches what Trev has stated he is looking for. I doubt the rumor is true, but I think he has to be a frontrunner at this point. I cannot imagine initial feelers were ignored as he wants another head coaching job. And some of the names on lists probably were not too interested about a move, eg Fickell, Aranda etc. JMO, but I would be very happy to have him.