Coaching or Talent?
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Silly poll: it's useless without an option about not enough people haranguing posters to contribute their life savings to NIL.
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Look what Coaching is doing for the following { and less or similar NIL than us} : Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Utah, UCF, Illinois, etc
We have the worst NIL in P4, but don't let that fact get in your way.
a google search found this what asked if Rutgers NIL spending is the worst of all P-4 programs
>Yes, based on reported estimates from late 2024, Rutgers football has been identified as having the
lowest NIL spending among all Big Ten programs and is generally considered to be at or near the bottom of the Power 4 conferences in Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) funding.
Specific estimates from December 2024 placed Rutgers' total NIL spending for the 2024 period at approximately $3.6 million, which was significantly lower than the top spender in the Big Ten (Ohio State at over $20 million) and the bottom spender in the SEC (Mississippi State at over $6.4 million).
This low NIL funding has been well-documented as a significant challenge for the program, particularly in the competitive landscape of the transfer portal where schools with robust NIL budgets can offer guaranteed money to attract players. Reports from October 2025 indicate that the Rutgers athletic department is actively working to improve its NIL situation to better compete with its Big Ten peers<
I believe Richie confirmed you guys are wrong and NIL is roughly lower mid in BIG, definitely not worst in p4 regardless, we're losing this year because of coaching, not NIL
We were outclassed against Oregon, no question.
Washington has better talent depth, but we could have played them closer on our best night with some improved performances and coaching.
At no point during the games against Iowa, Minnesota or Illinois did we look overmatched from a talent perspective. Better coaching wins all three of those games in my opinion.
Washington has better talent depth, but we could have played them closer on our best night with some improved performances and coaching.
At no point during the games against Iowa, Minnesota or Illinois did we look overmatched from a talent perspective. Better coaching wins all three of those games in my opinion.
But they can give you an idea of what's going on and no one will ever accuse Rutgers of being a top spender on players since they started playing major college football at the end of the Frank Burns era.
So I'll believe Rutgers :
"has been identified as having the
lowest NIL spending among all Big Ten programs and is generally considered to be at or near the bottom of the Power 4 conferences in Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) funding."
You can believe what you want and maybe find proof Rutgers is one of the top spenders when it comes to dishing out NIL money. Or just prove what I believe really isn't the case
Talent is the reason we lose most games. Coaching is the reason games aren’t quite competitive
Wrong
Our 2024 & 2025 NIL is higher than many programs. Don’t let facts get in your way. Doofus
https://www.on3.com/rivals/rankings/team-breakdown/football/2024/
It's talent. As in our coaches lack the talent to coach effectively, creatively, and adaptively.
our NIL is fine, not super, but adequate vs our peers. We have the money for a buyout of Greg per Richie, our resources, infrastructure, etc etc are all more than adequate to have a winning program
the issue is Greg sucks
Bingo.
Some clueless buffoon Poster said we have the lowest NIL in all P4. Wrong
We are funded equally with our mid level peers. The problem is the HC is not a B1G caliber Coach. The sooner he is jettisoned the better the Program will become.
here is the kicker,
we could grab a HS coach and he'd do just as well. I mean, we are battling to stay out of last place......in year 6 with a defense that is worse than any Ash year. in addition, Greg inherited a program with more talent than he'll leave for the next guy
surreal to think of things like this but it's accurate
This. Talent hasn't been the issue in the losses outside of Oregon. RU actually beat Washington and Minnesota last year, and would have beaten Illinois without the "ice the kicker" bs. The defense has been abysmal this season, and it's a coaching problem. Even average coaching beats Iowa and Minnesota. With average coaching, the Illinois and Washington games are at least competitive.
Iowa is a great example of this. They are a 6.5 point underdog against Oregon with nowhere near the talent. Their coach has a system and they recruit toward it. They get great offensive line talent for sure and always have strong defense and special teams.
our resources must be tied up in BTC. Everyone in the B1G is outspending us. Why do you think it’s more than adequate to have a winning program?
That link is ridiculous. They have Rutgers listed with higher NIL than Indiana, and we all know that's far from reality.
Nice article in the Athletic on tweaks they made after letting Ferentz’ son go and bringing Tim Lester on board.
From the article:
From 2021 through 2023, Iowa failed to surpass 3.4 yards per carry despite winning Big Ten West Division titles in two out of three years. In 2022, Iowa ranked 127th nationally at 2.9 yards per carry.
The zone-blocking scheme, implemented by Kirk Ferentz in 1981 as Iowa’s 25-year-old offensive line coach and later refined when he became head coach in 1999, appeared predictable and stale.
Two years later, the mid-zone run play has not only become an effective weapon in Iowa’s offensive attack but also set up its other zone running plays to work in concert.
In 2024, the Hawkeyes averaged 5.12 yards per carry, the second-most by a Ferentz-coached team, as running back Kaleb Johnson earned consensus first-team All-America honors. This year, Iowa’s 31.3 points per game is its second-highest average since 2002, even though the team has thrown only five touchdown passes through eight games.
No. 20 Iowa (6-2, 4-1 Big Ten) is averaging 185 rushing yards per game and 4.84 yards per carry,
the numbers have been posted here many times. From NIL, to athletics expenditures, to facilities, etc etc etc....you guys are looking for excuses in all the wrong places
we suck because our head coach sucks, not due to lack of resources, facilities, or interest
for RU, our failures are 80% coaching, 20% players...when you consistently see opponents wide f-ing open in end zone, and players not knowing where to be many times this season, and it's week 10, it's on the coaches--the players can lack talent, but should know where should be regardless of talent...also coaches not able to put players in positions to take advantage of their skills...not to mention playing calling, offense can gain empty calories between the 20s but can't score consistently enough...
It will be interesting to see if Oregon stomps Iowa the way they stomped RU.
Where have you been for the last 40 years? Did you imagine that with our history of alumni giving that suddenly tens of thousands of previously disengaged ppl who wouldn't give to the R fund or the Big Ten build or the endowment started to secretly donate to NIL? We'd have a better chance of Greg finding a magic money fountain in a broom closet.
That is per player for new Recruits for 2024 & 2025 ( you can toggle that year}. It’s not for Transfers. Fact is we are not on the bottom of P4 for NIL …not even close. Many winning with much less. Our Coaching puts us a huge disadvantage.
Fact is we are last in the B1G. It’s well documented that RU ranks last in alumni donations.
Schools can pay players now so it’s not just 3rd party NIL or collectives, which will likely shrink somewhat in the future with 3rd party deals needing to be “legitimate.” Mind you some will paint outside the lines as always but players risk eligibility if discovered.
Even the billionaire spearheading the TT frontloaded spending spree this year pretty much said schools paying players will be the biggest thing going forward and 3rd party “legitimate” NIL isn’t that much for most players.
If you can find the money in the AD budget you can pay up to the cap. Being in the B10 or SEC should help facilitate that because they receive 10s of millions more compared to other conferences.
From 2023 to 2024 the football operating budget went from 49M to 64 million. That was the 6th highest in the B10 and 12th highest in the country. Don’t know what it is this year.